Yours was a needlessly combative post; please try to be rather more relaxed about things.
does make a rather large and controversial assumption.
I'd forgotten that this was the thread where we weren't actually talking about the Rebuilds any more.
can Rebuild also be enjoyable (perhaps even forcibly) without a complete ending?
And yeah, for me nte feels more like a EVA rip off than Eva itself. And that doesnt question its quality as movies.
At that point it just comes down to personal taste. Personally, for anything that's not a slice-of-life or a comedy, the ending matters to me more than anything else. Or perhaps more accurately, I care mostly about the overall package of how well a story works as a whole in its themes, characters and plot.
'kuribo-04 wrote:The thing is, that is totally what they are doing on purpose. It comes down to if you like it or not.
kuribo-04 wrote:I agree NGE is much, much better with EoE, but I think EoTV would have worked, though it wouldn't have been nearly as climatic.
The problem with EoTV is that it essentially ends the plot with a card saying "...and then everybody died, and Instrumentality happened". I just can't see how that's defensible from a story perspective (of course the IRL reasons of "they ran out of time and/or money" are completely understandable).
The problem with EoTV is that it essentially ends the plot with a card saying "...and then everybody died, and Instrumentality happened". I just can't see how that's defensible from a story perspective
Zusuchan wrote:I think it actually makes sense in some way-the series was already on its way to surrealist, abstract stuff from ep.14 onwards and had only strengthened its deliberately weird qualities like that since. Couple that and the fact the characters were all starting to get nearer to points where they were practically forced to confront their own psychological issues and some sort of an ultra-surrealist, ultra-abstract, introspective collage show which is entirely about the characters' psychology and them confronting themselves makes a lot of sense and the absence of traditional "plot" elements in EoTV is even cool in the sense that it makes NGE a presentation of what is truly important.
While Shinji is inarguably the main character of Eva, it's not just his story, the narrative and the other characters are still important. I would argue that the plot and characters being ignored is an objective flaw - whether or not that flaw bothers you and detracts from your opinion of the ending is up to personal preference.
"After the 17th Angel's failed attempt to merge with Adam in Terminal Dogma, SEELE takes matters in their own hands, launching an all-out assault on NERV HQ. Unable to turn the tide against SEELE's forces, NERV falls and Terminal Dogma is breached, starting the Instrumentality of Mankind."
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