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Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition"). The final instalment made its debut in Japan on March 8, 2021.

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Re: Rebuild

Postby Millions Livio » Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:49 pm

Shawn Dudley wrote:From reading the Japanese text and everything else I've seen, it looks like ReBuild will be a top-to-bottom remake. I think some are looking at something like Death, where they take the existing footage and dress it up a bit, but I think that this will be much more extensive than that.

I think part of what's driving is this that GAINAX wants the capital to make the live action movie, and what better way of getting that then making $$$ from new EVA. I also think that there's been a lot of progress in the technical arena since EVA came out, and now you've got Gonzo and I.G. coming out with all this 2D/3D stuff. So the folks at GAINAX are looking at that and saying "hey that's cool, what if we did this with EVA?". Add to the fact that Anno wants to get back into anime and what better way than this.

There's also the issue that the original voice cast isn't getting any younger, and if there's going to be any new EVA, it has to be done with Megumi and Kotono, while they're still willing and able to do it.

Some have suggested that ReBuild is a prequel or side story (like Iron Maiden). I'd suggest that it's really going to be a streamlined version of the main storyline, more straightforward and succinct. In short, the story will be a lot like Sadamoto's manga. Which would not be a bad thing.
Interesting indeed, thanks for the insight.

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Postby geishaboy » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:17 am

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Did you use Babelfish for that or translate yourself?

I used a different translator: [url]http://www.amikai.com/demo.jsp[/url]
Because I didn't really understand what it was saying.

Yes I know it's all messed up, sorry about that. I thought that by posting this you could get an idea of what the article is about. Hopefully, someone will make a better translation.
I don't have a problem with sequels, my problem is when they just plain suck and don't add anything new or orginal to the story.

I agree with you.


Man I need to come on to these forums more often

Anyway, I rustled up a translation, wich I doubt is very good. I will ask my Japanese professor if he can proof read it for me and hopefully getback in the next few days with a near perfect translation

anyway

Now, 11 years since the original broadcasting in 1995, new installments of "The Neon Genesis Evangelion" are to be made
The new installments that will be produced under the name "Rebuild of Evangelion (tentative title)" wich will be a theatrical release based on the television series and will be created with the supervision of director Hideko Anno, who has intends to call it "the old century edition" and will contain never before seen material. It has been estimated that the production composition, wich serves as all 4 installments will be released to the public in the form of 3 theatrical releases, from early summer 2007 to early summer 2008.


■  "Rebuild of Evangelion:01" (Tentative title)
Tokyu early summer 2007 road show*

 ■  "Rebuild of Evangelion:02" (Tentative title)
Spring 2008 nation wide road show*


→ The first and second installments will use refined aspects of the original television series and the new animations will make full use of 3DCG and the latest digital technology. The story line will include completely new elements and characters, and is planned to have 90 minutes of completely new material


 ■ "Rebuild of Evangelion: 03 and 04" (Tentative title) (Two part relese)
(The two part release, concluding installment will be a completely new production)
National Shibuya Tokyu early summer 2008 road show*


→ The latter part will consist of 80% new scenes and setup. The final part will not follow on from the the television or movies 25th and 26th storys, it will be come a completely new production with a completely new ending. It is planned that the final conclusion will open to the public as a 90 minute theatrical release


.....For 11 years Evangelion has been causing controversy, and finally the conclusion is here!







*I'm not really sure what the sentances are refering to, if you can shine some light on it I would love to know

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Postby MaggotMaster » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:31 am

In Rebuild Shinji is gonna be a stereotypical member of american black youth and listen to rap and wish to grow up to kill dem hoes for bling, or something like that.

Asuka, being german, will be a neo-nazi skinhead and want Shinji dead.

Rei will represent the proletarian masses or something.
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Postby Defectron » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:47 am

Since their trying to make this a dumbed down eva of sorts, I wonder if the new end will have 3rd impact and instrumentality in it or if they'll try to find a way around that.
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Postby Ornette » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:51 pm

Defectron wrote:Since their trying to make this a dumbed down eva of sorts, I wonder if the new end will have 3rd impact and instrumentality in it or if they'll try to find a way around that.

I dont think it would be eva without instrumentality.

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Postby Millions Livio » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:55 pm

I can slightly understand them making it a bit easier to understand (kind of how the dub made it slightly easier to grasp some of the dialog due to the "water down" of the dialog itself.). However I really hope you keep EVA what it is at the core, keep the depth, and not ruin it by making it as straightforward and "soulless" as other animes.

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Postby Shawn Dudley » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:57 pm

→ The first and second installments will use refined aspects of the original television series and the new animations will make full use of 3DCG and the latest digital technology. The story line will include completely new elements and characters, and is planned to have 90 minutes of completely new material


Seeing the part about "completely new elements and characters," now what I'm curious about wheither or not that means "remake" or "side story"? The first and second installments of ReBuild are supposed to be 90 minutes each, but does that mean 90 minutes of new material EACH movie, or 90 minutes of new materal spliced into 180 minutes of film time (for 2 movies).

The part about new charaters make it even more confusing, and possibly that they are considering covering some parts of the story that take place outside of NERV in Japan (NERV-2, anyone?). That would seem to contradict the idea that is a straight remake.
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Re: ReBuild

Postby bp32 » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:00 pm

Shawn Dudley wrote:
→ The first and second installments will use refined aspects of the original television series and the new animations will make full use of 3DCG and the latest digital technology. The story line will include completely new elements and characters, and is planned to have 90 minutes of completely new material


Seeing the part about "completely new elements and characters," now what I'm curious about wheither or not that means "remake" or "side story"? The first and second installments of ReBuild are supposed to be 90 minutes each, but does that mean 90 minutes of new material EACH movie, or 90 minutes of new materal spliced into 180 minutes of film time (for 2 movies).


It sounded to me like the later--90 minutes of new material spliced into the 180 minutes between the first two movies.
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Postby Eternal Yamcha » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:03 pm

Since their trying to make this a dumbed down eva of sorts, I wonder if the new end will have 3rd impact and instrumentality in it or if they'll try to find a way around that.

I dont think it would be eva without instrumentality.

"Try NEW Neon Genesis Evangelion! Today! (Now with 87% less instrumentality*)"

* Surgeon General Warning: Instrumentality can potentially cause sudden blindness and deafness, serious welts and boils on skin, fourth degree burns, the end of humanity, impotency, hair loss, skin pigment loss, lowering house prices, death, rising gas prices, war, famine, people to combust and/or turn into a soupy like Tang sauce, lactation and in some rare cases, your pets to inexplicably de-evolve. Do not take Instrumentality if you're pregnant, wish to become pregnant, are an elderly citizen, child, disabled, if your wife is pregnant or if your name has more than one vowel in it.

...Anyways, we looking at 360 minutes of new mind-numbingly fun Evangelion footage? I'm up for it.

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Re: ReBuild

Postby geishaboy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:19 am

bp32 wrote:
Shawn Dudley wrote:
→ The first and second installments will use refined aspects of the original television series and the new animations will make full use of 3DCG and the latest digital technology. The story line will include completely new elements and characters, and is planned to have 90 minutes of completely new material


Seeing the part about "completely new elements and characters," now what I'm curious about wheither or not that means "remake" or "side story"? The first and second installments of ReBuild are supposed to be 90 minutes each, but does that mean 90 minutes of new material EACH movie, or 90 minutes of new materal spliced into 180 minutes of film time (for 2 movies).


It sounded to me like the later--90 minutes of new material spliced into the 180 minutes between the first two movies.


Yeah, thats pretty much what it said, sorry if my translation was hard to follow :oops:

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Postby Shawn Dudley » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:30 am

If they're splicing new material into the old one, that would seem to indicate this is "mostly" a remake, and not a side story - they're not going to do Iron Maiden or anything like that. I'm curious to see what sort of new characters they have in mind, however.
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Re: ReBuild

Postby bp32 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:38 am

Shawn Dudley wrote:If they're splicing new material into the old one, that would seem to indicate this is "mostly" a remake, and not a side story - they're not going to do Iron Maiden or anything like that. I'm curious to see what sort of new characters they have in mind, however.


4 movies totalling 270 minutes

First two will have 90 minutes of new material, which leaves 90 minutes for the last installment which will be 80% new material (which equals 72 minutes)--that gives us a grand total of 162 minutes of new material out of 270--60% will be new material (if the translation is correct and if the information is accurate)--so I don't think that equals "mostly" a remake (again, assuming everything is correct)...
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Postby Shin-seiki » Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:17 pm

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>>re-remastered with 5 seconds of never before seen special footage

elevator scene + 5 seconds

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Postby Reichu » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:28 pm

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Postby WES512 » Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:13 pm

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10-19-06 (9:29AM EDT)---- World Exclusive: Rebuild Of Evangelion Updates
Tonight we met up with Evangelion Producer Toshimichi Ootsuki in Akihabara. According to Ootsuki-san the "contents" for the "1st part" of the new Rebuild Of Evangelion movies is now complete. The animation staff is also very close to being fully assembled. Building on past hints (the cover image of the October, 2006 issue of Newtype Magazine) Kaworu Nagisa and Rei Ayanami will be central characters in this new story. The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.

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Postby cat42 » Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:29 pm

Wait a sec, so, Kaworu is going to be in class with them?

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Postby WES512 » Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:57 pm

Wait a sec, so, Kaworu is going to be in class with them?

I feel like Girlfriend of Steel 2 is been animated.

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Postby cat42 » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:07 pm

Not necessarily, but it does seem a bit strange...

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Postby Shawn Dudley » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:10 pm

Seeing Kawaru show up earlier in the story is not that much of a surprise, given that he's a very popular character among Japanese EVA fans - one episode is just not enough for him. Also, if the "clue" is the inside spread in the Oct '06 NewType, then it's clear that they're going to re-focus the story on all of the four Children (sorry, Toji).

I think "remake" here means that they're re-working the original story extensively (a la Tenchi Muyo). I wouldn't expect a straight re-telling of the original EVA series with better graphics, there'd be almost no point in that. Anno probably feels he could have done things much better in retrospect, and sees this as his chance.

I'm pretty sure it won't be GFOS, but given the popularity of those games I'd expect more of the "parings" to come up in ReBuild than were in the original.
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Postby cat42 » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:33 pm

Well, I personally would love to see more Kaworu, and I'd like to know more about Rei, and Anno is at the helm more or less...

I think it'll probably be good. I must admit though, I am happy to see that it won't be done in the style of the original, because it hopefully means we'll be seeing something more experimental than more of the same, especially since this is to be the antithesis of what anime post Eva is...

Also, a bit of hope in my mind, is how the feel of Die Buster changed after Anno came aboard. I'm not hoping for something like that, but it at least gives me a clue that the man can do (semi)serious stuff still. I mean, what was the last serious thing prior? Shiki-Jitsu?


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