Strange Visual Errors in 2.22

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Strange Visual Errors in 2.22 (Spoilers, Lots of Images)

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Postby NAveryW » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:59 pm

The thing about making a film that encourages people to go through frame-by-frame with secret nipples and creepy faces is that people will end up noticing countless little animation errors. Here are some of the weirder ones that I've found. They shouldn't be attributed to laziness, considering over a thousand shots were changed between 2.0 and 2.22, but I guess just to oversight.

First, when Unit 05 stabs the Third Angel's entry plug, or dummy plug, or whatever kind of plug it is, the plug disappears... but the plug's shadow remains.
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The plug is visible again in the next shot:
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Later on, at the aquarium, the fish are always swimming along in the background. Always, that is, except in this one shot (cropped to emphasize fish):
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Strangely, the only shot in which the fish are completely motionless is the longest held shot at the picnic in which the fish are visible.

When Asuka is cooking a meal for Shinji Hikari, a sign is visible with text that doesn't quite know where to stop.
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Something's horribly wrong with these birds... can you tell what it is?
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THEY DON'T HAVE BEAKS!

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Postby sephirotic » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:21 pm

A small contribution from me:

I found two scenes where the desks reflex are considerably off than the rest.

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also i know it isnpt the RoE but i remembered this:

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anyone ever saw this before?
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Postby NAveryW » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:25 pm

What looks wrong about the reflections?

...Or the EoE shot?

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Postby NatTheWriter » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:31 pm

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:What looks wrong about the reflections?

...Or the EoE shot?


Because of the schoolgirl and desk's positioning, the reflection should probably be at some sort of angle.

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Postby EdZ » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:32 pm

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:...Or the EoE shot?
Smoke cel placed behind car cel instead of in front.
THEY DON'T HAVE BEAKS!
A lot of birds have very small beaks. That, or they're simply looking downwards so they don't appear in the silhouette.

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Postby NAveryW » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:43 pm

View Original PostNatTheWriter wrote:Because of the schoolgirl and desk's positioning, the reflection should probably be at some sort of angle.
Reflections don't work that way.
View Original PostEdZ wrote:Smoke cel placed behind car cel instead of in front.
Ah.
View Original PostEdZ wrote:A lot of birds have very small beaks. That, or they're simply looking downwards so they don't appear in the silhouette.
Either every bird is looking in a different direction from the one in which he's flying or their beaks are so tiny as to not register in silhouette at all.

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Postby Yossarian » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:44 pm

They are really thorough in polishing those desks.

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Postby NatTheWriter » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:14 pm

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:Reflections don't work that way.


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Waiiiit...

-facepalm- >_< Gah, sorry. My bad. Although, seeing as the desk isn't positioned right under her (looks like it's a few feet away), it doesn't seem plausible for it to make a perfect mirror image.

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Postby sephirotic » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:19 pm

I suppose itll'be hard for some ppl to see how the angle of the reflex in the desks are off, ill make some sketchs later, im a little lazy now.
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Postby EdZ » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:43 am

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:Either every bird is looking in a different direction from the one in which he's flying or their beaks are so tiny as to not register in silhouette at all.
Gulls look downwards while feeding, e.g:
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What I'm more interested in is why seabirds still exist at all, with no ocean life to feed on.

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Postby sephirotic » Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:11 am

View Original PostEdZ wrote:Gulls look downwards while feeding, e.g:
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What I'm more interested in is why seabirds still exist at all, with no ocean life to feed on.


I agree, there is nothing wrong with the reflex of the birds.
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Postby Legendary » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:57 am

View Original PostEdZ wrote:What I'm more interested in is why seabirds still exist at all, with no ocean life to feed on.

There's enough trash around to feed birds for quite awhile. :D

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Postby Mr. Tines » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:51 pm

View Original PostEdZ wrote:why seabirds still exist at all, with no ocean life to feed on.
You've never seen flocks of gulls following the tractor when it's ploughing a field?
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Postby master_lloyd » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:01 pm

View Original PostLegendary wrote:There's enough trash around to feed birds for quite awhile. :D


Indeed, I've never seen a seagull eat a fish, only rubbish and the ice-creams of unsuspecting children.
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Postby NAveryW » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:45 pm

View Original Postsephirotic wrote:I agree, there is nothing wrong with the reflex of the birds.
The image given isn't from directly below. Seen from the angle at which the birds (which don't have the proportions of gulls anyway) are reflected in Mari's glasses, beaks should be visible.

...I can't believe I actually find this worth debating.

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Postby the_seventh_child » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:54 pm

You know, i do not really mind this thread much /though ok, i find it debating over birds-reflection a tad too much/ but why the "weird" in the title? Visual Errors in 2.22 should do it.
Or is it to attract moar or something?
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Postby NatTheWriter » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:00 pm

It's a worthy thread because colorful and shiny pictures.

Probably.

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Postby AuraTwilight » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:59 am

You guys, the bird silhouettes look vaguely like angels. C'mon.
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Postby NAveryW » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:47 am

View Original Postthe_seventh_child wrote:why the "weird" in the title?
The movie has a lot of errors that aren't weird, so I didn't bother posting them. Things like armor segments being colored wrong and off-model tween frames are no more absent than they are in any anime, but they're not really worth posting about.

Except maybe this one:
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Postby Legendary » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:44 am

KILL IT. KILL IT QUICKLY.


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