Episode #19 Choreography Problem

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Episode #19 Choreography Problem

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Postby ObsessiveMathsFreak » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:44 pm

While not as severe as the N^2 explosion or indeed the mystery of Gendou's office which also occure in this episode, episode #19 seems to have another slight problem in its consistency, which I recently came across. I couldn't find any reference to it elsewhere, so I'll post this for whom it may concern.

In Episode #19, after the failure of both Rei and the dummy plug to synch with Unit-01, Gendou stands up and asks Fuyutsuki to take command. Gendou now presumably leaves for the Eva Hanger, where he later meets Shinji. This happens at about 13:40.
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All well and good, except that shortly after this, during Rei's kamakazi attack with the N^2 mine, Gendou is again seen in the command centre. This happens at about 15:00
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And in case you're skeptical, yes, Gendou is again see in the command centre at about 15:18. Seated I might add.
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Gendou is finally seen in the belfry of the Eva hanger ar 16:16.

This all seems to raise the slight question of why Gendou decided to leave, then hung around and sat back down on his chair for a while before heading to the hanger. While not a monumental issue in the scheme of things, it is nonetheless an inconsistency in the choreography of the episode.

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Postby child of Lilith » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:56 pm

Maybe he just went out for a cup of coffee and came right back. :smirk:

There’s just really no way to know for sure why this happened.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:03 pm

Because it's cheaper to use reused animation. All of the shots you point out that are inconsistent have been used in earlier episodes. I'd rather Anno do that than cut down on the animation for the bloody Eva battle later on in the episode just to put up some shots that are in complete continuity.

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Postby AuraTwilight » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:25 pm

It's Gendo, he was probably just fucking with us.

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Postby ObsessiveMathsFreak » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:58 pm

If I remember correctly, only the last shot is a recycled one. And Gendou does not appear to move from a standing position in the third shot. Was Gendou's departure supposed to come after the incident with Rei?
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Postby AVman9 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:00 am

AuraTwilight wrote:It's Gendo, he was probably just fucking with us.

Either that, or I'm going with the editors had a really long day and noticed that they arranged some shots incorrectly at like 4:50pm and then decided to just leave it. I've done stuff like that before. Why not them?
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Postby Archon Eva » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:32 am

random theory:
I is possible, gendo goes plans to go to the hanger and then know that Rei is going to explode, so he sits down. Realising that he was suposed to ask fuyutsuiki to take over later.
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Postby Otakon 08 Ikari » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:01 am

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Postby Zaque » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:40 am

I'm going with Archon Eva for the most part, a slight change of plans upon getting information about Rei, so he never left until just afterward, also, they have fast elevators at nerv.
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Postby Defectron » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:18 am

Gendo forgot his wallet, which of course has his liscense to kill inside it, he can't forget that!
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:05 am

Lol. Fail.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:58 am

My guess is he was about to leave, saw Rei doing her thing, so didn't leave until later on.

haha wow. I never noticed those mistakes for 19.
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Postby esselfortium » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:12 pm

What the--!!! You are not Anno. You are a cat.

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Postby thewayneiac » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:34 pm

esselfortium wrote:What the--!!! You are not Anno. You are a cat.


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Postby NemZ » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:56 pm

If Anno was a cat it would explain so much of the cruelty and pointlessness of his trolling.
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Postby Xard » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:56 pm

NemZ wrote:If Anno was a cat it would explain so much of the cruelty and pointlessness of his trolling.


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Postby Otakon 08 Ikari » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:00 pm

The picture of the AnnoCat has brighten my day. Funny how we are finding things like this so many years later.
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Postby ObsessiveMathsFreak » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:47 pm

Remember the topic people. It is your task to explain this consistency in a way that has the absolute minimal impact on the plot and canon. Bonus marks if make this seeming discrepancy make more sense than the initial interpretation.

If we can't handle something as simple as this, then we have little hope of explaining the rest of the series.
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Postby AuraTwilight » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:51 pm

Oh stuff it, it's not that big of a fucking deal. He left to take a piss.

It's also getting pretty annoying how you talk down to everyone like you're their schoolteacher. Cut it out.

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Postby esselfortium » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:12 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Oh stuff it, it's not that big of a fucking deal. He left to take a piss.

It's also getting pretty annoying how you talk down to everyone like you're their schoolteacher. Cut it out.

Pssssst. I think he's being facetious!


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