Why don't Full Metal Alchemist and God of War get as much ha

[TehDonutKing]

te as Twilight?

[Killer Bee]

As far as I know, Edward Elric never ate through somebody's uterus.

[Sachi]

Because Fullmetal Alchemist is actually good. Can't speak for God of War.

[Mr. Tines]

Because the correct anime to compare with Twilight would be Bakemonogatari

[Eva 02]

Fullmetal Alchemist definitely deserves the hate that Twilight has diligently earned. God of War went hard like a mo fucka, so it does not. Twilight does suck, I think that much we all can agree on. I mean these kids are guarded better than Presidents before Obama - it's just incomprehensible.

[Oz]

Because the correct anime to compare with Twilight would be Bakemonogatari

4/10

[carla]

i really don't see how twilight and fullmetal alchemist are comparable.

[Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion]

...............Why are we comparing a shonen anime and an ultra-violent sony game series to a vampire wannabe franchise?

[BrikHaus]

Twilight is beloved by fat, virgin, pubescent girls.

Fullmetal Alchemist and God of War are beloved by fat, virgin, pubescent boys.

Seems like an accurate comparison could be made.

[Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion]

Why compare manly stuff to girly stuff?

[TehDonutKing]

My point was that Twilight is criticised as an insult to Vampiric lore.

Now compare the FMA “alchemists” to real life alchemy.
Than compare God of War to Greek mythology.

[Defectron]

Because the correct anime to compare with Twilight would be Bakemonogatari

NO

a better anime to use would be inuyasha or code geass as the twilight of the anime world.

My point was that Twilight is criticised as an insult to Vampiric lore.

Now compare the FMA “alchemists” to real life alchemy.
Than compare God of War to Greek mythology.

While it is true some people talk about that I really dont think that's one of the big things that most twilight haters have going against it as much as it is elements of twilights story. It's actually somewhat rare something portrayed in the media based on myth or legend is portrayed accurate to its source. For example xena butchered its source material about ten times worse then twilight could even hope to.

[Heromaster111]

Why compare manly stuff to girly stuff?

Are you calling FMA manly? lolwut.

[Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion]

Are you calling FMA manly? lolwut.

Not really, it's mostly God of War.

Than compare God of War to Greek mythology.

What? God of War does not insult Greek lore, if anything it keeps it in brutally honest good faith (pun intended). Only real thing you can complain about is that "oh there is only one minotaur/three real gorgons" or "gorgons don't look like that! nah!"

[carla]

My point was that Twilight is criticised as an insult to Vampiric lore.

true. it's also criticised even harder for being generally considered horrible writing, double-standards and elevating values that are generally considered "negative" for the sake of "love," setting feminism back about 50 years, being completely anvil-tastic, characters that are generally considered one-dimensional/weak/whiny/exceedingly wangsty/mary-sueish... yes, there was a lot of complaining initially about the ~sparkly~ vampires, but that's the least of the series' problems atm.

that said, though, you have a point: it is true that there was backlash because some people consider it an insult to vampiric lore. with alchemy, for example, the topic is much more obscure than vampiric lore in the sense that less people know about it. your average joe usually knows of alchemy as "oh, that's those crazies who were trying to turn metal into gold," and most of what they know about the philospher's stone, they learned from harry potter. vampires, however, have been a staple in books and in hollywood for a long while, and their characterization has been very consistent through the years. people are used to seeing that characterization, and new takes on it are seen as strange. or, in the case of the ~sparkles~, girly.

also, vampiric lore is a big part of goth culture (correct me if i'm wrong here, admittedly i don't know much about this stuff); alchemy is also studied by occultists and such, but pop culture hasn't brought occultism or any alchemy-related themes to light as much as it has goth culture.

greek myth, on the other hand, has been in the average joe's mind for a while. it probably was around since before vampiric lore has, and should arguably have more of an impact in popular culture. however, i think greek myth is so big and so varied that people have gotten used to the idea that, well, novels and movies and videogames are going to get it wrong one way or another. so in that sense, most of us enthusiasts are more inclined to roll our eyes at the "new takes on the myth" than we are to be offended (like kratos being able to kill ares. shyeah, right ).

also, where greek myth is more of an field of academics, goth is a lifestyle. there isn't an associated lifestyle to greek myth as goth culture is to vampiric lore and such. if someone gets greek myth "wrong," it's not an insult to a whole community's way of life-- just to enthusiasts and scholars who have a passion for the topic, but don't necessarily see characters in greek myth as role models to emulate.

and, if you add to this the fact that most people consider hagaren and god of war infinitely better written than twilight, well...

[oOoOoOo]

The things being compared are pretty arbitrary, but...

Twilight is beloved by fat, virgin, pubescent girls.

Fullmetal Alchemist and God of War are beloved by fat, virgin, pubescent boys.

...House of Bricks is getting at the heart of the matter. I'm not familiar with Alchemist, but it is shonen. Twilight is basically shojo (comparable to Vampire Knight). One is for young boys and one is for young girls.

Twilight is aimed at girls who haven't read Anne Rice, who haven't already binged on a thousand harlequin romance novels. For these girls, Twilight is pretty fucking impressive. It does what it sets out to do. But a lot of guys hate on it because it has nothing to do with boyish concerns about achieving the biggest dick through martial arts training. Twilight is about the fears and worries associated with the loss of female virginity. Saying it is about vampires is like saying Evangelion is about robots.

Like, Naruto is Twilight for boys. Dragon Ball Z is Twilight for boys. And so on. Various superhero movies are just as retarded as Twilight, but you don't see the same level of frothing rage directed at them. It is about demographics. We're not talking about universal art that transcends genre. We're talking about very specific stuff.

And the hate for Twilight is not much different than the hate I've seen girls direct at Dungeons and Dragons-type stuff, back in the day. "Haha, you virgin nerds and your escapist fantasy bullshit where you pretend to be warriors hahahahaha!!!!"

[Mr. Tines]

Twilight is about the fears and worries associated with the loss of female virginity.

But vampires are always about the (haemo)sexuality.

@Oz, Defectron
So, you're saying that Bake doesn't have a raging cacophony of fans and haters exactly like Twilight does?

[Killer Bee]

Twilight is about the fears and worries associated with the loss of female virginity.

Haha, no. I'm pretty sure it's about being a "Good Mormon" and not having sex before you get married or else you burn in Hell. It's also completely sexist towards women, for a multitude of reasons that are well known and need not be repeated in this post. Sorry O-chan, but I can't stand to hear people defend Twilight.

Saying it is about vampires is like saying Evangelion is about robots

I agree with this, though. Twilight is about adhering to the Mormon religion, just like Evangelion is about... whatever the hell it's about. Rei's boobs?

...boyish concerns about achieving the biggest dick through martial arts training.

I can personally confirm that martial arts training will not increase your dick size.

[Clover]

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[TehDonutKing]

I pretty much was talking about how weak the gods are, nd the fact that Athena, Hades, and I think Hephaestus are antagonists, despite the fact that those three and Artemis are the only gods that weren't jerkasses.

And Kratos killed Aphrodite, meaning that the asshat doomed everyone to ETERNAL BARRENESS.

And even a Neji Hyuuga/Light Yagami/Mello/Ares/Zeus/Crash of the Titans era Tiny the Tiger/Al Khan/Uwe Boll/That dickface who goes two miles per hour on the satanblessed interstate/Kiel hybrid would be more likeable than frakking Kratos.

And Athena is the who was fated to kill Zeus.