Rebuild of Eva re-released on Blu-Ray & DVD as 1.11

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition"). The final installment is scheduled to debut in Japan on January 23, 2021.

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Postby Guyver Spawn » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:14 pm

I wounder if Funimation will have it on Blu Ray also by next year or so.
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Postby cat42 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:18 pm

TMBounty_Hunter wrote:
cat42 wrote:They released DBZ widescreen in America before it was even released that way in Japan!

The problem with that is, DBZ was made for 4:3. The cels and film always have more than you usually see, so Funi's new master gains stuff on the side but at the same time they crop off what was on top and bottom of the previous release. What they should have done is gone for full frame release that gives you as much of the film as possible. Pillarboxing is perfectly fine. I'd rather have that then cropping to make it 16:9.


According to the FUNimation representative at their panel at Anime Boston 2008, the only thing they crop was the opening sequence. They did not crop the episodes themselves.

I regards to the filtering, I dunno about that, I don't watch DBZ. :hyuga_hmm:

Bandai releases are good too though, especially their Haruhi and Gurren Lagann release.

But that's beside the point. Since Eva 1.11 is a digitally animated anyway, as well as widescreen, filtering and cropping openings are a non issue. In all likelyhood, FUNimationwill probably release it in Blu-ray as well as DVD.

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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:58 pm

cat42 wrote:
TMBounty_Hunter wrote:
cat42 wrote:They released DBZ widescreen in America before it was even released that way in Japan!

The problem with that is, DBZ was made for 4:3. The cels and film always have more than you usually see, so Funi's new master gains stuff on the side but at the same time they crop off what was on top and bottom of the previous release. What they should have done is gone for full frame release that gives you as much of the film as possible. Pillarboxing is perfectly fine. I'd rather have that then cropping to make it 16:9.


According to the FUNimation representative at their panel at Anime Boston 2008, the only thing they crop was the opening sequence. They did not crop the episodes themselves.


Well, from the screenshot comparisons I've seen (which are sadly lost somewhere in the land of imageshack now), cropping was pretty much global. I'd love to find out that I'm wrong about at least some of my rage, but filtering was still cancer.

Either way, I'm sure I'll be happy with my Japanese 1.11 BD.

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Postby Jinroh » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:34 am

It's a good news, but it will be interesting only if the BR has a correct brightness level. If the quality's insane, but the picture's way too dark again, it would be useless.
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Postby Dartz » Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:53 am

I think this for people who have.

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Postby Ornette » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:42 am

Added a bit of info from: http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20090220/king.htm

"says that the digital anime won’t be directly transfered to DVD/BD, but that they’ll make new 35mm prints and create a High Definition telecine from the film."

Not sure if this is a good or bad thing.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:47 am

It just means DAMN. It gonna look good!

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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:23 am

If true, that is a bad thing. This is almost opposite of what Funi was doing. Instead of filtering old animation to look like the new, they'll crap up the new to look like the old. There is no point to it at all, and you're trying to pass the work off as something that it's not.

New computer assisted traditional animated is absolutely not a replacement for the good olde paint on cel shot on film. It's a whole new thing that has its own set of benefits and drawbacks. Bad things happen when people don't understand that and try to force it to be like the old.

I'll still wait and see if they're trolling or not, I really hope they are. I would prefer a proper digital transfer from tasty way above HD master. I hope the fanboys in Japan create a massive shitstorm over this if it turns out bad.

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Postby Lleonard Pler » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:41 am

Apparently, Gainax will keep re-releasing the movie until they reach version 1.99.

I just hope the 10 minutes of new footage are worth it.

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Postby qu4d » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:48 am

Lleonard Pler wrote:I just hope the 10 minutes of new footage are worth it.
??? When did they mention this? :x

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Postby Lleonard Pler » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:55 am

qu4d wrote:
Lleonard Pler wrote:I just hope the 10 minutes of new footage are worth it.
??? When did they mention this? :x


I read it at a spanish forum. Now I saw that it's not mentioned in the english news articles, so it may be false.

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Postby mat smith » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:13 pm

I'm generally ignorant of this kind of thing so here goes...

Is there any significance to the number 1.11? Why didn't they call it 1.02?

i.e. Because the 1.11 'version number' is a greater difference to 1.01 than it was between the original and 1.01, does this mean the changes between this movie and 1.01 will be accordingly greater than those between 1.01 and the original?

Or did they just pick 1.11 because it sounds cool?

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Postby BobBQ » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:35 pm

Because it's going to be released as Rebuild for Workgroups, of course.

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Postby Tokpile Quohog » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:12 pm

I'll just wait the 10 years for the rebuild platinum collection.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:15 pm

"I'll just wait the 10 years for the rebuild platinum collection."


But then they'll start to release REVAMP OF REBUILD OF EVANGELION. The all 3-D Super CG Hideaki Anno directed version.

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Postby Sceleris » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:46 pm

Ornette wrote:"says that the digital anime won’t be directly transfered to DVD/BD, but that they’ll make new 35mm prints and create a High Definition telecine from the film."

Digital -> analog -> digital? :S

Someone theorized it was to get the "cinema feel", but come on...

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Postby NAveryW » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:57 pm

So it's still going to have the film grain and jitter? <=/
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Postby Reichu » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:46 pm

Ornette wrote:"says that the digital anime won’t be directly transfered to DVD/BD, but that they’ll make new 35mm prints and create a High Definition telecine from the film."

:headbash:

Seriously, I'd been wondering how the hell they were going to "digitally remaster" a digital film. Ugh. :um-no:

I'm with this Sceleridosaurus guy:

Sceleris wrote:Digital -> analog -> digital? :S

Someone theorized it was to get the "cinema feel", but come on...


mat smith wrote: Why didn't they call it 1.02?

They're, uh, working in binary + decimal point?

Also, amen to TMBounty_Hunter for mentioning Funimation's sins with DragonballZ. That "remastered widescreen" bullshit totally turned me off buying any of their DBZ releases anytime soon -- and I actually WOULD spend money on that show if I could get it in high quality fullscreen, uncut, with Japanese + quality subs option, 7-8 episodes a disc, slim-lined packaging...
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Postby Ornette » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:38 am

then 2.0 would be 10.0

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:29 am

I guess I'm the only one on the planet who likes the grainy film look of the final film (despite any insignificant-imo- detail lost) in comparison to the spit shiny trailer look. The image clarity and smoothness from the trailers just bugs me.

I expect to be mocked but after having projected my subbed version of the Eva 1.01 DVD on a screen 20 feet high and seen it in glorious gloriousness I like the look. But I've always been a filmmaker who loves shadows so I'm bias.


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