Possible Identity of Moon Giant

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Possible Identity of Moon Giant

Postby Reichu » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:02 am

This starts off with a split from the Data File book's thread.

CitizenGeek wrote:Image

The new LCL plant looks infinitely cooler than the one in the original series. Who's that standing, seemingly naked, in front of Lilith?

That's Kaworu and an unidentified white giant on the "Moon Base".

Also, doesn't Lilith's body look a lot more .... masculine in those pictures?

Lilith has her manly-looking moments in the original show, as well.
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Postby CitizenGeek » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:07 am

Reichu wrote:
CitizenGeek wrote:The new LCL plant looks infinitely cooler than the one in the original series. Who's that standing, seemingly naked, in front of Lilith?

That's Kaworu and an unidentified white giant on the "Moon Base".


That's not Lilith?!

/excited

Who/what is it, then (if you were to make an educated guess ...)?

Lilith has her manly-looking moments in the original show, as well.


I was actually talking about the unidentified white giant on SEELE's moon base, I mistook it for Lilith.
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Postby Reichu » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:12 am

CitizenGeek wrote:Who/what is it, then?

Adam or someone we don't know about yet. As far as I know, we have to wait for further info.

I was actually talking about the unidentified white giant on SEELE's moon base, I mistook it for Lilith.

Yeah, I was just sayin'.
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Postby CitizenGeek » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:16 am

Reichu wrote:Adam or someone we don't know about yet. As far as I know, we have to wait for further info.


If it is Adam, then there must be a different reason Second Impact occurred, right? And Gendo won't be able to use the plan from the original TV series for re-uniting with Yui?
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Postby Squiggy » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:58 am

I'm still giggling on the inside at the thought of a "SECRET MOON BASE"
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Postby Reichu » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:10 pm

CitizenGeek wrote:If it is Adam, it sure don't look much like them Evas.

Fixed your post.

Squiggy wrote:I'm still giggling on the inside at the thought of a "SECRET MOON BASE"

Seele has a SECRET VOLCANO BASE, too. Just watch.

Oh yeah: Ramiel = lol wtf. Kinda reminds me of something I made for a 3D Design class for no apparent reason. Makes me want to hunt down its remains and paint them blue.
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Postby CitizenGeek » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:13 pm

Reichu wrote:
CitizenGeek wrote:If it is Adam, it sure don't look much like them Evas.

Fixed your post.


Maybe it does in RoE? We haven't seen the RoE Evas nekkid yet, have we?
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Postby CtHuLhU » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:26 pm

... an unidentified white giant on the "Moon Base".

let's call it codename "1331337"
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Postby Rodeo » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:02 pm

Lilith being excavated on the moon? That was my initial reaction. And since I can't read the text and/or is not sufficently informed on the matter, my thought stands.
I mean it looks just like her, except she's in a very bad condition.

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Postby Reichu » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:17 pm

Rodeo wrote:<snip> I mean it looks just like her, except she's in a very bad condition.

Well, problem is, if Lilith's on the Moon, then you've got a blobby white thing that's NOT Lilith in Terminal Dogma oozing LCL with lots of little legs sprouting out where actual legs should be.

Unless she's doing the Quantum Magic thing and appearing in two different places simultaneously in two unique conditions. Or maybe the thing on the Moon is the undisclosed Third Angel (Sachiel was bumped up to Fourth). Or a Lilith clone. And/or Eva-06. Or something else altogether.
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Postby Squiggy » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:36 pm

My theory is that the giant is Kowarus Eva Unit and it looks like Lilith because it was probably born from Lilith like Unit 01.

Unit 01 will probably look more like Lilith this time as well because IIRC there was a screen shot of Unit 01s hand and it looked pale white rather than dark brown.
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Postby the_seventh_child » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:52 pm

That mark on the chest the giant has, can't be from the Lance of Longinus, can it?
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Postby Rodeo » Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:26 pm

Reichu wrote:Well, problem is, if Lilith's on the Moon, then you've got a blobby white thing that's NOT Lilith in Terminal Dogma oozing LCL with lots of little legs sprouting out where actual legs should be.

Unless she's doing the Quantum Magic thing and appearing in two different places simultaneously in two unique conditions. Or maybe the thing on the Moon is the undisclosed Third Angel (Sachiel was bumped up to Fourth). Or a Lilith clone. And/or Eva-06. Or something else altogether.


Well there's no-one saying that the two scenes are taking place at the same time. Atleast I don't think there is.

The somewhat bizarre way that image is set up leads me to believe that Kaworu in some angelic mumbo-jumbo manner is observing past events, years prior to the continuity of the movies.

It seems strange to me that there would be white giant (Adam or one of the other Adams) copying Lilith's trademark mask.

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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:18 pm

Rodeo wrote:It seems strange to me that there would be white giant (Adam or one of the other Adams) copying Lilith's trademark mask.

Lilith didn't put that mask on herself; Seele/Gendo did. No reason they wouldn't use the same mask designs for all of their comatose Angel gimps.

Look at the reflections in the pool of LCL Kaworu is standing in; the best way that scene makes any sense (given the manner of reflection and the nature of a body of liquid) is if he is watching a screen or projection.

If it is a screen or projection, could it be of the excavation of Adam or Lilith years ago? The surface surrounding the Angel looks like it could be Antarctica.

Methinks we are going to learn more about 2nd Impact.

[edit]Damn, I just restated almost everything you said. Sorry.[/edit]
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Postby Reichu » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:26 pm

@Seele 00/Rodeo: Since Kaworu has been seeing floating Seele monoliths in there, having an image of (possibly) Gehirn-era Lilith "projected" via the same technology seems like it could work. Though it makes one wonder (A) why, and (B) if Lilith, why they'd swap her mask later (the giant in Terminal Dogma has been observed with a different one).

And the mysterious red stuff. Is that really "LCL", or is it supposed to be the Angel equivalent that they've fashioned for Rebuild? (Core destroyed --> soul leaves body --> body goes sploosh.)

Hmm, this is a little offtopic. Image
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Postby marmotgirl » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:06 pm

Reichu wrote: Since Kaworu has been seeing floating Seele monoliths in there, having an image of (possibly) Gehirn-era Lilith "projected" via the same technology seems like it could work. Though it makes one wonder (A) why, and (B) if Lilith, why they'd swap her mask later (the giant in Terminal Dogma has been observed with a different one).


...and, most important of all, (C) does he get cable?

Sorry, couldn't resist :lol: Topic, topic, topic :arrow:

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Postby Reichu » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:54 pm

marmotgirl wrote:...and, most important of all, (C) does he get cable?

More like satellite, amirite?

I'll buy the book... uh... sometime or other.
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Postby NAveryW » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:39 pm

Squiggy wrote:My theory is that the giant is Kowarus Eva Unit.
That's a pretty interesting theory. I like it.
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Postby Reichu » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:48 pm

NAveryW wrote:That's a pretty interesting theory. I like it.

Remember that I said it first!

Reichu wrote:Or maybe the thing on the Moon is the undisclosed Third Angel (Sachiel was bumped up to Fourth). Or a Lilith clone. And/or Eva-06. Or something else altogether.

Assuming Eva-06 is Kaworu's Eva and all.
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Postby Squiggy » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:22 am

UrsusArctos wrote:Brrr...freaky! Lilith's legs resemble a Tree of Life now.

Hahahaha...now we have a good reason why GNR's eyes like that!

The Moon Giant is probably the unnamed Third Angel IMHO, but I did notice a vague pattern in the mask, sort of like Eva-05 or 06. Whatever the case, it looks a lot like TMA-1 from 2001: A Space Odessey. No idea if Nick has that one with him.

Prehaps one of these "angels" is the original Unit 01 that impacted earth after Shinji hit the reset button
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