Scifi Channel expands its crappy anime lineup

[V]

Scifi Channel is expanding its crappy anime lineup - "Ani-Monday" on Monday nights - to Tuesdays as well.

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=20708

On the one hand, its at worst neutral and at beast, at least a step in the right direction for anime.

However, they're still using the cruddy Manga Entertainment library;

their plans are to air the Read or Die OVA, the Appleseed OVA, and Kai Doh Maru OVA, and the "X" movie. 11pm to 1:00 AM. RoD OVA has fun cooky charm but its just an OVA; it's only so long (I'm happy it resulted in a TV series). The Appleseed OVA was a cliche waste of animation which I regret watching; a godawful hybridization of CGI and 2D animation which you quickly lose interest in. Also, its short. "Kai Doh Maru" is a historical drama about civil war in Kyoto in Heian times; looks like your standard "princess dresses as boy to avoid death when her noble family is attacked, then her female cousin falls in love with her assumed boy-persona, then she runs away again and gets trained as a warrior by another samurai"...again, KDM only has a 45 minute run time. The "X" movie is again, just a movie.

Long story short I think they've got four weeks worth of material for "Ani-Tuesdays" and then nothing again; why not just focus on running material on Ani-Monday?

(ugh) it all stinks anyway; the Manga Library they're using is old stuff from well over 10 years ago, as opposed to newer stuff.

[THE Hal E. Burton 9000]

I'm sure Scifi (whose parent company Liberty Media PWNS Mangle TOO don't-ya-know) would LOVE to "transfer"(/steal) some of the licenses from ADV, Bandai, Viz and the defunct Geneon

but why then won't Scifi go ahead and show EoE then since Mangle pwns that? :?

[Kaysow]

Don't know much about the indigenous Sci-Fi Channel, but the european one that ran ten or so years ago used to show MST3K and I will always love them for it.

Also Tenchi Muyo and Robotech

[DatDude]

The sad part is I have the funimation channel after that line up ani-monday and Tuesday are not that bad.

[NAveryW]

but why then won't Scifi go ahead and show EoE then since Mangle pwns that? :?

Considering how much they censored GitS, there is no conceivable way they could show EoE without censoring it so much that it finally makes sense.

[DatDude]

but why then won't Scifi go ahead and show EoE then since Mangle pwns that? :?

Considering how much they censored GitS, there is no conceivable way they could show EoE without censoring it so much that it finally makes sense.

That would be pants on head retarted

[THE Hal E. Burton 9000]

but hey, it could be (unintentionally) VERY funny

like the one edited-for-TV version of Scarface where the curse words were ALL replaced by shoehorning in ridiculous words that made no sense and sounded hilarious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcJ61KEynm4

[Themaninblack]

but hey, it could be (unintentionally) VERY funny

like the one edited-for-TV version of Scarface where the curse words were ALL replaced by shoehorning in ridiculous words that made no sense and sounded hilarious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcJ61KEynm4

Hey only I'm allowed to make Scarface references...you Coachroaches

[V]

I'm sure Scifi (whose parent company Liberty Media PWNS Mangle TOO don't-ya-know) would LOVE to "transfer"(/steal) some of the licenses from ADV, Bandai, Viz and the defunct Geneon

but why then won't Scifi go ahead and show EoE then since Mangle pwns that? :?

Ok with Geneon gone what are all of the separate North American anime distributors?

*ADV (I assume the largest?)
*Manga Entertainment
*Bandai
*Viz
*What else?

[drinian]

Media Blasters.

[BrikHaus]

Funimation - I think they overtook ADV as the largest within the last couple of years.

[Taekmkm]

Not hard to overtake the dead.


And technically Sentai Works counts. I can't remember the name, but there's an LA company that are doing compilation movie works like Tekkaman.

[Guyver Spawn]

When I first saw this thread I thought V cameback for a moment.

[Space Penis]

The Appleseed OVA was a cliche waste of animation which I regret watching; a godawful hybridization of CGI and 2D animation which you quickly lose interest in.

Pretty sure you're thinking of the 2004 movie there, chief. The 1988 OVA didn't have any CGI at all, as far as I remember, and I would be hella surprised if something that old did.

[Merridian]

The Appleseed OVA was a cliche waste of animation which I regret watching; a godawful hybridization of CGI and 2D animation which you quickly lose interest in.

Pretty sure you're thinking of the 2004 movie there, chief. The 1988 OVA didn't have any CGI at all, as far as I remember, and I would be hella surprised if something that old did.

As far as I know, Ghost in the Shell was one of the first animated films to integrate CGI stuff into 2D animation. And that was in '95, so you're right.

And anyway, the Appleseed OVA was still pretty bad, even for 1988. It's probably one of the worst Masamune adaptations I've ever watched, but I haven't seen the newer Appleseed stuff (don't really want to), and I haven't read the manga to see how well it stacks up to begin with. I just couldn't stand the OVA.

[Xard]

The Appleseed OVA was a cliche waste of animation which I regret watching; a godawful hybridization of CGI and 2D animation which you quickly lose interest in.

Pretty sure you're thinking of the 2004 movie there, chief. The 1988 OVA didn't have any CGI at all, as far as I remember, and I would be hella surprised if something that old did.

As far as I know, Ghost in the Shell was one of the first animated films to integrate CGI stuff into 2D animation.

Macross Plus precedes GitS by one year. I don't know if it was first work to do that integration but in any case I know it's animation innovations in area were considered groundbreaking back then.

that said first GitS has propably best 2D/3D integration I've ever seen - I actually had to go and check wikipedia if 3D had been used in film at all!

[Merridian]

^Oh right, I forgot about that! General point is that this kinda stuff didn't come around until early-mid 90's. Main point is that the 1988 Appleseed OVA didn't have ANY 3D CGI-enhancements whatsoever.

that said first GitS has propably best 2D/3D integration I've ever seen

Oh hell yeah! I didn't even notice the 3D aspects until I verified it myself, and then really kept an eye out the next time I watched it. I think what helped is that there isn't nearly as much of it as there is in e.g. GitS 2 or The Sky Crawlers--which, strangely enough, relied so much on 3D because Oshii & co. couldn't hire enough animators. IIRC I read somewhere that most of the planes & a great deal of the dogfighting sequences were supposed to be hand-drawn.

[Dr. Nick]

As far as I know, Ghost in the Shell was one of the first animated films to integrate CGI stuff into 2D animation.

You need to go back in time waaay more.

[Xard]

^ yes, this is one of most worrisome developments in Japan's animation industry nowadays. They are running out of skillful animators

I really fear Ponyo will be swan song of completely hand drawn anime :(

Macross Plus's 3D integration is already excellent and used to great effect but remember that all those mindboggling dogfights are 99% 2D animation - it has much of the most mindboggling, most gorgeous animation in anywhere, ever.

Want to try to do scene like that today?

You don't have enough skilled animators and resources today. Not even if your name is Oshii.

Ghibli is last bastion of light in dark, dark world...

edit: Nick, that is revolting :X

[UrsusArctos]

You need to go back in time waaay more.

That CGI is so bad it's classic.

Oh, wait. It's 1983. Definitely classic.

yes, this is one of most worrisome developments in Japan's animation industry nowadays. They are running out of skillful animators

I think their entire production system has some serious flaws, animator salaries being one of them. Right now, the inability to attract a new group of skilled animators with halfway decent salaries is a serious flaw. Ghibli doesn't pay its animators starving wages, which is why they're better off than the rest of the lot.