Controversial Anime Opinions

[Giji Shinka]

People don't hate it cause it's bad, they hate it because it doesn't really do anything with the concept, characters or setting. There was so much lost potential.

I dislike SAO because:

SPOILER: Show

-There's no proper character development for the main characters
-Of Asuna's sudden personality change to tsundere
-Asuna's and Kirito's relationship feels forced
-Kirito is overpowered and can break rules of the game because power of friendship and love
-Almost every girl in the show falls in love with Kirito because he's the main character
-Of stupid villains (One forgets why he did all this and another....He's a fairy butterfly)
-Of Yui, walking deus-ex machina
-Of how they still allow virtual mmorpg's even after hundreds of people died
-Of how Asuna and Kirito somehow survived when both of them were killed by the villain of the first half
-Of random timeskips, filler, bad pacing and much, much more

[Dima]

People don't hate it cause it's bad, they hate it because it doesn't really do anything with the concept, characters or setting. There was so much lost potential.

When you are talking about the concept you mean the virtual thing? Because if you do it's not true at all. First of all it isn't the focus of the anime but still it gets it's screentime, especially in the second half of this season. The developments that are talking place with Kirito studying mechatronics, Full Dive system, the camera that allows AI like Yui seeing our world...... yeah it's setting for something big in the future.

When it comes to character development i think it's the best ace of the show especially when it comes to Kirito and Asuna. If you watched the first episode since the last one, last week you will see how much the characters have matured.

As for the setting, sorry but i can't find anything wrong with that either. How can i find something wrong when every season the show changes a ''game setting''.

First Season - Aincrad, Alfheim
Second Season - Gun Gale Online (cyberpunk world), New Aincrad

My only complain with the show is the number of episodes not tha pacing because it's very good. Having only 24+ episodes is forcing them to cut material from the novels. The show needs to be 30+ episodes.

[Nuclear Lunchbox]

Re-Take is not great for its storytelling. It's great because it called out a really noxious fanfiction trope, took it out behind the barn, and shot it dead. And then it gave us After, because it's swell like that.

I'd be lying if I didn't admit to liking the plot of Re-take. It took the existing story and, like any good fanfic, wrapped it around its finger and changed it into something that, for me, was a pleasure to read.

[Xard]

Aeneid is the only good fanfic ever written.

[caragnafog dog]

Aeneid is the only good fanfic ever written.

Looks like someone hasn't read Greek Tragedy

[Xard]

Looks like someone hasn't read Greek Tragedy

you got me there you rascal

[robersora]

I dislike SAO because it's a steaming pile of pandering garbage.

[Alaska Slim]

I hate SAO because .Hack// did this schtick over 10 years ago, and more comprehensively covered the themes it's playing with. Trapped in the game, ghost in the machine code, skilled people who spurn guilds, forbidden love, yadda yadda... Couldn't we at least change the MMO type being played?

What about a shooter? Or super heroes/villains? Or whatever the hell 2nd Life is?

...or Minequest? The entire premise tends to focus on survival anyway, so why not base it in one of the multiplayer games built around PvE survival?

Or sci-fi? Cause games where you have a spaceship auto beat ones where you start with a rusty dagger.

A modern take on Eve? Holly sh*t how epic that could be... Y'know, so long as it was current Eve, not the early one where everyone just mined all day & night.

[Dataprime]

All Dragonball is terrible

Those are fighting words, bub

[Dima]

I hate SAO because .Hack// did this schtick over 10 years ago, and more comprehensively covered the themes it's playing with. Trapped in the game, ghost in the machine code, skilled people who spurn guilds, forbidden love, yadda yadda... Couldn't we at least change the MMO type being played?

I agree but this doesn't mean it's bad or others are forbidden to use the same concept. Changing the MMO-type would mean no other contact with real persons so it couldn't work.

[Blue Monday]

Dragonball is shōnen. I'll never understand why people hate so much on cartoons primarily aimed at kids.

[Atropos]

Mawaru Penguindrum is the worst thing Ikuhara has made.

[robersora]

^
After Utena it is hard to reach the same level of outstanding quality again. And besides Utena, there's not a lot of other stuff he did...
(let's see how Yuri Kuma Arashi will do)

So, do you think it's really bad, or just not as good as Utena?

[Atropos]

So, do you think it's really bad, or just not as good as Utena?

I honestly think it's bad. One-dimensional characters, a plot that's not just surreal, but founded upon constantly contradicting information given earlier in the series, some extremely contrived situations, characters who do nothing interesting the entire time...I could go on.

[C.A.P.]

Mawaru Penguindrum is the worst thing Ikuhara has made.

Wrong.

[robersora]

I honestly think it's bad. One-dimensional characters, a plot that's not just surreal, but founded upon constantly contradicting information given earlier in the series, some extremely contrived situations, characters who do nothing interesting the entire time...I could go on.

Well, the last time I saw it was 2011... But I think, it's time for a rewatch.

Wrong.

So, what's worse?

[C.A.P.]

If we have to put something in that label, there's some episode he directed in Sailor Moon where it feels like he didn't really cared to put the "Ikuhara style" into some episodes. There's one episode of SuperS he did with Fish Eye where, while it has a utterly beautiful scene that screams Ikuhara, the rest of the episode is just another typical Sailor Moon filler episode. Which is fine, but knowing Ikuhara directed it makes you wonder.

The rest of the episodes he directed in SuperS is on par with anything he did after working on the series.

[Alaska Slim]

I agree but this doesn't mean it's bad

No, but it does mean its mediocre.

or others are forbidden to use the same concept.

Then do more with it, not less. As it stands it was just cashing in on .Hack// being a popular concept that hadn't been done in a while.

Changing the MMO-type would mean no other contact with real persons so it couldn't work.

I don't follow. There was contact with "real persons" in City of Heroes, in Planetside, in Second Life, in MineCraft, even Eve now.

Are you referring to something other than payer humanoid avatars being in the same room?

[Oz]

I honestly think it's bad. One-dimensional characters, a plot that's not just surreal, but founded upon constantly contradicting information given earlier in the series, some extremely contrived situations, characters who do nothing interesting the entire time...I could go on.

Penguindrum never contradicts itself (and what's wrong with it being surreal?). Instead its storytelling gradually reveals layers upon layers of information, character development and history in a pretty neat way that makes the experience all the more riveting. It never states that the characters or plot elements would be any different than they really are - it just cleverly hides the truth with implications. I found that to be masterful storytelling which served a purpose both dramatically and thematically.

As for calling the characters "one-dimensional" and saying they "do nothing interesting the entire time", I'm not really sure what you are talking about. I found them to be haunting portrayals of different ways how the metaphorical ghosts of the past and the chains of fate have a hold over the present. And I have no idea what you mean with "extremely contrived situations".

[Atropos]

^ All that backstory, and Shouma can be summed up as "What would Shinji do?" All that buildup, and Momoka can be summed up as "Jesus with a peach." All that mystery, and Mario is a fucking useless character.