Jäeger wrote:Clone of your mother = incest. Not the same person, but incest. And sorry, but if something did 3.0 was to point the sister direction. More than NGE did. You're mixing a lot of things. As long as we know, Rei didn't know she was Yui's clone, of course she is not gonna act the same way, the mind is not cloned. But that doesn't denies what Rei is. And after introducing Rei Q, I don't think Anno will waste a character which needs more development. It's Rei II/III again.
I don´t see Rei Q as a different Rei. In fact, I think she will somehow regain her memories in Final. And you said it yourself, she isn´t the same person. That is a big difference with the usual approach to incest in fiction works, where two people are totally confirmed siblings. And even in those works, the characters didn´t feel what you´d call a familial or sibling attraction between them. They were romantically or sexually attracted, incest was an obstacle but didn´t change the nature of their emotions. Some of them even had kids. I can name a few examples: Star Wars (Luke and Leia), J.R.R. Tolkien with one of his Silmarillion stories (about Túrin Turambar and his sister Niënor) , Gabriel García Márquez with "One hundred years of Sollitude". If you want anime examples, then I could give you a lot. But I guess you probably know some so I don´t need to.
Umm not really. Shinji didn´t blush when Rei smiled, and I never saw him complimenting her outfit and blushing in the original series. See, those differences are what makes me think there is a change on their relationship from NGE. Shinji didn´t show an attraction on Rei different from the one he should feel on his mother. Here, he is showing it, as blushing while being around her, and as staring at her naked body (which was in fact on the original series, but was the only sign of attraction different from a familial one)
As for Rei, in the original series she only blushed after he called her "mother". There´s a difference I think.
Lets get things straight here. By the way, I´m assuming that with "she paid for it" you are referencing her being seemingly killed by Bardiel. Asuka stepping aside has nothing to do with that. Misato praised her actions, Asuka was emotionally satisfied, and she even earned a "Thank you" from Rei. I don´t believe Asuka being wrong is Anno´s message. What happens after that is only a way of making the plot work. Hell, just when things were going right Asuka, who made the right decision, is screwed by the ninth angel. And it is because of Gendo. If you ask me, that´s a great method to establish him as the bad guy, not to prove Asuka was wrong.
And I guess if Rei is acting like a sister with the dinner then both Asuka and Misato (who were aware of her intentions) were wrong assuming she had romantic feelings. I mean, every character is assuming it , and those assumptions are never denied (not even in 3.0). And more importantly, Asuka SPELLS IT OUT for her. The people behind the movie are bombarding us with the information. It is not a coincidence that most casual viewers assumed Rei and Shinji had romantic feelings for each other. They are not wrong.
To illustrate this, lets imagine that Rebuild ended at 2.22. Or that Final doesn´t center on Shinji and Rei´s relationship at all. In that case, it would only be logical to assume their feelings were in fact romantic, as the last time the relationship was explored (2.22) it was deemed as a romantic one. And that assumption was never denied. Well, 3.0 didn´t deny or confirm anything, as Kaworu occupied all of the space. Therefore, we have to assume they are still romantic. The only change is the Yui thing, and, while it could stop them from being together at the end, it doesn´t change the nature of what they were feeling at 2.22.
After all the things I said, even if they don´t form a couple in Final, I heavily disagree with that. If Kaworu isn´t a main character in Final, then Rei must play an important role, simply because those two have moved most of the plot up to this point.
Jäeger wrote:Sadamoto's manga is not a very good reference And the funny things it's that as long as the story advances, it has more Asushin details that don't fit well after we've read. Maybe to fit better with the series canon?? Who knows?? Sadamanga is not a very good example of storywriting and I hate the way it applies the archimides principle : to develop a character and her relationship with Shinji (which was fine for me) we sacrifice another one. That one he had the most complex relationship with.
What Asushin moments? The almost kiss, which was in fact toned down from the original series where they actually kissed? The hospital scene, which only led to Rei being jealous during her battle with Armisael? The fight with the MP Evas, which was a way to not let Asuka have the tragic dead she had in EoE? And I don´t see how those scenes overshadow the quantity of Rei/Shinji or Kaworu/Shinji in the manga.
As I said before, Rei and Kaworu have moved almost the entire plot up to this point. At least one of them should be important.