Q Trailers Thread (was: Q trailer on new Nico Nico)

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition"). The final instalment made its debut in Japan on March 8, 2021.

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Postby riffraff11235 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:05 pm

View Original PostNonoriri wrote:Image

Image

The arm parts on this different looking plugsuit have both a blue thing and an orange thing that continues on to the chest area. Green triangles, no green stripe on the suit itself. Hmm

What the hell is this thing.


Yeah, that thing looks interesting. Maybe they finally got around to repairing Asuka's plugsuit and decided to do something different? Maybe it has to do with Eva-02's restructuring as well.

Two questions:
1. Where do you guys go for screencaps of the trailer?
2. Where did you find those gifs?
Or have you guys been making/posting these yourselves?
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Postby NAveryW » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:05 pm

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:He's upset because he can't play the piano.
Of course he can!
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Postby esselfortium » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:06 pm

View Original PostJornophelanthas wrote:[wild speculation]
Perhaps both her arms were amputated as a result of injuries sustained during the "space battle" where she is seen in the first outfit, and what we see is a plug suit prosthetic that allows her to move the Evangelion's arms without arms of her own?
Some people actually have a fetish for missing limbs.
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Well, that's creepy, Jorno. I'd hope that even NME's production staff has enough taste that something such as that wouldn't be written as fetish porn.

If it would be in-character at all for this staff to have such a major life-ruining event for any of its characters be decided primarily by fetish appeal, I think it would probably be about time we all looked elsewhere for better movies. Even I don't think they'd do something quite so disgusting.
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Postby Nonoriri » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:06 pm

View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:Yeah, that thing looks interesting. Maybe they finally got around to repairing Asuka's plugsuit and decided to do something different? Maybe it has to do with Eva-02's restructuring as well.

Two questions:
1. Where do you guys go for screencaps of the trailer?
2. Where did you find those gifs?
Or have you guys been making/posting these yourselves?


They're in a thread on /a/.

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Postby Jornophelanthas » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:09 pm

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:Well, that's creepy, Jorno. I'd hope that even NME's production staff has enough taste that something such as that wouldn't be written as fetish porn.

It was meant as a tongue-in-cheek comment. Plus, Asuka would have to be in a rather awkward posture in that screenshot for her arms to not be visible.
The shot would work if she holds her arms straight back, however. Or if they are tied behind her back. Or if she is wearing a straitjacket.

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Postby Knuckles » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:13 pm

Great... I can honestly say I wasn't expecting Shinji/Kaworu to take up THAT good a portion of the movie, but looks like that's what's happening.


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Postby riffraff11235 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:17 pm

View Original PostNonoriri wrote:They're in a thread on /a/.


[url]http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/73167518/[/url]

Here is (what I believe to be) the aforementioned thread, if anyone is interested.
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:17 pm

It's quite obvious from the footage that Shinji is mentally breaking down. I was worried that he was becoming too much of a bad ass. This is the Evangelion I know and love.
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Postby Nonoriri » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:32 pm

[url]http://plonq.org/up/herp.jpg[/url]

[url]http://plonq.org/up/%5Bhd%5D_q_1080p_-_youtube.mp4_snapshot_00.10_%5B2011.09.18_05.34.27%5D.jpg[/url]

Asuka got derped in the last 14 months. :(

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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:45 pm

View Original PostNonoriri wrote:[url]http://plonq.org/up/herp.jpg[/url]

[url]http://plonq.org/up/%5Bhd%5D_q_1080p_-_youtube.mp4_snapshot_00.10_%5B2011.09.18_05.34.27%5D.jpg[/url]

Asuka got derped in the last 14 months. :(

I really don't see the problem.... How did she get derped?
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Postby riffraff11235 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:49 pm

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:I really don't see the problem.... How did she get derped?


Yeah, I'm with Ian. Where be the derp?

Also, if Asuka is piloting the rebuilt Unit-02 Beta, which Eva is Mari piloting in the trailer...?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:50 pm

Saw the preview. I will now spend the rest of the day incoherently shouting.

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Postby Nonoriri » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:51 pm

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:I really don't see the problem.... How did she get derped?


The frame on top is noticeably less detailed and generally not very good looking, the frame on the bottom is noticeably more detailed, with softer coloring and less strange (but not say "bad") looking shading. Of course the difference in expression makes her new look appear worse to me in general.

Though I'm still undecided as to whether or not the newly lit thus differently shaded look is better or worse.

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Postby Xard » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:07 pm

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:I did just notice that when watching again. Classy as always, Anno.


It's kind of silly given how perflat Asuka is.

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:I knew it! I knew it was going to be a two hour concert of Kaworu and Shinji!


they're going to make music like pico and chico at tokyo tower


btw I think this topic should be renamed to include remark about new trailer.

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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:11 pm

View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:1. Where do you guys go for screencaps of the trailer?

It's just an mp4 video, if you download it you can make screenshots just like with any other video. Talking about it, Nicovideo finally gave me the 720p video, I'll share it for everyone else before it enters into economy mode again:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mqk252itp16c5jc
View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:Or have you guys been making/posting these yourselves?

I made this one myself:

I made a 24 bit APNG too but apparently Picasa detects and discards it as dangerous Firefox-shit. [edit]I just uploaded it on image bam instead, fuck Google and their antagonism against legit PNG files[/edit]. Moved to https://i.imgur.com/pwJOtXr.png

EDIT: some genius (nicovideo now accepts translations submitted by users) had the nice idea of translating the video's title as Rebuild of Evangelion: Q - Trailer NicoNico version...
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:14 pm

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:I did just notice that when watching again. Classy as always, Anno.

Classier still are those who decide not to pay attention to Asuka's battle-scarred facial expressions just to stare at boobs. Seriously guys, they're not even fully in frame in half the shot.

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Postby riffraff11235 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:15 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:It's just an mp4 video, if you download it you can make screenshots just like with any other video. Talking about it, Nicovideo finally gave me the 720p video, I'll share it for everyone else before it enters into economy mode again:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mqk252itp16c5jc

I made this one myself:
SPOILER: Show

I made a 24 bit APNG too but apparently Picasa detects and discards it as dangerous Firefox-shit.


Thanks for the HQ video, man. That gif looks great, as well.
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Postby Nonoriri » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:23 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Classier still are those who decide not to pay attention to Asuka's battle-scarred facial expressions just to stare at boobs. Seriously guys, they're not even fully in frame in half the shot.


When we're specifically noting the difference in framing between two different trailers hand-waving away the difference doesn't help.

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Postby Kendrix » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:31 pm

View Original PostONIAgent150 wrote: Also, I think this theory of Rei II being stuck inside the EVA is a fascinating one.


From the trailer, the idea that Rei II doesn't get saved and the next clone gets decanted seems plausible enough, but if you ask me, it would be a total copout.
The CR confirmed that the main purpose of the 2.X finale was to make things different/send them off the rails and that "What if Rei lives"/"rescue from the Underworld" was really the decision that was taken here, not other possible ideas that could have resulted in what we saw like, say, "Let's have something TI-ish surprisingly early" or "Let's end the movie with a cliffhander where Shinji does something stupid".

If they had just killed her when it was due, then, okay, we were expecting that, but having her survive just to technically kill her off right afterwards? Doesn't that feel, dunno, cheap? Like backpedalling, "§no we wanna follow our old establishes plotline where Rei kicks it after all, sorry we were trolling you for cheap "Ah" and "ohs"?" pleaso no.
If you make a change, stick to it and follow the consequences.

Also, it is only really "fascinating" when you consider Rei a humanoid plot device because, "Ooooh, Soul mechanics! Cloning!"
But from a storytelling perspective, these are the handwavings you use as tools to get to "the fun part", the meat of the characters - Even when Rei was killed off in the original, it was setup as a tragedy and there was a notion of her personal character arc comming to "full circle", even when her death was fully intended to be sudden.
If she's stuck in EVA 01, she won't do anyrthing anymore besides cryptic talk , you'd see nothing more of the very dynamic evolution of her personality, her increasingly independent actions and how she feels about her situation as an artificial being which has been at the heart of the movies so far.
Frankly, it would be throwing away a perfectly good character with tons of potential. The handvave is there in order to tell the character stories (which are metaphors for real life things, anyway) not the other way around. If Rei II ceases to be portayable as an analogon to a real life socially akward girl, there's no point in having her at all.

That said, Rei II being killed and subsequently replaced halfway into Q or dying at the climax of "Final" (the latter being, realistically speaking, way more likely than any happy end) with proper completion of her character arc beforehand is a very different story and definitely likely.
But her surviving has to make an impact on the story first, else, there's no point.

I don't want Sadamoto's Harpy scene (Asuka survives but its all the same wether she's there or not) all over again.
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Postby riffraff11235 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:33 pm

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[EvaGeeks is a] Bunch of idiots mostly. Can't see a damned thing coming when it comes to Evangelion. For some reason, they always think the worst when it comes to Rei too, this being another example.

How does Rei's clothes and stuff laying besides a cardboard box enforce that, again? Because they are gathering up her belongings? Well then they wouldn't do such a sloppy job. Rei herself however, she throws her clothes in the general direction of something and pick them up later, regardless of her being Rei II or III at the moment. She's not known for being tidy.

I might have missed something though, but if you're one of those evageeks fags, make a post there telling them to shove it.


Found this on that /a/ thread. I don't support what this guy is saying at all, and I don't see where he's coming from with the "they always think the worst when it comes to Rei" line. I haven't been a member here very long, so am I missing something? I always thought there was a good mix of varying opinions on almost everything on EGF.
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