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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:00 am

View Original PostIspellnogood wrote:http://www.nicozon.net/search/PSP%E7%89%88%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B2%E3%83%AA%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B32

Link to NGE2 psp endings. Click the play button towards the bottom of the screen to watch.

I don't have experience with forums and stuff if it does not work I don't know how to get it to.

Sorry if you already knew about these videos.

Thanks for the link, apparenyl they are hosted on nicovideo, if they don't work I suppose you just need to login;
An huge thanks to Reichu, I really liked to know a little more about this game endings (usual Evangelion game, I don't like the game system and there's a huge linguistic barrier), it's really interesting, a decent idea of what Seele and Gendo wanted to obtain with the 2nd Impact even though I wonder how Seele kept Kaworu, they didn't send him in the first place? They did the same (mysterious) thing Nerv do with Rei each time she dies?.
EDIT: it'd better to open the videos directly from nicovideo, at least the Shigeru video isn't working (it's the first time I've heard a Japanese gal telling me that the video was removed, it's way better than an annoying warning XD). Link
So let’s make a wish.
“Please let me redo again.”
No matter how many times

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Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:08 pm

Well, I never did post the "Thank You" ending... But, here, you get to have a crappy translation of the Angel one instead. This ending plays in the NGE2 (PS2) game if an Angel reaches Terminal Dogma, which can happen if, e.g., it gets to the Nerv pyramid before you kill it (yeah, kind of lame that things would just end there), or if all of the Evas are incapacitated.

There's extra dialogue that presents if you're playing as Shinji or Kaworu, but the Shinji stuff is straight from "Thank You", so you can either hunt down SSD's translation from the huge E.E.E. NGE2 thread or wait, and I don't have the Kaworu stuff on me. (In fact, I have no idea where the hard drive containing all my NGE2 recordings disappeared to. I have no idea how I could manage to lose a gigantic external hard drive, either.)

Looks like the pictures are bigger than they need to be... but I've spent enough time on this, so you can deal for now. EDIT: The translation is now more complete, but I haven't screencapped these additions. Watch the video if you want visuals.

NGE (PS2) - Angel Ending - "Good Night"

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(in-battle prelude)

Misato:
Eva-04, move it!
[Text reads: Eva-04, move to Area G-1!]

Aoba:
Target has breached the zero area! It’s heading for the Geofront!

Misato:
Withdraw the Evas into the Geofront by linear rail! Prepare to intercept!

***

Hyuga:
Angel has invaded the Geofront. Currently on a direct trajectory for Headquarters!

Hyuga:
Lifting up Evas!

Hyuga:
Eva lift-up completed. Pilots are preparing to intercept!

Aoba:
Nerv Headquarters has taken a hit!
[Text reads: Nerv Headquarters (has received) 167 damage!]

(Fade to black)

***

(Cinematic begins)

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Aoba:
Target is infiltrating Nerv H.Q. It'll be here any second!

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Misato:
All hands, evacuate headquarters!!

Hyuga:
It’s here! Uwaggghhhhh!!!

Image

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Caption:
At last, the Angel arrived before the white giant in Terminal Dogma

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Caption:
And then, it began...

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The angel, its body transfigured into a milky-colored mist of light, became a bundle of light and pierced the white giant's mask.

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Light that escaped from the mask, blood-like, showered (the Angel), and the Angel light-bundle was molded into a human shape.
The mask shattered into tiny fragments.


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Light like a red sunset spread all over.

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Caption:
That was when it ended.
Or, perhaps, that was when it began.
When everything would become one...

***

[Kaworu’s scenario only]
Kaworu:
It’s calling for me... Ahh, I've been given permission.
I've found the place to which I must return.

[In Shinji’s scenario (only?): Shinji’s “where am I?” sequence from the Good End plays here]

[In Asuka’s scenario only: Asuka’s “where am I?” sequence from the Good End plays here]

***

Image

Caption/Rei:
Let's go back...

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Rei:
Come home, everyone...
And meet each another once again.

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The Angel -- a light that took on human form -- and Rei are taken inside the giant's face, as if being received.
Having completely engulfed Rei and the light, the white giant pulls its hands off the cross to which it is nailed… starts to move.
Then, the giant’s body changes into a sinuous female one — Rei’s…


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Rei:
Welcome…
Welcome home.

(Black screen)

[Kaworu’s scenario only]
Kaworu:
This place is— I see. We’re here.

[??? – absent from my Shinji’s Scenario recording, but it showed up for NAveryW]
Shinji:
Where are we?
What is this place?

[Asuka’s scenario only]
Asuka:
What is this place…?

Rei:
We are within the S² Engine, where the power that spins forever is born.
Where what had once been you intersects with others.

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Rei:
Look — this is what once had been you.
All life passes through here and comes into being.

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Rei:
All of the ones you called the Angels are also here. They are with you...

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Many lights, waves, are passing by.
No — you yourself have become lights and waves.


Rei:
Now, sleep…
And one day, this planet will again be wrapped with life.

Image

Caption/Rei:
Good night.


Notes:

- I'm as confused as you might be with regard to the pictures not totally matching up with the text. The description seems to say that Lilith's face is exposed and it swallows up Rei and the Angel -- wouldn't have been interesting to see... -- but, yeah.

- Why does the Angel turn into a Lilin-sized human-shaped wad of light? Got me... And why is Lilith's face so important here?

- No idea why Lilith's forehead is sucking up the souls. It's that way in the regular ending ("Thank you"), too.

- Also the same as the "Thank you" ending is all of the dialogue from "Where are we?" to "They are with you". So, yes -- regardless of whether it's the Angel end or the regular end, they still say that you're in the S2 Engine and that the Angels are there with you.

- I'm especially boggled by how Rei magically appears just in time to enter Lilith with the Angel. This will happen even if Eva-00 was so heavily damaged in the battle you just lost that Rei would require a month+ of hospitalization at best.

Original Japanese Text:

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ミサト「四号機、G-1エリアに移動して!」

青葉「目標、ゼロエリアを突破!
ジオフロントに向かっています!」

ミサト「エヴァは、リニアレールからジオフロントまで撤退!
迎撃態勢を取って!」

日向「使徒、ジオフロントに侵入。
本部へ真っ直ぐ接近中!」

日向「エヴァ、リフトアップ!」

日向「エヴァ、リフトアップ完了。
パイロットは、迎撃準備を!」

青葉「ネルフ本部、167のダメージ!」(ネルフ本部、攻撃受けています!)

***

青葉「目標、ネルフ本部に侵入。すぐに、ここまで来ます!」
ミサト「総員、本部から撤退!!」
日向「き、来ました…。うわぁぁぁぁあー!!」
ターミナルドグマの白い巨人の前に
ついに使徒がたどり着いた
そして…それが、始まった…
使徒は、乳濁色の光の霧へとその身体を変容され、光の束となって白い巨人の仮面を刺した。
仮面からもれる、血のような光を浴びて、使徒の光の束はヒトの姿を形作っていった。
仮面が粉々に砕け散った。赤い夕焼けのような光が一面に広がる。
テロップ「それは、終わりのとき」
テロップ「あるいは、始まりのとき」
テロップ「すべてが一つになる時が…」

***

カヲル「呼んでいる…。ああ、僕は許されたんだ…。
帰るべき場所が、僕にはあったんだ…。」

***

テロップ/レイ「かえりましょう…」
レイ「かえるの、みんな…。そして、また巡り会うの。」
人の姿と化した光、使徒とレイが巨人の顔の中に、あたかも迎え入れられるように取り込まれていく…。
すっかりレイと光を飲み込んだ白い巨人は、磔られていた十字架から、ずるりと手を引き抜き、動き出した。
そして、巨人の身体が女性の、レイのしなやかな身体へと変容する…。
レイ「お帰り…、お還りなさい…。」

カヲル「ここは…。…そうか、ここは。」
シンジ「ここはどこ…、どこだろう?」
アスカ「ここ、どこなんだろう…。」

レイ「ここは、S2機関の中、巡り巡る力の生まれるところ。
かつて、あなただったものが他のものと交差するところ。
ほら、これがあなただったもの。全ての生命は、ここへ過ぎてはやって来る…
使徒と呼ばれたものも、全てここに。あなたと共に…。」

幾多の光、波が通り過ぎていく。
いや、自分自身が光であり、波であった。

レイ「今は眠りなさい…。そして、いつの日か再び、この惑星を、生命で覆うのよ。」

テロップ/レイ「おやすみなさい…」
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Postby MaskedOmega » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:16 pm

This is an EVA game? Is it text based or something?

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Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:22 pm

View Original PostMaskedOmega wrote:This is an EVA game? Is it text based or something?

It's this.

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Postby Monk Ed » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:39 pm

Nice and creeepy ending. The final "good night" gave me chills.

I see. So Rei's solution, in joining the Angel, seems to be to end the conflict between the races by joining them together and resetting life -- starting over Lilith's process entirely. Maybe the "going to sleep" part refers to the (m/b)illions of years it'll take for life to start up again.

Interesting that the Angel's light form is only able to take on a human shape after getting "sprayed" by light from within Lilith. I wonder if the reason why is because it needs to take on human form before it can try to merge with Lilith -- a case of needing to trick Lilith's autoimmune defenses to get in, if you will.

Who knows if the new race to be born would be more like the Angels, though?
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Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:49 pm

I agree that it's rather creepy. (When you hear it in Rei's standard monotone, it's that much worse.)

In this ending, and this ending only, they mention the change into light/waves. I suppose that could be taken to mean that everyone is being converted into Angels? If so, perhaps the "good night" refers to the extended incubation the Angels seem to require before they are born. Everyone has to "sleep" for a while before they'll hatch into their new Angel forms.

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Postby Monk Ed » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:59 pm

Oooh interesting. Yes, that makes sense.

I'm glad that there's a way to read this that corroborates my theory that Lilith and Adam are both far more alike than anyone realized -- explaining why the Angels would be able to cause their own reset-of-life regardless of whether it was Lilith or Adam in TD, because in either case they've got an S2 to use. (As we know, the CI says that Adam was prevented from resetting life on Earth with an Adam base, and what we see here seems to be an Angel doing the exact same thing but using Lilith's body combined with its own S2.)

What I'm wondering now is whether Kaworu would have been able to do the same. For example, if he lacks an S2 (because he was "born" in the human form), perhaps he alone among the classified Angels could have done nothing with Lilith.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:12 pm

It's possible that some of the other scenarios might further elucidate matters, but those will have to wait for their time...

Looks like I had the normal PS2 ending mostly done, so I'll start posting that, I suppose. It's a lot of fluff.

NGE2 (PS2) - Regular Ending ("Thank You")

This is the ending acquired when the MP Evas are defeated. There are some minor variations that present, dependent on such things as who you are playing as, which characters might have bought the farm over the course of the game, etc. This isn't an exhaustive compilation; it's just whatever I'd happened to put together last summer.

PART 1: Lilith Advent / HIP Begins

SPOILER: Show
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IBUKI:
The Eva Series have gone silent…!

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IBUKI:
Hurry and recover the Eva units and pilots.

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AOBA:
A high-energy body is currently ascending from Terminal Dogma! Is this a… humanoid?

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HYUGA:
Analysis pattern blue! It can't be -- an Angel!?
No, it's not. A person -- it's human!

Image
CAPTION (Rei):
Let's go home...

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[This dialogue is dependent on the character you're playing.]

Shinji:
Ayanami…?

Asuka:
...The First? ...Who are you?

KAWORU:
First…

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Rei:
Come home, everyone… and meet each other once again.

Image
IBUKI:
…!?
This can’t be— The defeated Eva Series units are...
The Eva Series have released their S2 Engines.
This is just like the initial phase of Second Impact!
An Anti A.T. Field is materializing.

Image Image Image
IBUKI:
The Anti A.T. Field is breaching the critical point!
At this rate, lifeforms won’t be able to maintain their individual shapes!

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CAPTION:
And,
The Instrumentality of Mankind began.

Image Image Image
CAPTION:
Into the intermingling regret and hope that people hold…
In order to fill the voids within hearts,
The complementation of minds begins…


PART 2: Shinji

SPOILER: Show
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Shinji:
Huh, why am I here...?

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Shinji:
What… am I doing here…?

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Asuka:
Stupid Shinji. What are you spacing out for?

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Misato:
Shin-chan.

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Shinji:
Asuka--?
Misato-san--?

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GENDO:
So there you are, Shinji.

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Shinji:
Father…

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YUI:
Shinji…

Shinji:
Mother….

YUI:
Shin-chan… You’re always crying, aren’t you?

Shinji:
Mother...


PART 3: Asuka

SPOILER: Show
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Asuka:
My room...?

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Asuka:
Huh, but I'm....

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Misato:
What's wrong, Asuka?

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RITSUKO:
Oh, Asuka.

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Kaji:
You seem a little down today. What is it...?

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HIKARI:
Asuka, what happened?
If something's wrong, you can tell me.

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TOJI:
What's with you today?

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KENSUKE:
It’s not like you to be so worked up.

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Shinji:
Did somebody say something just now…? (??)

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Rei:
So it would seem… Do you agree?

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Asuka:
....................


PART 4: Misato


SPOILER: Show

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Misato:
...?
My room?
Pen-Pen…?

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Misato:
What in the— Wait, is this—!?

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Misato:
What am I doing here?


PART 5: Gendo

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GENDO:
Yui?! No, that… is how things used to be.

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GENDO:
This is… Rei’s…
Rei, —Rei!!

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Shinji:
Father…

GENDO:
Shinji…?


PART 6: Fuyutsuki
SPOILER: Show
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FUYUTSUKI:
…!!!!
It’s only been that long since I was here?

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FUYUTSUKI:
How did this happen?!

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YUI:
Fuyutsuki-sensei.

FUYUTSUKI:
Yui-kun?!
Is that really you?

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FUYUTSUKI:
…What in the world is going on?


PART 7: Ritsuko

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RITSUKO:
......?
I was only just here?

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NAOKO (flashback):
Where are you going?

RITSUKO (flashback):
For a walk. How about you, Mother?

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RITSUKO:
(gasp)
Wha-what happened?!
What’s going on??

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IBUKI:
Where are you going, ma’am?

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HYUGA:
Where are you off to?

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AOBA:
Where are you being taken?

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Kaji:
Where you going?

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Misato:
Where ya headin’?

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RITSUKO:
(gasp)


PART 8: Maya

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IBUKI:
...Huh? What am I doing here?

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IBUKI:
Eh? This can’t—

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RITSUKO (flashback):
I have high expectations — I’ve seen the graduate thesis that got you hired. (??)

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IBUKI (flashback):
Yes, ma’am. I’ll do my best!!

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IBUKI (flashback):
Is it okay if I call you “sempai"?

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IBUKI:
That’s me… When I’d only first started here.
Is this a dream? What’s going on?

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Postby Reichu » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:57 am

Don't feel like doing the time-consuming screenshot thing right now, so the rest of the characters can settle for dialogue only. Until later.

Last part has pictures, though, just because. Note the overlap with both the Seele and Angel endings.


PART 9: Hyuga

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HYUGA:
How did I get here? Shouldn’t I be at the Command Center??

HYUGA:
Eh? Is this—?

Misato (flashback):
Thanks for giving me a lift.

HYUGA (flashback):
It was no problem at all.

HYUGA:
What’s going on? Is that me…?

Misato (flashback):
Won’t you come up? We could have some tea.

HYUGA (flashback):
Um… Yeah, but I have to go back (to work?) today.

Misato (flashback):
...I see.

HYUGA:
I wonder why I turned down her invite back then.
It had been a rough day…
But, even though she’d asked me out, I realized that I probably wasn’t the one Misato-san was looking for.
That scared me.

HYUGA:
…....?
What was that, just now...?


PART 10: Aoba

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AOBA:
I’m here?!

AOBA (flashback):
It won’t work out. They say I’m not good enough.

TERUO (flashback):
Hold on! We can’t just stop playing.

AOBA:
That’s me… Back when Teruo and I were in school. …Teruo?

AOBA (flashback):
You’re going to debut and play some good tunes. I’ll be cheering you on.

TERUO (flashback):
Since I talked to the office again, we can try to do this together.
C’mon, Shigeru…

AOBA:
Right, that was when I thought I wanted to play one more time.
But…

AOBA:
Huh…?! The Command Center…?


PART 11: Kaji

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Kaji:
……????
This is Katsuragi’s…?

Misato:
Kaji-ku~n...

Kaji:
Katsuragi?

RITSUKO:
誰を見てるってワケでもなく、私とも…とはね。 I’m guilty of the same. We won’t forget this day.

Kaji:
Ritchan?
…!!!
That’s what I thought… Third Impact has started, hasn't it?


PART 12: Hikari

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HIKARI:
…?
Is this the classroom?
Why did I come here?

HIKARI:
Ayanami-san?

Rei:
Horaki-san, let's go home.

HIKARI:
...............
A-alright.


PART 13: Toji

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TOJI:
……Huh?
What? The hosptial?
That's right, my sister. Is she okay?

TOJI:
Ayanami, you came here too?

Rei:
Let's go home.

TOJI:
"Go home"? Hey. Hey!!
What the— I can't see a thing…

KID SIS:
Big brother, let’s get out of here.
Come on… let’s go home.

TOJI:
……Kid sis?


PART 14: Kensuke

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KENSUKE:
Huh? I’m at the classroom at school? What the heck…? Why did I come here?

KENSUKE:
Ayanami?

Rei:
Aida-kun, let's go home.

KENSUKE:
........ Ye-yeah.


PART 15: Fuck Yeah!

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People lose their A.T. Fields and turn into the LCL that predates the birth of life.
Only the human souls flow across the Earth's surface in a precarious drift.


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KEEL:
We abandon our useless bodies to become one with God. Due to our guidance, the path that both ends and rebirths all life (has been opened).

****

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Rei:
Welcome… Welcome home.

Shinji:
Where are we? What is this place?

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Rei:
We are within the S² Engine, where the power that spins forever is born.
Where what had once been you intersects with others.

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Look — this is what once had been you.
All life is coming here. (??) [全ての生命は、ここへ過ぎてはやって来る… ]

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The ones you called the Angels are all here, as well. They are with you...

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KAWORU:
So we've been made to remember our original forms.
If we're unable to recognize Lilith, we'll vanish into nothing.

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KAWORU:
And Lilith, you do not wish for that. Isn't that right...?

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First the red lights floating in Kaworu's vicinity, and then the red lights from the entire Earth, head toward and flow into Eva-01.

KAWORU:
The human heart can only open up to (other) people.
My work here is finished.
Lilith, is this all right?

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KAWORU:
...Lilith.
I see, so I am allowed.
Thank you, Lilin.

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(Extended black screen; sound of waves.)

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Rei:
Thank you, for all that you have taught us.
The dreams…, tears…, pain…, and serenity.
Everyone is here with you.

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Rei:
Thank you.

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Postby Monk Ed » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:32 am

Interesting... If this is in fact the "normal" ending that reflects EoE (except that we're not shown the part afterwards where Shinji and Asuka are together on the beach), Rei's promise that "Everyone is here with you" would implicitly confirm the "everybody revives" interpretation of the ending of EoE. The part where she says "Thank you" seems to imply that she is -- this is my interpretation -- thanking humanity on behalf of the Seeds for teaching them things.

...Unless she's thanking all the people who are stored in the S2 engine?

Whoa! At first I thought that second-to-last pic was of a speared harpie sticking up out of the water like what we normally see, but now I see that it's Eva-01 with long flowing hair and spear in hand. Crazy! ...And awesome-looking.
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Postby Reichu » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:52 am

I'm not really sure where this ending is meant to fit in, but I would guess that it is some sort of alternate. Something equivalent to the EoE ending is included with the PSP version, but not the PS2 one. As for exactly what happens, and why... I seemed to get the impression that everybody was channeled into Eva-01 (including Kaworu, with Lilith's blessings?), and then Rei thanked her (Yui/Eva) -- the one with whom everyone is now with. Note that the "you" to whom Rei refers is in the singular.

But, really, I have no idea. :? These endings are so damn vague.

Here's Hair Club Eva-01 a little bigger.

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Contrast that to the end of the Seele ending, where Eva-01 is standing around with no hair and no Spear.

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Postby NemZ » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:45 am

That sounds to me like in both cases there's been a permanent instrumentality set up, now active as a unified being in the form of 01. The only real difference with the Seele ending's outcome is that everyone (including the angels) is invited to join this one, rather than just the inner circle.
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Postby liquidus118 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:10 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Image

Do you have a bigger version of that image?

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Postby Reichu » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:40 pm

View Original Postliquidus118 wrote:Do you have a bigger version of that image?

That's the best version I've got on me. If you're desperate enough for better, I suppose there's always PS2 emulation...

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Postby liquidus118 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:53 pm

Fair enough, I just was thinking about making it a wallpaper or something. No big deal since I have plenty of others.

Keep up the good work with the endings, by the way. I thought that in other threads people mentioned different endings that were basically EoE's but with Kaworu and Shinji, is that in NGE2?

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Postby Monk Ed » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:01 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:I'm not really sure where this ending is meant to fit in, but I would guess that it is some sort of alternate. Something equivalent to the EoE ending is included with the PSP version, but not the PS2 one.

Wait, so, in the PS2 version, there's no ending which corresponds to EoE, the best ending you can hope for (short of averting 3I entirely) is total complementation? A game which was designed in the first place to hold the answers to the series does not even allow an ending where what happens in the series takes place?

(I have to assume that the "thank you" ending is the total complementation result, once I noticed that it's Eva-01 in that pic, looking decidedly solitary.)
As for exactly what happens, and why... I seemed to get the impression that everybody was channeled into Eva-01 (including Kaworu, with Lilith's blessings?), and then Rei thanked her (Yui/Eva) -- the one with whom everyone is now with. Note that the "you" to whom Rei refers is in the singular.

Oh, hm. Hah, this is one of those rare cases where Japanese makes a distinction between singular and plural where English does not.

I notice that the souls all enter GNR (through the forehead no less), just as in the Angel ending, but wind up in Eva-01's S2. It has to be Eva-01's S2 because she says everyone is with "you" now, not "me", herself.

This makes me think about something: Perhaps the reason GNR absorbed Eva-01 into her forehead in EoE was for the purpose of transferring the souls into Eva-01, to use that body as the complemented being. A gestation, if you will, which fits the egg-and-sperm symbolism we see going on inside GNR. If this ending is basically what would have happened in EoE if Shinji had not changed his mind, then it indicates that GNR's only purpose was to birth the god, not be the god.

In other words, this would finally explain why GNR's neck split open even before Shinji made his decision: GNR was going down no matter what, the only question was whether or not what would emerge from her would be the complemented being. (So in other words it symbolized that the process was ending fast and Shinji made his decision at the last possible moment before the point of no return.) The Eva emerged as a god-creature either way, even with just Yui (and possibly one or two others) inside.
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Postby symbv » Wed May 25, 2011 8:04 pm

Just found this from another thread. Wonderful and meticulous translation. Saw one with ?? mark so I would like to see if I can help.

> All life is coming here. (??)

全ての生命は、ここへ過ぎてはやって来る…

My translation

All lives pass through here and come into being...


For the dialogues and captions for other endings, if there are original Japanese text I can help with double-checking the translation too.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed May 25, 2011 9:07 pm

Just noticed this thread has been bumped.

I'm trying to remember what Instrumentality variation is Kaworu naked in (instead of clothed in his school uniform) with those surrounding lights (I forget if they're Angel souls or Seele's souls) but yeah, like Reichu said, the Seele Instrumentality ending has Eva-01 standing there with no hair flowing and no Spear.

I forget how extensive my notes in the forums were on the different (5 or 6 total) Instrumentality game endings (I'm assuming they're in the giant Eva2 thread in Everything Else, but maybe it's somewhere in Discussion). Still, nice to see this translated properly (instead of any incorrect mental-translations of mine as I play(ed) through the game).

Thanks Reicchan! :kawaii:

Also: I know for Shinji's Scenario 01 in the PSP game, his Best End is Rei rejecting Gendo and checking on Shinji after Shinji defeats the Harpies/saves Asuka (Misato died EoE-style, Kaji died from Seele-goon, Fuyutsuki says something to Gendo about how Gendo has to let go of Yui/the past, Seele were apparently thwarted with the Harpie's defeat so Third Impact was averted so everybody else lives on as Rei and Shinji hold hands. Yay! Sadly no mention of Asuka in the ending--but--you can only reach this end if Asuka is saved by you (Shinji) stopping the Harpies.) while the Bad End (scenario unable to be Cleared) is EoE events (Rei joining with Lilith and reaching the Harpies, Shinji freaks out, everybody is Tanged, Shinji is in the LCL Sea with Lilith and Adam then rejects Instrumentality, he says goodbye to Yui (who says something about her plans) then he's on the beach laying atop of Asuka, "Kimochi Warui."), but I could have sworn Shinji's PS2 01 Scenario included both ends... Then again, it's been some time since I played my copy of the PS2 version (I don't have a PS2 currently) so my copy of the PSP version is the main version at my disposal.
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Postby symbv » Wed May 25, 2011 9:28 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:I know for Shinji's Scenario 01 in the PSP game, his Best End is Rei rejecting Gendo and checking on Shinji after Shinji defeats the Harpies/saves Asuka (Misato died EoE-style, Kaji died from Seele-goon, Fuyutsuki says something to Gendo about how Gendo has to let go of Yui/the past, Seele were apparently thwarted with the Harpie's defeat so Third Impact was averted so everybody else lives on as Rei and Shinji hold hands. Yay! Sadly no mention of Asuka in the ending--but--you can only reach this end if Asuka is saved by you (Shinji) stopping the Harpies.)


Manga ending??
I would like to see Asuka and Shinji holding hands at the end though.

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:while the Bad End (scenario unable to be Cleared) is EoE events (Rei joining with Lilith and reaching the Harpies, Shinji freaks out, everybody is Tanged, Shinji is in the LCL Sea with Lilith and Adam then rejects Instrumentality, he says goodbye to Yui (who says something about her plans) then he's on the beach laying atop of Asuka, "Kimochi Warui.")


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Postby Monk Ed » Wed May 25, 2011 9:38 pm

The good ending has Misato, Kaji and others dead with no hope of revival? The good ending?
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