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Postby Xard » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:25 pm

View Original PostReckoner wrote:So if there is a 14 year time skip, but they all still look like 14 year olds... What narrative purpose does this even serve? Is Asuka going to all of a sudden be so much wiser (lol)?


Who knows. Perhaps Anno is going all loldeep metacommentary on otakudom obsession on teenage bishoujos again? :D

Or maybe, just maybe, with all this curse of eva thing and unaging Eva pilots they're FINALLY attempting to do something with the whole "huurrr durr only 14 year olds can pilot Eva" that got NEVER explained properly in NGE, plausible fanwank about chambers of guf and being born after second impact aside (then again I could swear some of Shinji's classmates were born before)

As long as curse of Eva doesn't remain simple plot device to let the girls have the same looks as always I consider this clear improvement on NGE's handling.


View Original PostReckoner wrote:I just have no idea why a skip of this magnitude is even needed if it serves absolutely no #%(*ing purpose.


Well I wonder. Maybe it becomes apparent in the film? Even based on limited info we now have one should be obvious: You don't kickup and build apparently pretty big organization like Will-E (why the stupid - is there anyway) in matter of months.

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Postby Ynnead » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:29 pm

View Original PostReckoner wrote:So if there is a 14 year time skip, but they all still look like 14 year olds... What narrative purpose does this even serve? Is Asuka going to all of a sudden be so much wiser (lol)?

So they could introduce new technology like ships from Last Exile?

.....

I just have no idea why a skip of this magnitude is even needed if it serves absolutely no #%(*ing purpose.

Well to be fair, besides the pilots it's clear most of the other staff has aged. I mean look at Touji's sister, she went from this
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to older than Shinji in the span of days from his prespective, if he sees his friends again they will be full grown adults while he is stuck. Asuka may not look like one but she may be older emotionally (not wiser necessary) although most of her images make her look vaguely dead inside (can't blame her).

Point is even if the other pilots don't look it, a lot has changed for Shinji in the blink of an eye.

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Postby Electric Sachiel » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:32 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:Well I wonder. Maybe it becomes apparent in the film? Even based on limited info we now have one should be obvious: You don't kickup and build apparently pretty big organization like Will-E (why the stupid - is there anyway) in matter of months.

Etc.


Not to mention you dont build a few extra Evas in just a matter of months. The bigger question though is how did the world survive for 14 years without triggering 4th impact or just nuking the planet to bits through war and shit? I'm surprised that most of the original cast survived during what should have been a very chaotic 14 years....

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Postby Clover » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:32 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:Will-E
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Postby NemZ » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:39 pm

It's pronounced 'Wily'. Dr. Wily.
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Postby Xard » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:39 pm

View Original PostElectric Sachiel wrote:Not to mention you dont build a few extra Evas in just a matter of months. The bigger question though is how did the world survive for 14 years without triggering 4th impact or just nuking the planet to bits through war and shit? I'm surprised that most of the original cast survived during what should have been a very chaotic 14 years....


Angels went dormant for similar time period after 2nd Impact too. They have some odd habits

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Postby Reckoner » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:39 pm

View Original PostYnnead wrote:Well to be fair, besides the pilots it's clear most of the other staff has aged. I mean look at Touji's sister, she went from this
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to older than Shinji in the span of days from his prespective, if he sees his friends again they will be full grown adults while he is stuck. Asuka may not look like one but she may be older emotionally (not wiser necessary) although most of her images make her look vaguely dead inside (can't blame her).

Point is even if the other pilots don't look it, a lot has changed for Shinji in the blink of an eye.

View Original PostXard wrote:Well I wonder. Maybe it becomes apparent in the film? Even based on limited info we now have one should be obvious: You don't kickup and build apparently pretty big organization like Will-E (why the stupid - is there anyway) in matter of months.

Etc.


So to introduce even more complicating elements to the general plot that in no way enhance the core cast of the show...

Which again I'll ask, how does this help the narrative? 2.0 is a rushed film that didn't give nearly enough attention to everything it needed to. Their solution is to make the setting even more cumbersome to handle and make the cast even bigger?

I'm sorry, not trying to be rude here, just a bit in utter disbelief...
Anno has let us all down.

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Postby StratoSakuya...AF » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:41 pm

Well I wonder. Maybe it becomes apparent in the film? Even based on limited info we now have one should be obvious: You don't kickup and build apparently pretty big organization like Will-E (why the stupid - is there anyway) in matter of months.

Etc.



Not to mention you dont build a few extra Evas in just a matter of months. The bigger question though is how did the world survive for 14 years without triggering 4th impact or just nuking the planet to bits through war and shit? I'm surprised that most of the original cast survived during what should have been a very chaotic 14 years....


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Postby Lagann » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:44 pm

To everyone getting mad about 3.0, remember 2.0 had everyone getting upset too. About a month later when everyone had got all the facts and seen it in context it calmed down. I'm sure Mass Produced Evas looked weird to people before EoE came out.
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Postby Chuckman » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:45 pm

View Original PostStratoSakuya...AF wrote:IPEA and the Harpies send us their regards.


I read this as Ikea and the Herpes.

A quart of 4.0 will be Misato furniture shopping for her new apartment.

Also, an important question. What the fuck happens to Pen Pen?
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Postby classified-zerogoki » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:47 pm

Hikari could get him like in the original series.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:48 pm

Let's see...

Sumire Nagara = Light cruiser Nagara, Nagumo's flagship after Akagi was bombed and set afire during the Battle of Midway.

Midori Kitakami = Light cruiser Kitakami, with its terrifying battery of 32 torpedo tubes (any battleship squadron on the wrong end of this ship at night, without radar, would be in for hell)

Hideki Tama = Light cruiser Tama, another World War Two era cruiser.

So now the light cruisers have joined up the -nami destroyers? At least his naming scheme is consistent in the midst of this nonsense!
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Postby Darkwing » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:48 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:I read this as Ikea and the Herpes.

A quart of 4.0 will be Misato furniture shopping for her new apartment.

Also, an important question. What the fuck happens to Pen Pen?


No Pen Pen? No wonder things are going to crap. Soon as he dissappears it all goes to hell.
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Postby Clover » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:49 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:Also, an important question. What the fuck happens to Pen Pen?

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Postby Chuckman » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:49 pm

28 year old Asuka is mentally Pen-Pen, finally able to consummate love with Shinji. Calling it now.
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Postby shinji_ryoji_89 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:50 pm

I've kamikazed (as I like to call it) through this thread, not dwelling on any spoilers (Although there are certain things that this movie was going to do regardless and I knew it) if I spot them. And so far, the one that REALLY has me scratching my head is: So everyone has become old except Shinji? WTF is this?! Dragon Ball GT?! That sounds as dumb as a screendoor in a submarine. I'm still hyped about seeing this. I'm not saying it's good or bad yet, but it's nice to know some filmmakers can push their imagination to the point of insanity and probably stupidity as Anno and co. have, at least they are being creative.

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Postby Ynnead » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:50 pm

View Original PostLagann wrote:To everyone getting mad about 3.0, remember 2.0 had everyone getting upset too. About a month later when everyone had got all the facts and seen it in context it calmed down. I'm sure Mass Produced Evas looked weird to people before EoE came out.
Of course I know a lot of people who aren't fans of 2.0, but yeah we're going from a brief summary (an entire angel fight is offhanded mentioned) so I get the feeling a lot of these things will make much more sense when we seem them in context, also I would argue 2.0's problem was that pretty much anything new (Mari for example) was given only a little screen time peppered through out the movie, if everything this movie introduces is given better screen time it can pull it off no problem

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Postby Lagann » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:54 pm

By the way, does the middle part of the Wunder ship look like the third angel to anybody else?
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Postby Shinoyami65 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:56 pm

Will we see any 'traditional' Angels besides the mechanical Angel in space (Funniel)? The Angels have had 14 years to rest up and do some damage, so I'm hoping 3.0 won't deviate from action and monster design with all the soul-searchy stuff and timeskip shit. I also hope they give us more info on Lilith, the Adams, and the Key of Nebudchanezzar.

On another note, any pics of 14-years-later Misato?
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Postby cyharding » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:59 pm

Going through this thread off and on throughout the day, there are some details that are interesting and some details that make me go "huh?" but I'm going to need a more detailed synopsis before I can make a conclusion. All I know for sure is the following two things.

1. Whether you liked what we know about the movie or you don't, this should cement Anno's status as a magnificent bastard.

2. That this day, November 16 2012, will be remembered as the day Evageeks collective brain broke.


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