Evangelion 3.0 Speculation [1]

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Postby Brainman » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:18 pm

I should write a fanfic about old Asuka I have a feeling it would be interesting.


A young character finds a picture of Asuka in her plug suit from back in the day. "You used to wear that!" Then he is beaten with a cane.

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Postby AngelNo13Bardiel » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:56 am

View Original PostFinal Messenger wrote:I would love a nice happy ending (and for a S/A end) but this is evangelion so I won't hold my breath


Yeah, good idea. We (and I'm sure many, many others) would just end up asphyxiating waiting for either such thing.
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:45 am

View Original PostAngelNo13Bardiel wrote:Yeah, good idea. We (and I'm sure many, many others) would just end up asphyxiating waiting for either such thing.

I guess a SXA romance is best left up to doujinshi. :(
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Postby Fireand'chutes77 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:43 am

I would love a nice happy ending (and for a S/A end) but this is evangelion so I won't hold my breath
View Original PostAngelNo13Bardiel wrote:Yeah, good idea. We (and I'm sure many, many others) would just end up asphyxiating waiting for either such thing.

That's an... uncomfortable choice of words, given the pairing in question. Image Image



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Then he is beaten with a cane.

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Postby AngelNo13Bardiel » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:13 am

View Original PostFireand'chutes77 wrote:That's an... uncomfortable choice of words, given the pairing in question. Image Image


It also wasn't an accident. Why do you think I phrased it that way? :nyao:
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Postby Final Messenger » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:34 am

View Original PostAngelNo13Bardiel wrote:Yeah, good idea. We (and I'm sure many, many others) would just end up asphyxiating waiting for either such thing.

I see what you did there :lol: (if we don't get a A/S ending for rebuild (which will probley happen once again I say THIS IS EVANGELION NO HAPPY ENDINGS HERE unless your a alternate universe manga) I will attempt to write fan fiction again and hope for a rebuild equvalant to retake)

edit: a R/K ending would be awesome too (I consider Kawrou bi there is no proof that he is only (note I only say only) atracted to men for all we know he could like the company of women as well) but that won't happen either because Kawrou will most likely end up dying :(
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Postby tomrule123 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:32 pm

I'd be impressed if the final film is as good of an ending as End of EVA... hell, let it further impress me more if they do something more threatening than End of EVA.
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Postby Cosman246 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:24 pm

I want a dark, hard-to-understand, and abstract ending. Hopefully, all the characters are broken like in the original
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:08 pm

I want an ending that isn't too happy or too sad.

I guess I'm just hard to please....
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Postby driftking18594 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:41 pm

My own hypothesis is that Asuka experiences an epiphany of sorts during her experience with Bardiel, and that it may fuse with her to give her powers on par with Kaworu. Meh, a man can dream, or at least make it into a fanfic.

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Postby Tsuki No Nagisa » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:41 pm

Yeh all that is correct, Actually in the new trailer , it is anounced that eva 3.0 will be released in autumn 2012 , also quickening is the 5 fase of the pregnancy (?) i dont remember tat mcuh


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Postby hellrasinbrasin » Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:03 am

My speculation is that both Adam and Lilith are meant to be merged The Lord of the White Moon and the Queen of the Red Earth giving birth to a God-Like being to be controlled through Unit-1

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Postby Stryker » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:33 am

That'd be pretty awesome.

What I think will happen is basically a heavily modified version of what happens from episodes 16-20, with more ass-kicking. Also... CARD GAMES ON EVANGELIONS!
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Postby Cruel Thesis » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:11 am

After all these years im kinda tired of seeing the characters suffer - especially Shinji. I wouldn’t change anything about End of Eva, but I don’t really want rebuild to go back there.
I would like to see a happier ending for rebuild.. but its hard for me to be enthusiastic because I was really disappointed with 2.0. in general. I dunno maybe the next film will be better..

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Postby KingXanaduu » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:21 pm

View Original PostCruel Thesis wrote:After all these years im kinda tired of seeing the characters suffer - especially Shinji. I wouldn’t change anything about End of Eva, but I don’t really want rebuild to go back there.
I would like to see a happier ending for rebuild.. but its hard for me to be enthusiastic because I was really disappointed with 2.0. in general. I dunno maybe the next film will be better..


I completely agree. I think that each of the characters have suffered enough for one lifetime. I hope Anno plans to give the series a more hopeful ending for the characters.

If he somehow plans to "outdo" End of Evangelion in some twisted way, I think I will lose every fiber of interest for Evangelion. :nono: Pray that doesn't happen!
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Postby SaltyJoe » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:33 pm

A late reply:

View Original PostBrainman wrote:Later on, we learn that Asuka and Mari know each other. Their's is a rivalry reborn right when they meet again.

When Mari gets inside the cockpit of Unit-02, she comments that it smells of someone else, but doesn't recognize the smell. Nothing conclusive, but this does imply that she and Asuka have not met before. Just a nitpick.
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:33 pm

View Original Postxanderkh wrote:I completely agree. I think that each of the characters have suffered enough for one lifetime. I hope Anno plans to give the series a more hopeful ending for the characters.

If he somehow plans to "outdo" End of Evangelion in some twisted way, I think I will lose every fiber of interest for Evangelion. :nono: Pray that doesn't happen!

come on anno's best at mind screws, though I would like to see a lighter ending, but with all the talk on nichan I got a bad feeling about Q :raincloud:
I hope you don't lose intrest in it, it would suck not to have you on the forum.:)
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Postby Brainman » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:41 pm

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I would like to see a happier ending for rebuild.. but its hard for me to be enthusiastic because I was really disappointed with 2.0. in general. I dunno maybe the next film will be better..


Essentially my feelings about the matter. To me, the best part of 2.0 is it being a set up for the possibilities of 3.0. I could go on with why that is, but it's a pretty exhausted topic by now. The flavor was just all wrong for me. But that doesn't necessarily mean anything regarding the third one, since I pretty much liked the first one. I'm giving it as fair a shot as it needs.

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If he somehow plans to "outdo" End of Evangelion in some twisted way, I think I will lose every fiber of interest for Evangelion. Pray that doesn't happen!


Well, a dark ending wouldn't put me off nearly as much as a boring one. If it's interesting and takes me by surprise in a more impressive and cerebral way, that'd be fine by me. What I don't like are things that seem "surprising" but are actually typical for virtually any other anime (dinner party subplot complete with love triangle, eh? Yeah ok, great job guy). The only reason I didn't see Rei cooking as a plot element coming was because I wasn't looking under the bar.

To me it seems like Anno was hypersensitive to the criticisms that Eva was too confusing, because I'd really like to see it push boundaries in that post modern way like before. Only use the budget more in that capacity. I'd like to see scenes that push the use of composition and art direction to create truly striking dream imagery. When I watch films like The Fall by Tarsem I wonder how one could so something similar but using animation to bend it even further. But so far it's like, nah, she's wearing an apron and look at this see-through get up. Oh how sad is this scene? No, you don't need to know this character's motivation yet. Unit 02 is a monster, cool right?

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When Mari gets inside the cockpit of Unit-02, she comments that it smells of someone else, but doesn't recognize the smell. Nothing conclusive, but this does imply that she and Asuka have not met before. Just a nitpick.


I thought about that. But to me, it seemed more like she was commenting that she "didn't mind the smell" meaning it wasn't as favorable a scent to her as Shinji's. Also it'd be strange for her to remember a smell like Asuka's from childhood; but far be it for me to call something from Evangelion weird.

In any case, the reason why I include it in the Brainman Certified version is because Asuka and Mari having a previous relationship and extended interaction in the film would be a good way for both of them to "catch up" with the rest of the cast. Them having experience with each other would make it easier to quickly establish things with both of them using less dialogue than it would take for them to get acquainted. You could quickly go "boom, boom" Asuka was seen as a pre-madonna and Mari was a self starter but also a conniver. Get it in, get us up to speed. Then ok, space stuff happens.

Also, don't take the Brainman version as canonical as it's just me wasting time until 2012. I'm thinking maybe Megatron shows up; I mean who cares? It's just fun.

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Postby KingXanaduu » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:49 pm

View Original PostBrainman wrote:Cruel Thesis

Well, a dark ending wouldn't put me off nearly as much as a boring one. If it's interesting and takes me by surprise in a more impressive and cerebral way, that'd be fine by me. What I don't like is things that seem "surprising" but are actually typical for virtually any other anime (dinner party subplot complete with love triangle, eh? Yeah ok, great job guy). The only reason I didn't see Rei cooking as a plot element coming was because I wasn't looking under the bar.


Perhaps I should have been more specific on the details. What I meant to say was that I hope it doesn't turn into the utter-depressing "Kill 'em All" and "lose faith in the protagonist" ending that was End of Evangelion. I thought that EoE was visually beautiful (albeit disturbing), but it was still depressing to me. I'd like Anno to do the exact same thing visually, but with a least a "light at the end of the tunnel" ending for the characters. Believe me, I want to be surprised just as you are. :)
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Postby Brainman » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:02 am

View Original Postxanderkh wrote:Perhaps I should have been more specific on the details. What I meant to say was that I hope it doesn't turn into the utter-depressing "Kill 'em All" and "lose faith in the protagonist" ending that was End of Evangelion. I thought that EoE was visually beautiful (albeit disturbing), but it was still depressing to me. I'd like Anno to do the exact same thing visually, but with a least a "light at the end of the tunnel" ending for the characters.


Oh, I see. The thing is, I'm actually one of the ones who see there being a silver lining in End of Evangelion. Although you really have to take certain elements as metaphorical. Mostly in the very last sequence. Yes humans have the bad habit of hurting one another, but also...

Either way, what I have my fingers crossed for is the animation and style to be bolder now that it's strutting in uncharted territory. The psychological stuff in TV episodes 25 and 26 was fine and all, but visually, it was just a slideshow and "keep reading, jerk." Let's see that done with grand cinematic stylings in the vein of that good old Shakespearian anime approach to content.


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