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Postby Rosenakahara » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:59 am

View Original PostTrajan wrote:The series' reputation for killing off characters is a bit overblown. I mean, I guess it can be pretty traumatic if you're the kind that gets attached to supporting characters easily, but otherwise, your main cast still has pretty good plot armor.

Was anybody seriously surprised at the Female Titan's identity? I mean, Armin figures it out in like five minutes. I know he's smart and all, but he's also in the middle of a battle when he correctly deduces it.

I love how Jean goes from an unlikeable dick to possibly my favorite character. He's much more nuanced than Eren or Mikasa, has some sense of perspective and does what needs to be done without wangsting about it. Plus, it's good to have someone who's bluntly honest in a series like this.

The animation is just as gorgeous as ever.

When the second opening appeared, my first reaction was "the fuck is this" followed shortly by "get that weak-ass shit out of here!". I don't know why animes feel like they need to have multiple openings. The first one is one of the best openings I've ever seen, you don't replace near-perfection.

Did you know that the series was going to end with everyone dying until the author grew to like the characters a lot leading to the chapter 50 asspull? (i wont spoil what it is) so yeah a lot more people WERE going to die but the author just sort of stopped with that idea.

Honestly its pretty easy to figure out the female titan is the only one never seen with the main cast after being focused on for a bit in the opening, the female titans expressions are almost exactly the same and even without the flashback clarifying it if you pay attention the way she fights is the same too, plus the hair colour means it can only technically be two people in the mains.

And yeah jean becomes one of the most fun parts of the series, i really enjoy his time on-screen.

The second opening is ok.............but wtf were they thinking replacing that godlike first one?
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Postby IronEvangelion » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:10 am

Just finished Nadia: the Secret of Blue Water. What a great show. It had a great ending too, even if it was a bit cliche. I liked how it gave lots of closure after the ending, as far as what happened to the characters.
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I never would have imagined Sanson and Marie getting married! :lol:

This series also had my all-time favorite depictions of Nemo and the Nautilus (and I've been a huge fan of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea since my childhood, so that's saying a lot).

It was also very interesting to see just how much of this show was recycled into Neon Genesis Evangelion. It was almost like watching some sort of Eva prequel series. I can easily see the Atlanteans being the First Ancestral Race that created the Seeds of Life.
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Heck, they even had one of the Seeds hanging from the ceiling inside the Red Noah!
I got a kick out of all the Gunbuster references in the later episodes as well.

Overall I give this series 9 out of 10.
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Postby Alaska Slim » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:17 am

View Original PostFireball wrote:Cross Ange 10

NanoFate the Rebellion here we go


I'm getting an unsettling, Flay Allster vibe from Chris now...

And dear lord that song. Is it too much to ask that singers and production staff don't just toss themselves a coin? Like, maybe instead sing a classic song that has a following that everyone can agree is nice, and doesn't simply come off as self-congratulatory?

I had a similar problem with Macross doing this.
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Postby robersora » Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:46 am

View Original PostFireball wrote:It's a new Lupin movie by the director of Redline which is really all got to know. It was awesome.


Omg, totally forgot this is out. This was awesome, it had all the good points of the Lupin adaption from 2012, while also smoothing out all the wonkiness Minne Fujiko was plagued with. This especially concerns the animation, which was awesome in this movie. I hope we'll get another Lupin in this style eventually!
Oh, and great to see Koike's still in the business, after Redline almost destroyed Madhouse.

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Oh, that's why I didn't know, which Episode you were talking about, I kinda was at the wrong Episode. (Well, the numbering of Zoku Shou is generally a little bit awkward, since some people count the specials as ordinary Episodes, while others don't)

One of my audio-visual favourites from Zoku Shou is the Episode, where the little girl gets trapped in a parallel world inside the well. Mushi-shi is always very dream-like, but this one turned that dreaminess up to eleven. Top moment is, when the girl screams, and suddenly the world around her shifts. Her shout combined with the shifting effect was just breathtakingly magical.
But the latest Episode was very good as well... I think, it's the first time Mushi-shi dealt with the phenomenon of thunder, which was a sight to behold on it's own. But the storyline was also very interesting. I liked how there was no easy solution to the problem.
My overall favourites are on the one hand, Zoku Shou Ep. 10, where Ginko is trapped alone on the mountain (such an eerie instalment!); and on the other hand Episode 22 from season one. I'm talking about the one, where this couple had mushi-children made out of clay. That Episode was so chilling.

Yes, I am very sad, to see it go so soon... But better it ends now, before the quality might fall. Also I'm really curious to see how the finale will play out.
tl,dr: Mushi-shi is great, especially in season two, with the updated visuals.
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Postby Trajan » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:08 pm

View Original PostRosenakahara wrote:Did you know that the series was going to end with everyone dying until the author grew to like the characters a lot leading to the chapter 50 asspull? (i wont spoil what it is) so yeah a lot more people WERE going to die but the author just sort of stopped with that idea.

Honestly its pretty easy to figure out the female titan is the only one never seen with the main cast after being focused on for a bit in the opening, the female titans expressions are almost exactly the same and even without the flashback clarifying it if you pay attention the way she fights is the same too, plus the hair colour means it can only technically be two people in the mains.


Yeah, it is really obvious which is why I'm asking if anyone was surprised because the answer is practically staring you in the face. I was already spoilered going in, but even if I wasn't I think it would've taken me two minutes to figure it out. Which goes to show Armin must have been the only person to notice dat nose.
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Postby Ray » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:23 pm

Is that a disguise or did lupin really lose his eye?

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Postby Dataprime » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:28 pm

Right now I am watching Amagami SS. Almost done with season 1 too

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Postby caragnafog dog » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:37 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:But better it ends now, before the quality might fall.
Well there's not been much risk of that for a while since the manga is over. Like you, I'm really eager to see how it concludes. The safe assumption would be that Ginko keeps wandering, but it's implied in season 1 that his time is limited because of his condition. I'm sweating it out.

And yeah, episode 10 was landmark too, I think that was the only episode in which Ginko was the only human.
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Postby robersora » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:02 pm

View Original Postcaragnafog dog wrote:The safe assumption would be that Ginko keeps wandering, but it's implied in season 1 that his time is limited because of his condition. I'm sweating it out.


I think, it's pretty safe to assume, Ginko keeps on wandering, as the special, that aired in January was set after the conclusion of the Manga.
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Postby ::KL7:: » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:37 pm

Started Captain Earth and so far it's been interesting.most reviews I've read about it seem to be negative,the pacing, confusing, the main character....but what I've watched of it I've enjoyed so far and am actually liking the main characters. I'll admit it's not perfect and a bit confusing but I'm only 4 episodes into it and still interested.
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Postby Ray » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:43 pm

LONG POST INCOMING!

Vision Of Escaflowne (First Impressions. . .Kind've) :

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I commented a while back about comparing "Twelve Kingdoms" to "Vision Of Escaflowne" and wrote how I thought they had a similar plot. An ordinary person from 'our world' being sucked into a fantasy world, ala Chronicles Of Narnia.

But then it dawned on me, I personally hadn't seen Escaflowne since I saw the edited bastardized version on Fox Kids alongside reruns of Digimon back when I was a toddler. I couldn't exactly comment on the series, having never actually seen the real unedited one.

So having a day off, and all my IRL friends being too busy with Christmas and Final Exam related things I decided to watch some of the real non-edited version. I asked myself "was it really good to begin with?" I confess when I looked this anime up again as a teen. I dismissed it with one look at it's Wikipedia plot synopsis, the plot sounded like the blurb from the back of a trashy romance novel.

"Girl from our modern world falls into a fantasy world through coincidence and falls in love with a mysterious swordwielding stranger."


This is a plot that more often than not, just needs to die in a fire. Maybe the whole 'Twilight Fantasy Romance' Phenomenon just made me cynical and bitter towards the whole concept. So. . . I went into this anime knowing literally nothing about it, expecting to hate it knowing what little I did know.

Then I watched it, and I liked it . . . every time I finished an episode, I wanted to know "what happened next"? and watched the next episode. Until I realized I had blown through quite a few of the Twenty something episodes, and decided to take a break.

So here I am now, talking to you all about it.

So I went in, fists clenched, and a 'My rage is ready!" attitude, believing I'd hate the characters and setting. But it won me over. Why?

The setting is just one part of it, and how it forges its own identity outside of the usual 'Tolkien-isms' a lot of other fantasy works in the same vein tend to do. True parts of it do bear resemblence to medieval england, but it goes out of its way to establish each nation as its own seperate culture, and
I really enjoy how they made the concept of 'mech suits' work in a fantasy universe. These alone would have differentiated the setting from most other fantasy anime in the same vein. The world does have its own form of technology and magic, although (at least so far) there aren't any wizards casting spells or turning people into toads. and it all makes sense. I really like how they make these ridiculous flying machines powered by giant floating rocks just attached to a wooden ship with metal clamps. Since the magic is limited it does add a certain sense of weight and reality to the setting that a lot of fantasy in this vein tend to lack.

The animation while good for its time, is still kind've limited, and parts of it have not aged well at all. It suffers from a few 'Eva-isms' in that regard. Often the animation will limit the amount of movement the characters have, only animating the mouth or panning over a still image of one character as another is talking, or re-using animation from several episodes previous. Also, while CGI isn't used much in this series, when it is. . . its really obvious. Since most nineties TV grade CGI was terrible.

While the obvious corner cutting in a few small parts does make parts of the show a bit hard to swallow. It allows for actual Choreography in the Sword fights and Magic-Mech fight scenes!
Also for once, an anime with no gratuitous fanservice! . . . Sixteen episodes in, and there has been ONE panty-shot in the entire thing. In the first episode! and thats it! As a person who is often bugged by such things, its nice to find something that is trying to tell story rather than pandering to the Otaku with blatant fanservice. Remember when you could have sexual references and humor without showing the audience how well the studio could animate a womans body parts jiggling? Escaflowne does that!

What i think makes Escaflowne succeed where other fantasy properties with similar premises fail, is the inherently flawed and subversive nature of the characters. Each one of them fills an archetype you'd expect to find in a typical poorly written fantasy romance novel, but each one of them fills that archetype with something that subverts it and makes them their own characters with issues and history.

You've got Van the hotheaded prideful warrior prince, Allen the chivalrous and lawful Yin to Vans Yang, Princess Millerna the healer, Merle the mascot character, and our self insert character Hitomi. In the hands of lesser writers any one of them could have turned out terrible. But none of them did.
Van is a proud warrior prince with a huge responsibility and heroic destiny. But he has issues with his parents and his heritage, and with said responsibility despite choosing to accept it, and pays no small price and suffers no small amount of pain in an attempt to regain his country from the invaders.

Allen seems like an utterly perfect Male-Sue character right out of a bad romance novel at first. Turns out not only does he also have issues with his parents and more in common with Van than he would admit, he also

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has an illegitimate child with an important ally's wife/friends sister and horrible guilt over it! You can just imagine the pain and regret he's going through when you see him sitting across the room, forbidden from interacting with his own son, the only thing he has left of the woman he loved!

You didn't actually watch the show did you? I put it in a spoiler for a reason. No sleep for you tonight.


Millerna, a character you wouldn't expect to develop. Also takes a huge leap in character development after she finds out about it. While not a 'deconstruction' it is neat to see how a woman who threw away her title for love develops after finding out about who the man she did it for really is inside. It does away with the trashy romance novel tropes rather nicely.

The weakest link in terms of characters however, is our self insert character Hitomi. But even then she's not a bad character! She's our self insert, so she doesn't really have much of a personality at first, a lot like an issue I had with Alto in Macross Frontier. But she does contribute to the story and the fight against the villains. So she's not entirely unecessary and just along for the ride. She does have issues and angst with being swept up from her own world into a darker fantasy one, but the series never really dwells on her angst. She has angst, but then adapts to her newfound situation in her own special way. That's perfectly okay sometimes, not every character is going to go from being an average Jane to Xena: Warrior Princess just because you throw them into a life or death situation, and she does have support from the beginning allowing her to keep her sanity and adapt without being afraid of being killed or enslaved within the first twenty minutes.

However outside of the main cast, the villains are not very interesting. Dastardly evil and enjoyable to see put down, but not very interesting.

EDIT: With maybe the exception of Evil Bastard Child Soldier Dilandau. I guess its just because we don't get much time with him that we don't really feel pity for him.

The dub is actually above par for its time. . .

okay, it's not Bebop-level of Quality. It's got imperfections, but it has a certain warmth and character to it that a lot of modern dubs tend to lack. I think the reason I enjoy the dub is because of the way the actors choose to play the characters like they're actual characters in a movie or play, and not cartoons. Which is the reason a lot of dubs from that mixed-bag era of localization tended to fail. Too often the performances were hammy and over the top, and that has its place just not in most anime aimed at an older audience.

It also helps that the majority of voices involved aren't really, 'distinctive' voices. Often when a VA with a distinct voice gets an Iconic role, you tend to associate the voice with the character and it gets in the way of you relating to this new character he's playing. I don't think I need to say much about how Spike Spencer and Vic Mignogna have been the victims of extreme fan hate because of them playing someone other than Shinji and Edward respectively.

I also really enjoy how the company involved decided to recruit real children to play the roles of the younger characters like Sheed. It adds a sense of authenticity and emotional weight to the dub, especially considering how most children in anime these days are voiced by adult women. Although I do think the kid they cast for Dilandau sounds a bit too young for his character. He's supposed to be about sixteen I guess, and he sounds like a ten year old. Though even that does kind've work to the series advantage. Its really creepy seeing this older body and Vain, Vengeful attitude speak with a childs voice.

Anyways excellent: I may revise my judgement once I get to the end. But as of episode 16, Escaflowne gets from a hard to please fan like me, a solid 8/10
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Postby Rosenakahara » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:49 pm

View Original PostRay wrote: I dismissed it with one look at it's Wikipedia plot synopsis, the plot sounded like the blurb from the back of a trashy romance novel.

"Girl from our modern world falls into a fantasy world through coincidence and falls in love with a mysterious swordwielding stranger."


This is a plot that more often than not, just needs to die in a fire. Maybe the whole 'Twilight Fantasy Romance' Phenomenon just made me cynical and bitter towards the whole concept.

This is part of the reason why i love twelve kingdoms, de-constructs the shit out of this trope.

Also i realized i have never actually seen Escaflowne either, i should probably go watch that after i finish reading Demonic child
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Postby Ornette » Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:00 pm

View Original PostFireball wrote:

Watched Lupin the IIIrd: Jigen Daisuke no Bohyou

It's a new Lupin movie by the director of Redline which is really all got to know. It was awesome.

Recently got to check this out as well. Always been a big fan of the series and have tried to stay on top of all the movies/specials. This one was listed as a spin-off of Fujiko's series and art was pretty much the same. Big props for using a Maserati Merak, though the mirrors and door handles were drawn wrong. Those were sexy looking cars.

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Postby mechashiva » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:28 am

@Ray, I had similar feelings about "Escaflowne" when I saw it. Then again, I saw it around the same time while I was wrapping up the first season of "Magic Knights Rayearth". I liked that it was fantasy setting that didn't just do the elves-dwarves-dragons English medieval/Tolkien milieu. If I was going to compare it to anything, I would compare to "Dragonriders of Pern" with a similar blend of fantasy and sci-fi. (bear in mind, I've only read one Pern book)

What I also liked was the scale of Gaea and how different each of the world's countries and areas feel real while cramming in a LOT of anime tropes: mechs, effeminate looking antagonists, head-strong warriors, cat-girls, etc.
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Postby Ray » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:05 am

I do find it slightly disappointing that Escaflownes dragon mode doesn't have fire breath. I guess they really blew their "fire animation" budget on the fight in the first episode. But still, a dragon that can't breathe fire is barely a dragon at all.

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Postby Justacrazyguy » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:53 pm

Kaguya-hime no Monogatari: Never before has a movie made me hate the moon so much.

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Postby artesox » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:07 pm

I'm watching a lot of shows from fall 2014, the one which caught my attention the most is Yuki Yuna is a hero, I thought I was in for a Madoka-ish show but in truth it is closer to Bokurano.

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Postby caragnafog dog » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:13 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:I think, it's pretty safe to assume, Ginko keeps on wandering, as the special, that aired in January was set after the conclusion of the Manga.
I somehow missed this, I thought it was just an adaptation of a particular story that took two chapters. Damn.
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Postby Shinoyami65 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:35 pm

View Original PostRay wrote:
"Girl from our modern world falls into a fantasy world through coincidence and falls in love with a mysterious swordwielding stranger."


Gotta admit, I thought you were talking about Fushigi Yugi for a second before I scrolled up -o-;

If Twelve Kingdoms actually deconstructs that particular cliché then it might be interesting, though.
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Postby Ray » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:15 pm

Again, not a bad concept in and of itself. But when handled incorrectly (like a lot of anime in this vein usually do) It usually makes for a terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE product that should be avoided at all costs.

Fortunately, I never got that from Escaflowne. The y went above and beyond the call of duty.

Of course I still haven't gotten to the ending so my Final impression of the series may change.


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