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Postby CtHuLhU » Sat May 29, 2010 8:33 am

Can ya see it too?

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Teh Rei!
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Teh eye!
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Postby Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion » Sat May 29, 2010 8:34 am

Teh Rei!

That's Bardiel actually. Not sure exactly what I'm supposed to see.
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Postby CtHuLhU » Sat May 29, 2010 8:39 am

I mean this.
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Postby qu4d » Sat May 29, 2010 8:49 am

i do see it. nice find.

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Postby Reichu » Sat May 29, 2010 9:26 am

Yeah, that is a nice find... Just what the hell is going on?

I don't know if it's supposed to be implying something about Bardiel, or something about Asuka. (The -nami conspiracy, anyone?) Or maybe even both. Very subtle and VERY suspicious, though...

I wonder if it's intentional that Asuka sees this creepy grinning Rei in the plug after her "smiling" comment.
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Postby the_seventh_child » Sat May 29, 2010 9:53 am

Oh shit, Asuka must have felt really lucky seeing that creepy face up that close. Dude.

But yeah, nice find. Did not really notice it. I tend to step away from overanalyzing sceencaps and stuff /yeah i know, have we met Eva?/ but it kind of pays off for 'amusing' things like this. Cool find.
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Postby NemZ » Sat May 29, 2010 10:19 am

...why assume that's Rei? Could just as easily be a creepy superdeformed Asuka, the same way all three children were confronted by copies of themselves when in communication with an angel in the series.
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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Sat May 29, 2010 10:37 am

I'm confused. I see the eye in the first pic, I don't think it's Rei though but what're we supposed to be seeing in the second pic?
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Postby SaltyJoe » Sat May 29, 2010 10:38 am

It would be nice to know which voice actress made the creepy giggles emitted by Bardiel.

And yeah, that eye is a nice find. Bravo!
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Postby ZapX » Sat May 29, 2010 10:41 am

PRPD: There's a circle around something and you ask what you're supposed to be seeing?

Those things forming the cross kind of look like maggots (maybe maggot Asuka is fresh in my mind). Awesome find, dude.
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Postby Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion » Sat May 29, 2010 10:50 am

It would be nice to know which voice actress made the creepy giggles emitted by Bardiel.

I wonder if that's going to have any effect on the angel genders.
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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Sat May 29, 2010 11:03 am

View Original PostZapX wrote:PRPD: There's a circle around something and you ask what you're supposed to be seeing?

I am aware of the circle. I guess what I should have asked was "What is that supposed to be?".
I'm just having a little hard time seeing at the moment.
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Postby NemZ » Sat May 29, 2010 11:05 am

Besides, look at the tip of her nose in 2nd pic... those needles are nowhere near her eyes. It's likely those are stabilizing rods to hold the fractured bits of her skull in place so that they set correctly.
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Postby EvaCub » Sat May 29, 2010 11:06 am

I dont understand
are we trying to point out that something happened to asukas eye (the reason she has an eye patch in the 3.0 teaser) and the nature of why?
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Postby Azathoth » Sat May 29, 2010 11:45 am

Definitely did not see the Reiface there.

Interesting to note that the Bardiel cross-pattern is emanating from where the right eye would be, rather than the left. Has anything ever happened to anyone's right eye in Eva before? It always seems to be the left; Rei's bandages, Soryu's lancing, Shikinami too by the looks of it...hell, even Mari's glasses only break the left lens, if I recall.
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Postby ZapX » Sat May 29, 2010 11:47 am

Rei's bandages are on her right eye. I'm pretty sure Mari's eye injury is the right side too.

Also, NemZ is right, those pins aren't in Asuka's eye.

I prefer /a/non's explanation.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sat May 29, 2010 11:52 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:Yeah, that is a nice find... Just what the hell is going on?

I don't know if it's supposed to be implying something about Bardiel, or something about Asuka. (The -nami conspiracy, anyone?) Or maybe even both. Very subtle and VERY suspicious, though...


This is as creepy as hell, and like you said, VERY suspicious. I suspect it's something about the -nami conspiracy that resulted in this mess. Rei popped up in Eva-01 after it went boso on Sachi, and Rei turns up again when Bardi hijacks the Eva. Clearly a pattern.

I wonder if it's intentional that Asuka sees this creepy grinning Rei in the plug after her "smiling" comment.


Now that you mention it, that line sounded almost like an invitation for smiling creepy Rei.
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Postby Azathoth » Sat May 29, 2010 11:55 am

View Original PostZapX wrote:Rei's bandages are on her right eye. I'm pretty sure Mari's eye injury is the right side too.


You're right about the bandages, now that I check. You're sort of right about Mari; she's bleeding on the right side of her face (possibly from the eye? I can't find a good shot) but it's the left lens that broke.
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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Sat May 29, 2010 12:16 pm

View Original PostNemZ wrote:Besides, look at the tip of her nose in 2nd pic... those needles are nowhere near her eyes. It's likely those are stabilizing rods to hold the fractured bits of her skull in place so that they set correctly.

Well, Ursus and I were talking in the chan and we agreed it makes more sense that the needle is on her eye if you look at the way her hair flows from her head; the head is laying flat and tilted back some, not propped up. We were thinking that the facemask contraption has more of a gasmask configuration, so the pump isn't going directly into her mouth from the angle shown. I mean, I haven't seen any perspective shot in Eva or most other modern anime that would draw a nose the way that supposed nose is.

tl;dr: that isn't a nose, and yeah the needle/probe is in the left eye.
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Postby Synapsid » Sat May 29, 2010 12:18 pm

View Original PostNemZ wrote:Besides, look at the tip of her nose in 2nd pic... those needles are nowhere near her eyes. It's likely those are stabilizing rods to hold the fractured bits of her skull in place so that they set correctly.

I don’t know, IV looking syringes aren’t normally used to fix bones, and as I said in the image-context thread it would seem from the entryplug’s damage that Yui’s teeth didn’t actually touch her, and most of the physical injuries would have been from the LCLpressure/compression and the impact of having been dropped around.

I guess it’s still possible that something of that sort could have injured Asuka’s check bone but the context of that chamber really doesn’t say ICU/Surgery to me: She’s surrounded by the same Suppression Rods Tuniel and QShogoki have around them, and she’s got needles and wires all over her body in a way that looks awfully reminiscent of Tuniel's accessories. From the context behind the looks I’d say that the function of that room is one of a containment and sample chamber, and Ritsuko’s talk about her being a “Valuable sample” only reinforces that.
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Oh and the part about Asuka being pulled into what looks like a face only furthers the idea of Bardiel as an intelligent personality that could play into the "mental contamination" Ritsuko mentioned.
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