Could the Dummy Plug beat Zeruel?
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Could the Dummy Plug beat Zeruel?
I'm just wondering...if they had managed to get it to work, could a Dummy Plug controlled Unit 01 beat the Angel of Might?
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...Probably?
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Hmm...well I think that would depend purely where Nerv would deploy the Eva; Eva-00 simply charged behind Zeruel's back with an N2 mine. If Eva-01's DP did work, (I'd) run up and drop-kick her.
Considering the DP isn't exactly Eva-01 acting of its own accord (like having the ability to shred up the Angel's toilet paper with ease), I'm thinking the DP Eva-01 would actually have a bit of competition. Hey, if the DP knew how to get the Angel on the ground and rip her face off, then it's a clear win!
Considering the DP isn't exactly Eva-01 acting of its own accord (like having the ability to shred up the Angel's toilet paper with ease), I'm thinking the DP Eva-01 would actually have a bit of competition. Hey, if the DP knew how to get the Angel on the ground and rip her face off, then it's a clear win!
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i say YES and NO!
why!?
well, even Shinji would have beaten Zeruel if his power hadn't quit, only where the batterie was empty Berserk-01 had to finish the job,
i think the dummy plug would've had the same problem, so that Berserk-01 would've finished the job just like he did when Shinji was fighting.
so NO,
but on the other hand, when there wasn't the limitation of battery power and the Dummy plug is pretty similar to the Berserk state i think it would take a bit longer but with the same ending as if Berserk-01 would've done it,
so YES,
you agree?
why!?
well, even Shinji would have beaten Zeruel if his power hadn't quit, only where the batterie was empty Berserk-01 had to finish the job,
i think the dummy plug would've had the same problem, so that Berserk-01 would've finished the job just like he did when Shinji was fighting.
so NO,
but on the other hand, when there wasn't the limitation of battery power and the Dummy plug is pretty similar to the Berserk state i think it would take a bit longer but with the same ending as if Berserk-01 would've done it,
so YES,
you agree?
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I don't think Zeruel was particularly all that injured until Yui pulled out the blade-like ATF. Sure Shinji was throwing Zer a curb-party but it's not clear that he particularly did anything other than force it to move around a bit.
I'm gonna call that a no.
I'm gonna call that a no.
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Speaking of which, when they went against Arael, why didn't they use the dummy plug? There would be no mind to contaminate so its main attack would be ineffective, right?
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Considering the Dummy Plug system amounts to making EVA-01 go RRRAAAAUGH and absolutely destroy its most immediate target in a sloppy non-strategic way, and that's basically what EVA-01 does to defeat Zeruel in the canon events, I'd say yes.
Arael was a precision-based mission. Not exactly the Dummy Plug's expertise.
Hotaru wrote:Speaking of which, when they went against Arael, why didn't they use the dummy plug? There would be no mind to contaminate so its main attack would be ineffective, right?
Arael was a precision-based mission. Not exactly the Dummy Plug's expertise.
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I see why not since the Eva would be bloodlust which means it will go out of control and destroying anything it in path. If it was used on 00 or 02 then they might beat him with some serious issues, but if it was used on 01 then he will win in a ease.
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I Accidentally Dracula wrote:Arael was a precision-based mission. Not exactly the Dummy Plug's expertise.
True. Poor Dummy plug.
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Well considering the Dummy Plug completely annihilated Bardiel, I would say yes, it could have beaten Zereul.
Well they didn't know what Arael's main attack was until it had already used it on Asuka. Although I suppose they could have started it up after the attack had started, but Gendo didn't seem to exactly care about Asuka or Eva-02 very much now did he?
Hotaru wrote:Speaking of which, when they went against Arael, why didn't they use the dummy plug? There would be no mind to contaminate so its main attack would be ineffective, right?
Well they didn't know what Arael's main attack was until it had already used it on Asuka. Although I suppose they could have started it up after the attack had started, but Gendo didn't seem to exactly care about Asuka or Eva-02 very much now did he?
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Based on the original series: The dummy plug was very efficient in killing bardiel, even as far as to go over kill on the plug itself. I think its very possible it could have given Zeruel a good fight and has a chance of winning. Yui was extremely powerful though so it is hard to say just how big a chance.
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It depends on whether or not Eva-01 could have beaten it without the offensive ATF?
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I Accidentally Dracula wrote:Considering the Dummy Plug system amounts to making EVA-01 go RRRAAAAUGH and absolutely destroy its most immediate target in a sloppy non-strategic way, and that's basically what EVA-01 does to defeat Zeruel in the canon events, I'd say yes.
Yui was actually quite efficient about taking Zeruel down.
- Took off the one arm; restored her own.
- Filleted him with her ATF.
- Smashed his face in when he tried a very last-ditch eye-lazer.
- OM-NOM-NOMed his core (and various other things).
Of course, things got rather sloppy at THAT point, but that's bound to happen when you haven't eaten in ten years.
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Would be an interesting battle, Dummy Plug vs Ver. seeing as how it worked ageist 03.
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