What was Anno trying to say with Eva?

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What was Anno trying to say with Eva?

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Postby DatDude » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:54 pm

Just what do you think Anno was trying to say with Eva? I know this is big broad question, but i've been wondering lately.
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Postby Dave » Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:22 pm

Life sucks, but the alternatives are even worse.
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Postby Tabris » Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:37 pm

Although he's putting himself into the character of Shinji... I think just about everyone can relate to some facet of Evangelion. To me, he basically lays out the dilemmas of the human condition: the nature of insecurity, the nature of bonds, the struggle to find a reason to be. With it I think he stresses that the 'big questions' won't ever be answered... unless you find your own answers and motivations for them; that life will always be painful, but it can be acceptable if you find something to live for.

There's much more to my interpretation than that... but I'd have to think on it some more.
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Postby Shin-seiki » Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:35 pm

The titles of the two endings give a indication of what he was trying to say.
TV series: "Take care of yourself"
EoE: "I need you"

In the first case, that, as Tabris alluded to above, you have to find meaning and a reason to live within yourself; no one else can do that for you.
In the second case, that humans cannot live alone; we want to be wanted, and need to be needed. Or, as Misato puts it in #26': "I feel wanted, and that makes me happy"...

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Postby the_seventh_child » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:09 am

Shin-seiki wrote:The titles of the two endings give a indication of what he was trying to say.
TV series: "Take care of yourself"
EoE: "I need you"

In the first case, that, as Tabris alluded to above, you have to find meaning and a reason to live within yourself; no one else can do that for you.
In the second case, that humans cannot live alone; we want to be wanted, and need to be needed. Or, as Misato puts it in #26': "I feel wanted, and that makes me happy"...

Exactly what i wanted to say..
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Postby max3000 » Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:01 am

I think Anno's message was GET A FUCKING LIFE AND ENJOY IT INSTEAD OF BEING HOME DEPRESSED AND WATCHING THIS SHIT
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Postby DatDude » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:36 pm

Their are times when Max here bothers the hell out of me with his banter. Their are times he makes me laugh with his crazy antics, now hes graduated to reading my MIND!

I came away from eva with two things clear

1.) Life is worth the risk, even if it means going out into the sunlight some times. (DOn't ask)

2.) (completely unrelated to 1) Red heads = hottness :P~~~~~~~
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Postby feliwood » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:40 pm

There are two kinds of value that you can have as a person; value that others see in you because of your actions, and value that you see in yourself (Shinji moved from the former to the latter). And DatDude, redheads do indeed = teh hawtness.
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Postby Hunter21 » Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:58 pm

DatDude wrote:2.) (completely unrelated to 1) Red heads = hottness :P~~~~~~~


I knew that long before I ever watched Eva.
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Postby Vulkurt » Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:47 pm

max3000 wrote:I think Anno's message was GET A FUCKING LIFE AND ENJOY IT INSTEAD OF BEING HOME DEPRESSED AND WATCHING THIS SHIT


Well, that deserves a prize...
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Postby ChronoX » Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:10 pm

Life sucks, get a helmet

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Postby anatrok » Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:55 pm

He was trying to say Plugsuits are fucking AWESOME!!!


No, but really why does everyone (I mean a lot of people) always think there's some hidden meaning in every thing. I think it's more likely that he just wrote a story and because he is human naturally things that affect him rubbed off on the show. I doubt that a lot of it was intetional, other people see stuff like that.

BTW does anyone else think that teen spirt is the one song that embodies the meaning of Eva. j/j :lol:

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Postby Hexon.Arq » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:10 pm

"These people suck, but we all do."

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Postby Soluzar » Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:29 pm

My take on it can partially be found in the 'religious symbolism' thread. The other part that I didn't mention so much about there, since it was not strictly relevant, was that as anyone who has ever gone through it in the past will know, a depressed person tends to build walls between themselves and others. An AT Field, if you like, to use Kaworu's interpretation of the phenomenon. When Anno made this, he was just recovering from being very depressed. It's about not denying yourself those vital connections to others in my view.

For my money, other than the notion that we can become more than what we are today, ("young boy, become a legend") the only other concept of serious importance in NGE is that of the Hedgehog's Dilemma. We all feel it. Some people try to deny they feel it, by claiming that they don't care about contact with others. Some try to overcome it by being excessively physically intimate. Others withdraw right into their own shells. Some, and they are, in my opinion, the luckiest and wisest ones, manage to overcome their fear, risk pain, and even feel pain, but not allow it to stop them from being close to others. I think that's what the series is about.
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Postby Sectre01 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:13 pm

Giant human/alien/monster/robot/synth hybrids r0x0r t3h BIG one111!!!!

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Postby Reichu » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:29 pm

Sectre01 wrote:Giant human/alien/monster/robot/synth hybrids r0x0r t3h BIG one111!!!!


Yes, Billy, we know.

And I agree, Biscuit. But you didn't really need me to tell you that. ;)
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Postby Sventevith » Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:03 pm

Dave wrote:Life sucks, but the alternatives are even worse.


And there's where Myrphy's Law kick in.
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Postby Carl Horn » Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:53 am

anatrok wrote:He was trying to say Plugsuits are fucking AWESOME!!!


No, but really why does everyone (I mean a lot of people) always think there's some hidden meaning in every thing. I think it's more likely that he just wrote a story and because he is human naturally things that affect him rubbed off on the show. I doubt that a lot of it was intetional, other people see stuff like that.

BTW does anyone else think that teen spirt is the one song that embodies the meaning of Eva. j/j :lol:


As Asuka would say, "A denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial."

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Postby Reichu » Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:23 am

Carl Horn wrote:As Asuka would say, "A denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial."


When did Asuka say something like this? :?
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Postby Soluzar » Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:42 am

Reichu wrote:
Carl Horn wrote:As Asuka would say, "A denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial, a denial."


When did Asuka say something like this? :?


She didn't! Kurt Cobain did, in the lyrics to "Smells Like Teen Spirit".
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