Final Fantasy series

[Shinoyami65]

Managed to get Final Fantasy VII working on my phone emulator. I wasn't really sure about it at first but after progressing and getting used to the combat system I'm beginning to enjoy it.

I may also give Final Fantasy XIII-2 another go, if I have some free time.

[Dima]

Actually the creator of Type-0 said in September they are in fact working on getting a North American release, wouldn't be surprised if gets announced at E3.

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/09/hajime-tabata-is-still-passionate-about-bringing-final-fantasy-type-0-westward/

I would be surprised if it does. Not only surprised but SHOCKED. I remember these comments, it isn't tha i don't trust Tabata (he directed Crisis Core so this means i like him a lot) but i can't trust Square Enix these days. The company is the shadow of the former self and spends most of the resources working on smartphones games. Considering VITA is doing bad overseas i can't see any official Type-0 release happening. VITA is the most logical choice but since it sells bad the other option should be PS3 but Tabata said Type-0 is not a console game and it doesn't feel right since they actually considered and tested the game on PS3.

BTW the Type-0 spin off game AGITO is releasing this month or next for smartphones. The last chance we have is Square Enix deciding to bundle these 2 games Type-0 and Agito in one product and brings them here.

Platforms? If they want to make money PS3/PS4/PSVITA is the only way to go. I heard from developers that Sony has some tools that makes the porting between these 3 platforms extreme easy and costs almost nothing.

[hui43210]

^ Eh, I just don't share your pessimism but I do understand it. However, I'm thinking Square is realizing the awful mistakes they've made over the past decade.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/31/news-on-final-fantasy-xv-and-kingdom-hearts-iii-coming-at-e3-square-enix-jrpg-fans-are-all-over-the-world/

While I don't know for sure Type-0 will happen here, it seems like Square is starting to get where the money is for them.

[Dima]

^ Eh, I just don't share your pessimism but I do understand it. However, I'm thinking Square is realizing the awful mistakes they've made over the past decade.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/31/news-on-final-fantasy-xv-and-kingdom-hearts-iii-coming-at-e3-square-enix-jrpg-fans-are-all-over-the-world/

While I don't know for sure Type-0 will happen here, it seems like Square is starting to get where the money is for them.

Sorry man Square Enix last gen burned me for good with the 10 year wait of Versus (now XV).
Later they stopped translating their games including Type-0, Dragon Quest VII remake and Dragon Quest Monsters. Bravely Default came here thanks to Nintendo. After that it took them so many years to get into the HD remasters and they still missing tons of games to remaster. Now they put most of their resources on working for smartphones games. Let's not even start how many great IPs have abandoned since PS2 days.

In the past 10 years the only good games we got from Square Enix is:

Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XIV: ARR
Dissidia FF
Crisis Core FFVII
Bravely Default
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD
Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep

So a PS2 game, an online game that they had to reboot and launch it from the start, 4 portable games and an HD remaster that took them 3+ to make .

[NemZ]

^ You're a crazy person. The only game on your list I might be interested in is Bravely Default, but if you go back just in the last 10 years you'll find gems like DQ8 (I didn't care for 9, but some would include that too), most of the upgraded portable remakes of classic FF, Tactics, DQ 4-6, Front Mission and Chrono Trigger, The World Ends With You, FF4 After Years, and I hear good things about FF: Dimensions. Don't forget they're the publisher for Eidos so Deus Ex HR, the latest Tomb Raider and Thief are technically all SE games too, and SE is the distributor for the Batman: Arkham (whatever) series in Japan.

[Dima]

^ You're a crazy person. The only game on your list I might be interested in is Bravely Default, but if you go back just in the last 10 years you'll find gems like DQ8 (I didn't care for 9, but some would include that too), most of the upgraded portable remakes of classic FF, Tactics, DQ 4-6, Front Mission and Chrono Trigger, The World Ends With You, FF4 After Years, and I hear good things about FF: Dimensions. Don't forget they're the publisher for Eidos so Deus Ex HR, the latest Tomb Raider and Thief are technically all SE games too, and SE is the distributor for the Batman: Arkham (whatever) series in Japan.

What in the world did i just read

So you think that any person who doesn't have the same game preferences is a crazy person? Way to go for a mod. For DQ8. I have played every DQ game there is out there. Even the ones without english translation. If you are a big DQ fan you should know while DQ8 is an okay game especially when we are talking about the graphics (considered it is a PS2 game) but nobody would call it a gem. Of course in your opinion it might be a gem you know how these things go (opinions and such) but in the majority of a Dragon Quest community it would have a low post in a ranking. Every DQ fan knows that the real gems are DQ5 and DQ7.

The fact that you give SE credits for FF : Dimensions and for the distribution of a Batman game in Japan shows that you are completely clueless in gaming (with no offense). I still don't know if you are serious or trolling. To make it more clear if you had posted the same thing in a gaming forum you will either

a) Get a funny tag
b) get a permanent ban for trolling


The other games you mentioned are generally okay games especially TWEWY and FF4 but Chrono Trigger is a port of an old game and Front Mission..... well after 5 which never made it outside Japan every other entry is pure garbage.

[Squigsquasher]

Vidya gaemz: Serious business.

[NemZ]

Way to go for a mod.

Not everything the board staff says is 'official business', you know. We're board users too.

I've played DQ 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 9. Of those, 8 has no competition for top spot precisely because of the unique way the game handles character skills. 9 completely ruined this by applying a similar system to a bunch of blank-slate mooks.

FF : Dimensions

Why would this be a problem? It was made by Square's Matrix studio, the same sub-group who made FF3 and FF4DS remakes, The After Years, and PS2 port of your precious DQ5.

And I see you've completely glossed over what I said about Eidos.

[Dima]

Not everything the board staff says is 'official business', you know. We're board users too.

Of course i know that. I didn't get offended from the ''crazy''. Thankfully i am not so sensitive. But considering that in the past you called me an asshole (and badmouthing me while i was banned) without knowing me or better not know my ''side'' i can't say i take lightly these kinds of words from you.

I've played DQ 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 9. Of those, 8 has no competition for top spot precisely because of the unique way the game handles character skills. 9 completely ruined this by applying a similar system to a bunch of blank-slate mooks.

Do yourself a favour and play 7. You will find except character skills also unique classes for every character.

Why would this be a problem? It was made by Square's Matrix studio, the same sub-group who made FF3 and FF4DS remakes, The After Years, and PS2 port of your precious DQ5.

And I see you've completely glossed over what I said about Eidos.

Just because it was made from the Matrix studio doesn't say much. It's not a bad game considering it's for smartphones but i could never give credit for this to a company like Square Enix.

Eidos may be owned by Square Enix but they pretty much work like a different branch. It is like Sega and Atlus. Sega owns Atlus but doesn't interfere with them at all. Not that they can't but there is no reason. The same goes for Square Enix and EIDOS. The strange thing is that Eidos is more capable then any other Square Enix studio and this is thanks to what i said earlier. Square Enix haven't interfered with them yet.

As for their games? Tomb Raider and Hitman are very good games. Deus Ex i haven't played it. Thied sadly is bad. But Square Enix had 0 to do with these games apart from financing.

[NemZ]

But considering that in the past you called me an asshole (and badmouthing me while i was banned) without knowing me or better not know my ''side'' i can't say i take lightly these kinds of words from you.

I wasn't a mod at the time. My opinion was based on reading the posts between you Bagheera that got both of you banned.

But this has nothing to do with the topic, so I'll just say that I'll consider picking up DQ7 and you should really consider trying out DX:HR.

[Dima]

I wasn't a mod at the time. My opinion was based on reading the posts between you Bagheera that got both of you banned.

I don't think it was based only on reading the posts because i recall very well that you said ''Bagheera explained me on chat or email what happened''. The thing is that i shouldn't be banned at all and i still don't know why they banned me because my posts where nowhere as offensive as Bagheera's and the other guy (who got a life ban?) so no one would call me an asshole just from these posts (in which i was defending myself and my thread). But we are on a completely different discussion so i will not continue it.

I'll just say that I'll consider picking up DQ7 and you should really consider trying out DX:HR.

If you are ready to spend 120+ hours just for the main story, stand the psx graphics (i find them cute) and checking a walkthrough every 30 minutes to know what to do next then you are in for treat.

[NemZ]

TDK - That wasn't helping, and you should know better.

Dima - You should probably work on your tone. When you snap at people in such an abrasive manner it doesn't win you friends around here. Every minor disagreement doesn't need to become a grudge match.

[Sachi]

Final Fantasy X can be such a mind fuck sometimes. During your first play through, you have absolutely no idea that your hero character is taking the Summoner (ie, the princess character) to Sin (evil incarnate) to be sacrificed in order for it to simply “back off for a couple years and then come back, reborn”! The entire time you are escorting her to her literal death, and everyone knows this but you and your character; you’ve been ignorant this entire time, and none the wiser until one of the big climaxes about halfway through the game. And after all those things you said and promised to her, you piece of shit.

This is one of the reasons why I regard FFX so highly. It neatly deconstructs the typical adventure RPG in which the hero is supposed to protect and save the princess from the villain and twists it so that your adventure is actually the hero taking the princess to be sacrificed to the villain. Of course, the game also follows through with that deconstruction by centering the rest of the story around the dilemma of defeating Sin without having to sacrifice anyone, and in that way it sort of comes full circle with a traditional triumph over evil and success in saving the princess.

I don't know, man. I just really love this game and it certainly gets better with age. The HD remaster also helps with that.

[Monk Ed]

Yes. Yes. Yes. Holy crap, Sachi, you nailed it, and you are literally the first person I've ever read to have thought this much the same as I have about FFX. The last person I had a serious discussion with about this game really hated it, although for reasons completely unrelated to its story .

FFX holds a special place in my heart, for numerous reasons but one being: It was the game I was playing when my dog died. I'd been playing it over the past however-long as a comfort measure because I knew she was dying, plus I'd just been really into the game at the time. The day/night before her death, I played through the part where Tidus learns what's really going to happen to Yuna. After that -- not immediately after, but later that night at least -- I spent a long time with her on the carpet telling her how much I loved her and such.

She died the next day, and I felt very glad and lucky that I did that.

(I probably would have done it even if I hadn't been playing FFX. It's not that FFX inspired me to do that, it's that that point I was at in FFX really resonated with how I was feeling at the time.)

[Stillborn]

FFX was the first Final Fantasy game I played. It is without doubt my favourite. I love the characters and the plot. I like how the Tidus get from ignorant idiot, to someone who even Khimari considers reliable.

And there are the fantastic plot twists. The real reason of the pilgrimige... And the condition to summon the Final Aeon, that even summoner herself didn't know. And the indentity of (current) Sin. And what Aeons are. And what Tidus is... And that ending...

Hosnestly I didn't liked FFX-2 as much as I liked previous part. Neither in gamplay or the story... But damn I was grinding it twice for 100% Just to get the sappy ending they deserved two years ago

[Monk Ed]

Holy shit Stillborn, that's like the first post you've ever made with which I completely agree.

Truly, FFX is magic.

[NemZ]

Huh. X is the first FF game I refused to buy, though I do know the gist of it. That leveling system seemed completely whack, but now that I've seen it again in Path of Exile I'm thinking maybe it isn't as much of a deal breaker as I thought.

[Stillborn]

Holy shit Stillborn, that's like the first post you've ever made with which I completely agree.

Truly, FFX is magic.

And god damn Hymn of Faith. That's one awesome piece of music. I got me some extended version as soon as i found it

[Fireball]

Yeah, X was with VII the most emotionally invested one for me too.

[Sachi]

Huh. X is the first FF game I refused to buy, though I do know the gist of it. That leveling system seemed completely whack, but now that I've seen it again in Path of Exile I'm thinking maybe it isn't as much of a deal breaker as I thought.

The leveling system of the sphere grid takes a little getting used to. I feel as though it had a lot of potential, but was too linear in each of its character paths; it obviously wanted you to experiment around with character classes and weaving into other people's paths, but didn't provide very good means of doing so.

The HD Remaster comes with a feature to choose an "expert sphere grid" that had only been on the International version of game before and never the North American release. The expert sphere grid is much larger, with much more flexibility in customizing your characters and sending them down different paths. I honestly feel like this was the way the game was meant to be played but was probably considered too much for beginning gamers, which is probably true; when I first played this game in middle school I had almost no idea how to work the damn thing. By adding in the option for the expert sphere grid, the entire way of the game has changed and it has been a focus of my revisit this time around.

I was able to teach Yuna basic black magic pretty quickly, and have her weaving in-between the black mage and white mage class. And that's a pretty exciting thing to me.