Eva Yojimbo wrote:Does EvaXephon have that?Dr. Nick wrote:Can I have too separate entries for "Gendo clone", too?
Yes, on page 5 there's Gendo and Fuyutsuki clones, and again on page 8 there's Gendo clone. Notice how it's a different person each time!
A different framing, and I don't know if it's a motif in the series, but the angsty-angle fits.
It's the bluish blood that really made it an "oh wow" moment.
Let's look at it on a spectrum, with each link representing a peg or percentage of "similarity of context and content"; 1 being the most general and archetypal similarity and 10 being the most detailed and connected similarity.
I've uploaded a little something which I'd like you to assess by applying that sprectrum of yours. It's episode 14 of Gear Fighter Dendoh, and it's a shining example of why I think Rahxephon isn't anything groundbreaking in terms of plastering references all over the place. And no, this show is not entirely non-serious, although this is one of the spoofier episodes.
The episode has shit machine translated Hong Kong subs, but it'll only take 24 minutes of your life.
For instance, the character analogs
You should read that Quiddity's post I quoted, it uses such character analogs to great effect. In any case, Rah's characters obviously aren't just palette-swapped Evangelion characters: notice how even Evaxephon in his character comparisons has to split up and combine them to get desired results. Hell, he's even confused about whether Reika or Quon should be the token Rei-clone.
Eva Yojimbo wrote:Well, not necessarily because an accumulation of minor similarities should be taken into account.Merridian wrote:Comparisons between series like these are instances were quality is more important than quantity
Evaxephon lists about 170 separate similarities.
Here's my list of 145 similarities, compiled in one hour, which prove that Gaogaigar is an Evangelion rip-off. It's not a complete list by any means: It's been several years since I watched Gaogaigar, and I'm pretty sure I could also find a scene with an "animation of removing sunglasses" if I rewatched it. That way I'm sure I could ramp that amount up to 180. Also note how I'm avoiding totally low blows, like those "these episodes are the same, period" blanket statements Evaxephon likes to use.
These are in no meaninful order, and there are massive Gaogaigar spoilers ahead, obviously:
2. Fighter planes and missiles
3. A military vehicle explodes
4. Knocked to the ground
5. Close-up on eye
6. Angels and Zonders look similar
7. Enemy that turns up (El-07)
8. Energy beam slices a vehicle
9. Daring rescue (several, often J being the savior)
10. Power-up mode (berserk mode vs Bullet X energy boost, The Power etc.)
11. Enormous flying enemy (several)
12. Music plays important part (anything related to Mic Sounders)
13. Enemy is unharmed by attacks
14. A glimpse of a face (Gaigar's face under Gaogaigar's helmet)
15. According to plan (Mikoto's Zonder seed)
16. Disturbing flasback after battle (Renais)
17. Sphere-shaped wounds (rocket punch holes)
18. Not giant robots (most robots are vessels for advanced AIs)
19. Robot shields someone from debris with hand
20. Enemy latches onto an airplane (several)
21. Cute pet (Hana's dog, Miss Piggy)
22. Rei Clone (Papillon 2 is both an albino and a "clone")
23. Organization's logo displayed on walls
24. Captain and second-in-command
25. Rei Characters comfortable with nudity (Abel is a flasher)
26. Specially built cities (GGG has an artificial island)
27. Smoking habits (Kaji vs Polonaise)
28. Red-head with bad attitude and short temper (Renais)
29. Enemy that sinks things into the ground (El-25)
30. Cataclysmic events in the past (El01's arrival 3 years ago)
31. Motive of revenge (Mikoto's dead parents)
32. Dubious spy character (Kaidou)
33. Enemy with prominent legs (ZX-04, the Leg Primeval)
34. A character is a professor
35. Person inside of enemy (all Zonders)
36. Underground/underwater headquarters
37. Women who want attention directed at their breasts (Swan's slutty outfits)
38. A surprising romantic relationship with a scientist (Gendo and Ritsuko vs Entouji and Papillon)
39. Gestation symbolism (Eggs vs Zonder metal hatcheries)
40. Instrumentalist (Mic Sounders uses music as a weapon)
41. Tears of joy during reunion
42. Blushing kids (Reiko mostly)
43. Sexual dream sequence (naked Miko cheering on Guy)
44. Weirdo teacher at school
45. Throne on a religious symbol (J's seat onboard the J-Ark)
46. Odd eating habits (the AI robots drink oil)
47. Organization name written in capital letters (Gutsy Geoid Guard, GGG)
48. Giant angelic winged enemy in space (Z Master)
49. HUGE humanoid entity whose legs connect to a planet (Z Master)
50. Defeated by a long red weapon (J-Quath)
51. Excitement over new equipment
52. Twin enemy (Israfel vs Sound Robo Alpha and Beta)
53. Another world inside a round hole (El-25)
54. Construction work at the top of the HQ building
55. Forced to hurt a friend (when mind-controlled Guy turns into an enemy)
56. Biomechanical hints (Zonder metal is living metal)
57. Unable to reach robot (Genesic Gaogaigar's component parts are locked away)
58. Disgusting scene with internal organs (Z Master's insides)
59. Ultimate Attack shaped like a religious symbol (Goldion hammer = Thor's Hammer)
60. Creepy old men (Guy's dad)
61. Creepy loli (Abel)
62. The main city gets destroyed (at the midpoint of the series, episode 31)
63. Man creating god (Genesic Gaogaigar, the God of Destruction)
64. Robot's true form revealed in a climactic battle (Genesic Gaogaigar)
65. Robots made from enemies (Kouryu and Anryu)
66. Main scientist is the father of the main character
67. Girl transforms into a giant in the finale
68. End taking place in a strange Earth (Repli-Earth)
69. Characters meeting their true love before dying (Polonaise and Primada)
70. Model city (all of Repli-Earth's cities)
71. Bright light spreading on a planet
72. Final reunion on a beach
73. Alternate version of ending (Grand Glorious Gathering)
74. Show takes place in the early 21st century
75. A character is a gyborg
76. A character wears a visor
77. Launch chute scenes
78. Ridiculously low percentages of success
79. Importance of trains (recurring mecha motif in several Yuusha shows)
80. Ominous chanting (Seele vs the Hell and Heaven chant)
81. Psychedelic backgrounds (purification scenes)
82. Readouts are in English
83. Theme naming (Italian foods)
84. Colors match personalities (the Ryu brothers - feisty red and cool blue)
85. Main character is seriously hurt and hospitalized
86. Real-life footage (real photographs in Mikoto's album)
87. Robot with a barrier (Protect Shade)
88. Unbreakable barrier (Contra Fall)
89. True nature of enemies explained late in the series
90. Heroic sacrifice (several)
91. Computer hacking
92. Person who performs heroic sacrifice does not techically die
93. A character is good at playing a string instrument (Shinji vs Mic Sounders)
94. A flashback takes place near a prominent tree
95. People sprouting wings (Mamoru)
96. Robots sprouting wings (King J-Der)
97. Robot's eyes are dramatically revealed (Eva-02 vs King J-Der)
98. Swapping cores = swapping AI modules
99. Super long-range cannon that takes time to reload (El-16)
100. A robot uses a knife weapon
101. Mecha with a prominent mono-eye (Pinchernone)
102. Enemy is hidden within a cloud (El-09)
103. Whale-like enemy (El-11)
104. Ring-shaped enemy (Armisael vs El-12)
105. Ancient impact event (First Impact vs Choryujin killing off some (all?!) dinosaurs)
104. A robot pushes a massive object falling from the orbit (Sahaquiel vs the space station in FINAL)
105. Enemy with a strong force field is destroyed by using a focused pinpoint attack (Fusion Primeval)
106. Religious references (Abel & Cain, Hell and Heaven, God and Devil, Japanese deities?)
107. Defeating enemy takes well-coordinated teamwork (several battles)
108. Enemy talks about becoming a god (Seele vs Palparepa)
109. Enemies have spherical weak points
110. Non-human enemies that are actually humans
111. A character gets momentarily fat (Asuka's fat suit vs sumo Hana)
112. A character has ninja-like abilities (Kaji vs Volfogg)
113. Enemy takes control of machinery (Ireul vs El-15)
114. Enemy has whip-like arms (El-07)
115. Enemy has impervious skin (Zeruel vs El-17)
116. Enemy is made of micromachines (El-18)
117. Enemy swallows the main character into alternate dimension (El-25)
118. Enemy uses a psychological attack (ZX-06)
119. A disturbing alternate reality (ZX-06's alternate world)
120. Main character is so angsty he can't help his friends (Guy affected by the chemical bolt)
121. Organization has a branch facility in America
122. Antagonists with monoliths (Seele vs Sol Masters)
124. The show references an older robot show (El-14 & Gundam references)
125. Main character's supposedly dead mother is a metahuman
126. Superior foe destroys the heroes' command center
127. Move to a new command center after the old one gets destroyed
128. Metahuman mother has three different avatars (cf. three forms of Rei in EoE)
129. Same enemy agenda (Instrumentality vs Mechanization)
130. Same enemy motives (erasing the weaknesses of human heart ("minus emotions"))
131. Apocalypse (tangification vs visions of mechanization)
132. Everyone on repli-Earth dies, except of two persons
133. They're not technically dead, lol
134. A promise that the dead will return one day (Yui's promise vs the Oath of Courage)
135. Combination characters (combination Asuka vs combo-ryujins)
136. A character leaves Earth to wander space
137. Shinji is often called dickless, Guy literally has no penis because he lost it in a freak shuttle accident
138. American robot is defective
139. Warp missile escape pods resemble entry plugs
140. A celestial body disintegrates (Black Moon vs Pisa Sol's sun form)
141. Well-intentioned plan by aliens causes serious repercussions for Earth
142. Parts of backstory have to be gleaned from additional official materials (Gaogaigar videogames)
143. Flying wing aircrafts (Eva transport planes vs StealthGao)
144. Real-life naval vessels make cameos
145. Enemies have specific energy pattern that can be detected (blood type analysis vs the Z senser)