Eva 02's Look in Rebirth

[Magami No ER [ANF]]

True, but the face and pylons should've been kept the same. I like the fact that the armor's not as shiny. makes it look much more realistic. Also, she's not as anorexic as her TV series version ^^(the same can be said about Asuka. )

Originally posted on: 14-Jan-2005, 16:59 GMT

[Reichu [ANF]]

The wasp waist of the Evas in the TV Series does bother me a little... That, along with making the shoulders SLIGHTLY more manageable, is about the only change I impose when I draw mine. The bizarre combination of gracility and power is one of the Evas' trademarks, and I definitely don't think Kyoko-sama had to be robbed of this and reduced to a guy in a suit -- daikaijuu-style -- for the movie. They could have kept her old look mostly intact, while animating her in a more naturalistic manner.

Speaking of people who got makeovers for the worse in EoE... anyone notice what happened to poor Kozo?

Originally posted on: 14-Jan-2005, 17:30 GMT

[Keisuke-kun [ANF]]

He looks like .....Oh who was it again? Anyway hes got a big chin in EoE. And I think you can see his eyes more.

Originally posted on: 15-Jan-2005, 06:43 GMT

[Treize X [ANF]]

I actually kinda like the EoE look. Her movements seem more realistic than from the series. She looked and moved kinda robot like.

I agree. I have to say, I liked the look of Kyoko in EoE as well as the series, mainly due to the slightly more "balanced" look. I despise some of the animation *cough* Guy in a suit *cough* but other than that st00f, it wasn't too bad.

The slouch, I thought, was put in, same for the harpies, to provide a sort of inhuman thing to it, since normal people, last I checked, didn't slouch when standing up that much. =P

I would have preferred if they gave Kyoko-sama a neat, wider chest, so she appeared more like in the series, but [in contrast], I also like what they had done to the waist, making the segments "less visible" I suppose.

The gloss I never really liked except during certain segments of the show, so I didn't even noice it was gone, LOL.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 14:15 GMT

[Magami No ER [ANF]]

Strange how Yui kept her series look in the movie, segments and all. Different artist?

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 16:08 GMT

[Treize X [ANF]]

Yeah, that is kinda odd.....

Reichu or someone will know....

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 16:14 GMT

[Reichu [ANF]]

Well, remember, it was only one animator (well... maybe two) who drew Kyoko with the extra torso segment and made both her and the harpies look INCREDIBLY stupid. She looked... okay the rest of the time, though I still would have preferred if they had left her original design more intact.

In case you're having trouble figuring out which cuts are drawn badly:

From to ...

and from to ...

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 16:24 GMT

[Reichu [ANF]]

...and from to

They also drew one too many segments in this cut , as well, but that seems to be a different animator.

Yui-sama actually was changed at least a little; they got rid of the, er, brachial pylons (those thingies on the lower arms) with her, as well. Truth to tell, we really don't see that much of her, close-up and in-your-face like we do with EVA-02, so it's harder to see if there is any decisive sort of alteration.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 16:24 GMT

[Magami No ER [ANF]]

Wow, Kyoko's eye goggles aren't even the same size...

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 16:28 GMT

[Treize X [ANF]]

Those are some of the worst versions of Kyoko-sama I'd ever seen (along with my harpies, but their design was mauled less). I remember saying "WTF did they do to Unit 02!?" first time I watched it...*shudder*

The "added segments" on the waist don't bother me as much as those super-tiny shoulder pylons and the out of proportion eyes/head of Kyoko-sama.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 16:40 GMT

[Reichu [ANF]]

The "extra segment" stills count as an oh-so-blatant continuity blunder, considering the look of the girls the REST of the time.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 16:49 GMT

[Treize X [ANF]]

...Meh.

I did noice something odd about one of my harpies (the one who got an arm cut off and neck snapped). During the footage I watched, it appeard it's head got really, really swollen looking, being a lot bigge than normal, and then shrank back down when another harpy moved to slam Kyoko-sama, while it's head lolled about.

I'll see if I can find some pictars.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 16:53 GMT

[Treize X [ANF]]

Here be what I was talking about.



Here we see a perfectly normal head shot, as the arm is being cut off...



...and then we see this, a horrendously out-of-proportion head. What happened?! Just a bit of an oversight on the animator's part, I suppose.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 17:04 GMT

[Reichu [ANF]]

I always thought that was an intentional in-your-face effect. The closer foreshortened body parts are to the viewer, the more outrageous the effect of disproportion is. After a certain distance, it becomes negligible, however.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 18:25 GMT

[Treize X [ANF]]

Meh. I still dislike the look...harpies were to have their heads a certain size.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 18:43 GMT

[Magami No ER [ANF]]

That looked like the head being squished and choked by Kyoko(I'm stuck calling her that, Eva-02 will only be said for n00bs now)

Originally posted on: 17-Jan-2005, 08:15 GMT

[Reichu [ANF]]

Meh. I still dislike the look...harpies were to have their heads a certain size.

Complaining about the size of the heads (not just the harpy, but Nigouki as well) in that shot is like complaining when Kyoko's hand gets bigger the closer to the camera it gets, until it fills the screen. (You can see this shot in the JSSDF battle.) If we're going to complain about anything, it should be how this particular animator draws his Evas.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 21:01 GMT

[Treize X [ANF]]

True....you do have a point. Meh.

Originally posted on: 16-Jan-2005, 21:04 GMT

[Magami No ER [ANF]]

Complaining about the size of the heads (not just the harpy, but Nigouki as well) in that shot is like complaining when Kyoko's hand gets bigger the closer to the camera it gets, until it fills the screen. (You can see this shot in the JSSDF battle.) If we're going to complain about anything, it should be how this particular animator draws his Evas.

Ya mean this?


Her face was the part of this shot that scared me. (devil looking)

Originally posted on: 17-Jan-2005, 00:46 GMT

[bjamieson [ANF]]

Wow.. I never knew there was so much distaste over Eva-02's redesign for the film.

Personally, I like the re-designed Eva a lot more than the original. She's buffer, but still lean and relatively thin. I like the more human-esque physique and think that it fits the Evangelion's "nature". The less extreme shoulder fins make it seem less "anime" and overall it would seem they toned down the more stylistic aspects to the design and made the whole thing more subtle.

I think it looks great.

Originally posted on: 20-Jan-2005, 14:18 GMT