Merridian wrote:there are still a few key themes that RahXephon blatantly rips in content, presentation, and execution—especially the way RahXephon presents self discovery and acceptance of one’s responsibility.
Can you elaborate this more precisely? Simply saying "the way something presents something" sounds pretty subjective. I could use more actual, solid references for the relevant wiki entry, which I'm planning to update eventually. (Yeah, right.)
That episode where Ayato gets sucked into a dreamscape where everything was hunky-dory in a fabricated Tokyo is a pretty bad Eva rip off, almost in its entirety.
Yes, that is one of the most obvious Eva references in Rah. It's so blatant, in fact, that Super Robot Wars MX combines the two similar scenes, with Vivace swallowing up both
Rahxephon and Eva-01. It's as if the makers of the game were saying "we see what you did there" to Rahxephon's writers.
I just don't see why you must use the negatively colored word "rip-off". Shouldn't it be reserved for, I dunno, real rip-offs?
Eva Yojimbo wrote:EvaXephon isn't a Rah basher; he said himself he liked both series immensely and just had fun noting the similarities.
Misrepresenting a show this badly basically counts as bashing, IMO:
EvaXephon wrote:In my opinion, RahXephon is a very entertaining show, but it is a clone of Evangelion, scene-for-scene, word-for-word, character-for-character.
Eva Yojimbo wrote:Like I said, it's not the "broad" similarities I find distracting but the much more unique and detailed ones; the hand on the breast is the perfect example but there are some more. I'm not concerned that the context/meaning is completely different, it's just the idea of taking something that unique to another show and blatantly stealing it.
Firstly, "stealing"? Wouldn't that imply some kind of illegal activity? Secondly, if you find small but distinctive borrowings distracting, do you feel distracted when you're watching Eva and you're aware, for example, that Ireul's AT-field patterns were directly taken from the Andromeda Strain?
honsou wrote:Yay someone linked to this clip, a perfect example of what i mean. No that is nothing like Eva, because RahXephon has the exact same bow as Raideen...
Why can't that scene reference two things at once? See how Dendoh references, like, ten series at once, including Raideen!
There's no law against that.
I think this scene is a perfect example of the differences of magnitude I was talking about: Rahxephon's entire design, including its bow, are references to Raideen. That's what I would call a major influnce. Then, we have one scene involving the bow which references Evangelion. That's an isolated, notable but fundamentally minor reference.
honsou wrote:Finally I wouldn't be saying this if the creator of RahXephon didn't specifically say "yes this is a modern retelling of Raideen.
Got a link? The wiki needs it, badly.
Shinji-kun wrote:If you don't think Rahxephon copied Eva profoundly, then watch this
Shinji-kun, I urge you to read this archived thread to see what kind of twisted fanboy logic this Evaxephon fellow is employing. His site, simply put, is not trustworthy.