Shikinami Asuka Langley...?

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Postby Legendary » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:53 pm

Rommel wrote:I would have said Jesus and Mary Magdalene was probably the best example of shipping, but maybe that was just Dan Brown.


Well, Jesus had a human form that could have been sexy, so it's not unreasonable. God though explicitly states that he has looks that kill.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:54 pm

There's normal tension between romantic couples.

And then there's train wrecks like Asuka and Shinji. Where Asuka's self-destructive high maintenance personality would drive Shinji quickly to one of two options- Suicide OR Super Brutal Murder That You Read About On Page One.

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Postby Legendary » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:54 pm

Wait... you say that because I don't think they're insulting Asuka I'm gullible?

Or perhaps the red Q means that stuff was taken out...

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:58 pm

And we have examples of Shinji trying
* suicide -- fail twice
* murder -- win one, lose one

The S/A scenario I see is one day Shinji comes home from doing the shopping to find Asuka in bed with Touji (having decided she needs a man in her bed), then six weeks later, the coffee-pot scene.
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Postby NAveryW » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:58 pm

Legendary wrote:Wait... you say that because I don't think they're insulting Asuka I'm gullible?

Or perhaps the red Q means that stuff was taken out...
No, he added the Q later. Nothing was removed.
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Postby NAveryW » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:58 pm

Mr. Tines wrote:* suicide -- fail twice
I still don't think there's any hard evidence that he tried to drown himself.
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Postby Rommel » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:59 pm

Legendary wrote:
Rommel wrote:I would have said Jesus and Mary Magdalene was probably the best example of shipping, but maybe that was just Dan Brown.


Well, Jesus had a human form that could have been sexy, so it's not unreasonable. God though explicitly states that he has looks that kill.


Somehow I find the words "Jesus" and "sexy" in the same sentence to be hilarious.

There's normal tension between romantic couples.

And then there's train wrecks like Asuka and Shinji.


Have you ever BEEN in a relationship? They're all like that. My girlfriend and I fought Verduns over who was supposed to put the toilet seat down.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:00 pm

The Scarlet Letter replaces a multiple nested whole previous post (or similar offence against Posting rule C).
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Postby Rommel » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:04 pm

Um... no that looks like I screwed up a quote or something.

And no, I'm not saying you are gullible. I'm saying you are naive. Yes, I'm sure changing the name of a character who prides herself in her individuality can be justified by "they probably changed Asuka's name to fit Rei's."

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:05 pm

I've been in my fair share of relationships (oh and some of them have been real disasters- my current relationship is bugging the fuck out of me cause even after all the shit we've done she's still so damn modest) and no matter how bad or good they've been they have never gotten anywhere near the destructiveness of A/S. I mean I can't see one point past Episode 12 where those two characters actually ENJOY each others company.
Maybe I'm just lucky in love.

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Postby Legendary » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:07 pm

Uhm, she isn't priding herself in individuality. She's proud of herself for being the best.

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Postby Rommel » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:07 pm

They never did have a relationship, either. So it's impossible to say how they would deal with it. Anything else, like the suicide stuff, is pure wankanery. Then again, that's what we are here for.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:09 pm

@Rommel ^4
You are confusing two different levels, between inside the narrative and looking at it from the outside where the names deliberately happen to have a common theme running through the whole cast.
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Postby NAveryW » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:11 pm

Rommel wrote:They never did have a relationship, either. So it's impossible to say how they would deal with it. Anything else, like the suicide stuff, is pure wankanery. Then again, that's what we are here for.
Even if "wankanery" were real vernacular, it has been officially stated that Shinji intended to commit suicide when he was standing at that one popular suicide spot in that one episode. I don't think there's enough evidence to be sure whether he actually intended to drown himself at the beginning of EoE, though.

EDIT: Oh boy, now we have two threads all about Asuka's new name.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:17 pm

The Asuka stuff was split into here, please discuss it in this thread instead of the main Rebuild 2.0 one.

NAveryw: Try again; it was split then merged.
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Postby NAveryW » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:17 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:The Asuka stuff was split into here, please discuss it in this thread instead of the main Rebuild 2.0 one.
Or better yet, let's not discuss it at all.
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Postby Rommel » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:17 pm

NAveryW wrote:
EDIT: Oh boy, now we have two threads all about Asuka's new name.


I'm getting confused. I just deleted a post I didn't think I meant to delete. Oh well.

Or better yet, let's not discuss it at all.


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Postby universalperson » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:21 pm

Are you sure this isn't a bad translation?

Maybe if were lucky, we find she changed her name due to her unhappy childhood.
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Postby Legendary » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:23 pm

Nope, it's in Kanji, and uses very different symbols. The poster with this change is on the forum somewhere.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:28 pm

Legendary wrote:The poster with this change is on the forum somewhere.


post/225902/Any-word-on-REBUILD-20-yet/#225902 poster
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post/225936/Any-word-on-REBUILD-20-yet/#225936 translation
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