Gundampilotspaz wrote:Not if Evangelion Unit 01 was subject to instermentality.
Evas aren't affected by Anti A.T. Fields, so they can't really be "instrumentalized". Yui manages to have some 'soul communication' with Shinji and Gendou, but that arguably isn't the same thing.
How would Gendo join Yui.
Is this a question?
Why would she be there if the Evangelion is not subject to instermentality? If the Eva's soul is not set free?
Since the 'Congratulations' scene from #26 basically equates to Shinji's final dialogue with his mother in #26' ("goodbye to my mother", and all), it could be argued that Yui is the only one who is "really" there in #26. I remember Dr. Nick's idea that the 'Congratulations' scene was a farewell hallucination to Shinji from Yui; an interesting way to interpret it, IMO, tho obviously not the only way.
Don't think so...
Once again, how? How would he go about doing this?
Do you really mean "he" here? Wayneiac was talking about Yui, so presumably this is a typo?
Yui was basically equivalent to "god" at this point. (Even GNR, evidently, needed to fuse the Lance with Shogouki before she could accomplish anything.) If she wanted to give Gendou his "retribution" and ban him from the Great Soul-Orgy In The Sky, I'm sure she could. Not to mention Rei (the one conducting Instrumentality) and Shinji (the one from whom Rei is deriving her decisions) would probably back up that decision in whole.
There are two better theories I can now supple after going over the information for 24 hours.
24 hours straight
My guess for the Eva series and Unit 01 turning gray is that when Unit 01 swung the lance and all the fake Lances disapeared , it destroyed all of their S^2 organs. And then Yui switches off her S^2 as well to lie dorment in space forever.
If I had to guess, I would say that the harpies destroyed their own S^2s when they skewered their cores. (There is every reason to believe that the Evas keep their Super Solenoids there, after all.)
And I have my doubts that Yui will be lying dormant in space forever. Eventually she'll crash on a planet somewhere and this whole mess will start all over again.
Plus even after the Eva left lillith, Yui was still speaking to Shinji.
Yes, because Shinji was still inside EVA-01.
The reason that Rei appeared in front of Unit 01 was to retreave Shinji and bring him back to earth.
Behind the scenes, Shinji ejected the entry plug on his own. Didn't need Rei's help for that, but he DID need Rei's help to engage in some long-distance soul-chat while he was falling.
The reason Rei appeared to Shinji in the end (as Neo Lillith) was to make sure that he was alright.
"Neo Lilith"? Sounds like something out of a really bad fanfic.
thewayneiac wrote:This is not correct. In fact Seele denies planing to put the souls into Unit 01:
Humans should evolve into a new world. That is the purpose of the Eva series.
We have no intention of giving up our human forms simply to enter the Ark called Eva.
Seele wanted the souls in the Black Moon, which was pretty much what was happening until Shinji pulled the plug. It was Gendo who wanted the souls in the EVAs so he could could be with Yui in Unit 01.
I'd wondered what the whole "Ark called Eva" bit meant, and your presentation of the material above helped my poor synapses finally make some vital connections.
So let me get this straight: Basically, Gendou:EVA-01::SEELE:Black Moon? Use Lil and Adam to channel the souls of all life into the Eva, where they'll all float around indefinitely as individuals in a single body? (Would that many souls fit inside one measley Eva? Or would EVA-01 inflate GNR-style?) So Gendou gets to be with Yui for all eternity, even though he has a helluva lotta company?
His instructions to Rei weren't especially specific, though. He says, "Merge all souls and then take me to Yui's side," not, "unite all souls inside EVA-01 so that I can be by Yui's side".Originally posted on: 04-Jul-2004, 08:10 GMT