Jabberwok wrote:Are you meaning to say the Harpies' Heavy-Lances are of the same line as Lilith's "missing" Lance? Perhaps created in a way similar to how Rei-buds may or may not be harvested? Not disagreeing, just want to know if that's where you were going.
I had thought that perhaps the manner of the Copies' destruction (exploding into Tang-colored blobs with Rei-sprout-looking things sticking out) was a visual allusion back to the owner of the "Original" (the one that was stuck in the Moon).
What doesn't make much sense is why Adam would be "suspended" in the first place. In what way did she 'not follow their own goals'? I would have expected Lilith, as an interloper, to be the one skewered. Was Adam planning to do something "not in the book", perhaps to her children, in response to Lilith?
Perhaps Seeds "not following their own goals" alludes to two of them ending up on the same world. Ergo, one must get KO'd "for the sake of 'public safety'", because otherwise you have your two lines of humans killing each other. Or something.
Clearly their plan to use tang as a path to divinity would have angered the Lance, but what would its purpose have been before its destruction? To destroy the Seed that initiated Third Impact before it could leave or form the Tree of Life or something?
They say that they can't achieve complementation/Instrumentality via Lilith without the Spear. Hmm.
[I have a pet theory that the intended Units 05-16 (count 12, as in twelve monoliths) were to be Seele's indended god-shells after 3I. The Lance would not have approved. 12... 12.. The 12 Titans perhaps?]
The 12 harpies/12 Seele Dudes observation has come up before... I have some inarticulate thoughts about this (of no particular consequence, since they're inarticulate), but, whatever Seele had planned, I think they just wanted to use the Evas for "opening the Path to Divinity", and then everyone gets fused into one big, happy hivemind. Humanity's "colony" existence is abandoned for a "singular" one.
EDIT: Forgot to paste this into the box...
Mr. Tines wrote:If it weren't so clearly the same Spear that Yui summons that Rei threw away, I would have suggested that there might have been a bit of the old gypsy switch going on during the chaos of 3I.
"Old gypsy switch"?
The "summoning" thing is another problem... How DO you explain all this?
Yui takes in Shinji and blasts open a path to the surface, straight through the Nerv pyramid.The cross of light reforms into two wings; Yui levitates out; the surroundings are whipped into a furor by (presumably) the deployment of her ATF.She pops off her pylons; the two wings split into four.On the Moon, an ATF blur begins to 'affect' the Spear. It starts pulling out slowly, and finally, when the blur hits the peak of intensity, it whisks out and zooms back to Earth.The non-bident end comes directly to Yui's throat (she's already bent backwards with it exposed, as if in anticipation?); the environs immediately settle down.Seele are all happy, and they start the proceedings.
And later on, it fuses with her only AFTER mysterious things have happened to result in Yui finally getting the actual Fruit of Life (courtesy of Kaworu-Adam and big hands, if the sequence of events means anything...) and thus, in theory, actualizing the 'godhood' Seele didn't want her to have. And then, even later, after she's sprouted 12 wings, Yui "hacks up" the Spear (which magically reappears "out of nowhere", accompanied by a spray of red) and apparently makes it work for HER.
Also, Lilith, before falling apart, was allowed to become immensely huge, S2-powered, and 12-winged, and wiped organic life off the face of the planet. And the Spear just stands by in ToL form and gets eaten by Lilith's forehead. "Oh, okay, whatever. It's all good."
So, uh, what's going on, again?
Originally posted on: 06.20.2006, 07:43 PM
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