Rebuild 1:0 "You are (not) alone" Reviews/Spoilers

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Postby Sachi » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:50 pm

I didn't like what they did with her mask in the video. It just doesn't fit her to have a Sachi mask. They should've stuck with the SEELE mask.
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Postby Reichu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:01 pm

Sachiel_13 wrote:It just doesn't fit her to have a Sachi mask. They should've stuck with the SEELE mask.

Consider this might be her real face.

I think it fits enough. The "Angel face" symbol resembles a stylized owl face (see especially the snowy owl), and Lilith has a classical association with owls.

I would've preferred if they had just, you know, given Lilith a normal head instead of that bizarre egg-shaped mass with no apparent jaws -- but I suppose that was too much to ask.
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Postby Sceleris » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:11 pm

kasuturo wrote:Anyway, returning to the movie, I don't know if this is like that but that's the impression I have from Gendo... I think he's more of a son of a b..., specially in Operation Yashima, after Ramiel's first shot.

Does anybody know what he says there? Maybe he's like "we don't have time to waste on that girlie boy"...

Well, I'm neither a native English speaker nor a native Japanese speaker, but maybe something along the lines of:
Misato: "What about the energy system?"
Makoto: "It's still going. The recharging has already begun."
Misato: "And the positron rifle?"
Maya: "It's in good health. The barrel is currently cooling down. However, it can probably only fire one more shot..."
Misato: "Verifying this is useless. We have to do this. Shinji, are you okay? Hurry, return Unit-01 to the sniping point. ...Shinji?"
Shinji: "U...! Uu...!"
Gendo: "For now, have Unit-01's pilot replaced. Put Unit-00's pilot in charge of shooting."
Fuyutsuki: "Ikari."
Gendo: "If he's useless, we have no choice but to remove him."
Misato: "Please wait!! He got in the Eva without escaping. Unless he himself wants to get off, you should trust him!"
Shinji: "Uu..."
Touji: "Shinji, take care of it."
Kensuke: "Ikari, do your best."
Misato: "Please have faith in your child. ...I too will trust in him as Unit-01's pilot!"
Gendo: "I'll leave it to you. Do as you wish."
Misato: "Thank you... Shinji!"
Shinji: "Yes."
Misato: "Once again, the energy of everyone in Japan, all of our wishes, the future of mankind, and the survival of every living creature... is entrusted to you. Do your best."
Shinji: "Yes...!"

(Well, at least she's not putting any pressure on him.)

Reichu wrote:Consider this might be her real face.

I consider her to have no face at all, and the mask being there pretty much just to tell which way is front. Or to freak out guests less/more.

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Postby Sachi » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:26 pm

Sceleris wrote:
Reichu wrote:Consider this might be her real face.
I consider her to have no face at all.

Exactly, If that's her real face then how is that EoE scene where the mask falls from her face gonna work?
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Postby Reichu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:51 pm

Sachiel_13 wrote:Exactly, If that's her real face then how is that EoE scene where the mask falls from her face gonna work?

Well, first off, Rebuild =/= NGE.

Second, in EoE, a lot of flesh is taken off when the mask falls; her face (or the remnants thereof) could well be plastered to the back and contained in those white tendrils. Lilith lacking a face doesn't really make any sense, and the very presence of the mask in the first place is suggestive of the heresy (or whatever) of looking upon God's face.

As has been mentioned, what appear to be actual eyes are visible in Rebuild, and there isn't room for very much else beneath that flat "Angel face", so it seems like a good possibility we are actually looking upon the visage of "God" this time around.
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Postby kasuturo » Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:58 am

Reichu wrote:As has been mentioned, what appear to be actual eyes are visible in Rebuild, and there isn't room for very much else beneath that flat "Angel face", so it seems like a good possibility we are actually looking upon the visage of "God" this time around.


I agree.

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Postby Sceleris » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:18 pm

Reichu wrote:Lilith lacking a face doesn't really make any sense, and the very presence of the mask in the first place is suggestive of the heresy (or whatever) of looking upon God's face.

I think it makes sense for it to have no face (as in no real facial features except eyes, evidently, and perhaps an opening for a mouth) until its' whole body takes shape. And masks seem important -- it looks like someone took the effort of stapling a mask to the moon giant.

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Postby yokuchi » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:16 pm

In case anyone's interested...Hikari was waiting to board the train with Kensuke and Toji at 17 minutes and 13-16 seconds into the movie (well, the second half of the movie, but its all that available).

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Postby UrsusArctos » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:20 pm

I saw that too, she's got only a cameo appearance this time around and no lines. The reason I thought she wasn't in the movie at all was because I didn't hear her dialogue around the time Toji and Kensuke run off to see the Shamshel fight.
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Postby kasuturo » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:41 pm

I don't think she's like essential in the plot of EVA 1.0 anyway. Maybe she was added in favor of beautiful fanservice.
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Postby pikadourei » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:15 am

Spoiler:
Where does the moon Giant come from, it's nowhere to be seen untill Kaworu steps out of his coffin and then it's right in front of him? :?

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Postby EvaCub » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:26 am

Sachiel_13 wrote:I didn't like what they did with her mask in the video. It just doesn't fit her to have a Sachi mask. They should've stuck with the SEELE mask.

I like the seele Mask too on Lilithif it even is lilith, but the Sachi mask looks creepily misplaced which adds to the wierdness
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:47 pm

The bit about Misato giving Shinji a pep talk is something I personally translated a while back along with some other scenes, still, it's nice to have all of that scene. ^_^


Anyway, my friend who's actually from Japan and went there during the Winter break (her brother's really into Evangelion and she was able to get me a map of Akibahara (I think, could be remembering the place wrong) as well as a UCC can with Shin-chan on it. ^_^) said that Rebuild 1.0 will be out on (Japanese) DVD in March. (She also said she plans on ordering it once it's out.)

Anyway, I think that's not too bad waiting-wise (for those of us who want to see the whole film and not just it in parts ;)) It was in theaters for about 4 months and only about 2-3 months later is when it's released...
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Postby universalperson » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:37 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:The bit about Misato giving Shinji a pep talk is something I personally translated a while back along with some other scenes, still, it's nice to have all of that scene. ^_^


Anyway, my friend who's actually from Japan and went there during the Winter break (her brother's really into Evangelion and she was able to get me a map of Akibahara (I think, could be remembering the place wrong) as well as a UCC can with Shin-chan on it. ^_^) said that Rebuild 1.0 will be out on (Japanese) DVD in March. (She also said she plans on ordering it once it's out.)

Anyway, I think that's not too bad waiting-wise (for those of us who want to see the whole film and not just it in parts ;)) It was in theaters for about 4 months and only about 2-3 months later is when it's released...


It does mean we'll have to wait a while before 2.0...unless they put more tailers on the DVD...
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Postby EvaCub » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:17 pm

...which would be Awesome
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Postby Ornette » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:00 pm

universalperson wrote:It does mean we'll have to wait a while before 2.0...unless they put more tailers on the DVD...

I'm sure we'll see online trailers at the usual places.

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Postby wut_is_a_eva_lol » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:31 pm

After watching the camrip, was anybody as disappointed as I was by the inclusion of Misato's screaming scene (you know, the one where Pen-pen is first introduced)? I'll try to give you an idea of the extent of my disappointment to use as a reference in your responses.



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Postby Wevangeliwon » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:27 pm

March?

Well, good enough. I was hoping February, but I am happy to wait that much longer. I wonder how many times I will be watching the full rip until then.

I will hopefully post a review later.

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Postby The Goose » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:51 pm

Now that I've seen the enough of the film to understand whats going on, I can say that I liked it. My favorite part, taken out of my pairing of RxS, was when Shinji offered his hand to Rei, so that he could help her out of the Eva. Though, that look Shinji gave Rei after she smiled seemed to imply interest in her. But, I think I might be looking into it too hard.

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Postby Machinehead » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:55 pm

pikadourei wrote:Spoiler:
Where does the moon Giant come from, it's nowhere to be seen untill Kaworu steps out of his coffin and then it's right in front of him? :?


This might have been the single greatest moment of the movie.

Because my head literally exploded.

WHO is that? I mean, the only conclusion I can reach is Adam. Is Kaji going to travel to the moon? XD
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