Archer wrote:where’s it shown that Gendo is loyal to Seele? I don’t remember this being touched on much at all.
, but I'm saying was
. Though to be fair, it isn't explicitly shown or stated anywhere, but rather my personal interpretation from the fact that regardless of knowing everything and the outcomes from it, he still proceeded with 2I and went along with everthing Seele had thrown at his direction up until the contact experiment. During the presentation, so to speak, of the Eva series to Fuyutsuki, he along with Naoko even asks Fuyu if he was gonna join them in their pursuit for the new era for mankind, which implies post instrumentality scenario all along, just as if he was speaking for Seele whereas officially it was proposed by him later on after the contact experiment. So much for subdueing Seele's plan and going with his own when all he did was what Seele
manipulated him to do and just for absolutely no personal or altruistic achievement, only after the contact experiment, he had a motive to come up with his own alleyway in things. And only after the contact experiment, Naoko mentiones Gendo being drastically changed.
Nothing is exactly shown or stated in favor of his loyalty or disloyalty to Seele before the contact experiment. So it's only to be judged logically from the discrepancy in his behaviour and way of performing prior and posterior contact experiment.
I agree with most of the things Lavinius said as I've already mentioned them above in the other post, but I do oppose with Gendo knowing Yui plan beforehand the experiment and the three of them plotting against Seele from the beginning. Clearly, if Gendo had known, he wouldn't have just knowingly ordered Naoko to come up with a whole thesis on salvation from every aspect from the Eva in a jiffy and apply that, only to go in vain and just go off the radar for a few days in grief and only to come out as a whole different person, let alone even let the experiment proceed in the first place. And in Fuyu's last words with Yui on screen, he clearly said he was with Yui's plan, not Seele's(which was Gendo's too for the time being). He also said he had just informed Gendo about the contact experiment of Yui being the test subject, obviously suppressing the fact that she was gonna stay in there willingly. And I don't think two of these can be short sighted either at the same time. Clearly Yui's plan was the valid and provident way to go in such circumstance, for the sake of Shinji. The three couldn't have been plotting from the beginning jointly as Fuyutsuki was clearly in opposition with almost everything Gendo was going with, which was Seele's plan, up until Yui had come up with her own and he came in alliance with her, Gendo still having no idea what those two were up to before the experiment. Anyway, in the end, these are all our own interpretations, and I respect them for that.
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