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Dream wrote:I don't feel like saying anything particular. it was an ok movie, the production values were good and in particularities it was pretty good (should be, with a budget like that), but i fear it revitalized my distaste for Hollywood. We simply want very different things out of film, and i feel they are very thoughtless as to the artistic/spiritual aspect. I just found it an over-produced, soulless movie.
I watched the first 2 parts. Disagree with a lot of what was said, but he did nail a few things, notably how cluttered the battles are in the prequels and how underdeveloped the characters are. That battle on Geonosis in the second film just has waaaay too much going on at once, but I did like the big droid army battle in The Phantom Menace.
FreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:I dislike the term "Mary Sue." Like, a lot.
Look, I understand that some people think that "X" female character is written poorly, and in the case of Rey in The Force Awakens, I would actually agree with you. But the term "Mary Sue" is literally meaningless when it's not used in reference to its original meaning. I look it up on TV Tropes, and it comes with 5 different questions challenging the label "Mary Sue," 14 different subcategories for the term, and 13 different applications for the term (that don't include the applications for its 14 different sub categories of the term). At this point the term "Mary Sue" means so many things that it ends up meaning nothing outside of the character simply being poorly written in some way. (In which case, it would be better to tell me that you think the character is poorly written!) As a storyteller myself, if people told me I had a "Mary Sue" character in my story I wouldn't even know what they're referring to. It's a meaningless label that confuses communication rather than clarifies communication.
As for Rey herself,SPOILER: ShowI do feel that the ending to The Force Awakens is rushed. But does anyone know why? Is Rey the poorly written character because she mysteriously overcomes the villain? If that's the case, wouldn't simply knowing about her mysterious backstory answer that mystery behind her abilities? If it does, well, it's still poor writing, but it's no longer what was considered the "Mary Sue," now is it? On the other hand, it could be that it was Kylo Ren who was poorly written, and not Rey. After all, it seems rather anti-climatic that a villain who could stop blaster beams in mid-air get bested by some noob. So the fault in character development could lie with Kylo, and not with Rey. (See what I mean by the "Mary Sue" being a meaningless title at the end of the day?)
That's all I have to say about that.
Tarnsman wrote:SPOILER: ShowMary/Gary Stu get thrown around a lot but generally it's not just being poorly written, it's being poorly written in a way that the character can solve all challenges presented to them with basically no effort akin to if they were a fanfiction wish fulfillment insert character. Rey fits this. If you have to explain your character getting force powers with "they watched another character do it so now they can" (The equivalent of Aaron Carter being as good at basketball as Shaq because he watched him do a dunk once) then you're in full Mary/Gary Stu territory. Every single obstacle Rey encounters is easily dispatched by her. In A New Hope Luke required Obi Wan to save him, R2D2 to save him, and Han to save him. Rey on the other hand just is instantly good at everything she touches and then beats the bad guy.
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