Of Yui, 3I, and Other Tangents

[Good_Noodle]

Split from "Gendo's Mysterious Induction", lol. --Reichu


Ugh, this is making my head hurt again...
Lemme see if I got this right... Yui was anti-instrumentality from the beginning and brought Gendo and Fuyutsuki along, correct? They develop evas to defend humanity from angels, but not take part in SEELE's plan, but after Yui was lost in Eva-01, Gendo changed plans and wanted to proceed with instrumentality, or at least his own version that would reunite him with ol' Yui.

Did I get that right? It's been bugging me for a while.

[ObsessiveMathsFreak]

Did I get that right? It's been bugging me for a while.

Yui opposes complementation, but her goals involved initiating Third Impact anyway, but having a different outcome for it than SEELE intended. If Gendou changed plans, it didn't involve going along with SEELE, but seemingly simply being with Yui forever. But this may or may not have been part of their initial agreed plan.

[Good_Noodle]

Yui opposes complementation, but her goals involved initiating Third Impact anyway, but having a different outcome for it than SEELE intended.

Ah, interesting... any idea on what her original goals might be? I don't remember Yui being interested in bringing the Third Impact... Hmm, time to watch that latter episodes again.

[Opteron-O3]

Ugh, this is making my head hurt again...
Lemme see if I got this right... Yui was anti-instrumentality from the beginning and brought Gendo and Fuyutsuki along, correct? They develop evas to defend humanity from angels, but not take part in SEELE's plan, but after Yui was lost in Eva-01, Gendo changed plans and wanted to proceed with instrumentality, or at least his own version that would reunite him with ol' Yui.

Did I get that right? It's been bugging me for a while.

What? Where you get this from!!!! I never really understood instrumentality, so if someone could post a link, that would be great :)

Interesting way to put it though...

I would have to say, it's Yui being disappointed with Gendo, for what he's done to Shinji, and for going away from the goals they had initially set.

[Fearthebait]

just watch EoE more carefully and its easy to see thats what he wanted.

[Opteron-O3]

just watch EoE more carefully and its easy to see thats what he wanted.

Gendo wanted to be with Yui, was there anything else?

[BrikHaus]

just watch EoE more carefully and its easy to see thats what he wanted.

Gendo wanted to be with Yui, was there anything else?

I believe he also wanted to save money on his car insurance by switching to Geiko.

[Opteron-O3]

just watch EoE more carefully and its easy to see thats what he wanted.

Gendo wanted to be with Yui, was there anything else?

I believe he also wanted to save money on his car insurance by switching to Geiko.

Roflcopter! :roll:

But really, that was it right?

[Fearthebait]

yah, thats why he did everything. Now i am at a crossroads, end the discussion here, or go into detail about how his selfishness caused the events within the series using complicated vocabulary.

[Opteron-O3]

yah, thats why he did everything. Now i am at a crossroads, end the discussion here, or go into detail about how his selfishness caused the events within the series using complicated vocabulary.

I'd like to hear your version, that way we can continue the discussion. Maybe it'll help me with my essay

[Fearthebait]

Gendo only cared about himself in the regard that he would destroy/liquify the whole world in return for being with Yui again. Its obvious he had severe selfishness issues that up until his death he never overcame.

[Opteron-O3]

Gendo only cared about himself in the regard that he would destroy/liquify the whole world in return for being with Yui again. Its obvious he had severe selfishness issues that up until his death he never overcame.

Reasonable point. That leading to Yui coming back and eating him.

[Sailor Star Dust]

Part of the reason Gendou was so Yui-focused (I think, at least) was the fact that "I'm not used to being liked.", since Yui thought he was "a sweet person." (Which I think proves that Gendou isn't as "evil" as people make him out to be, the man DOES have a heart, he just doesn't want to always show it!) But with not being liked, hmm...Now who else does that sound like? ("What'll I do if people hate me? What should I do?") Can you say like father, like son?


Plus that one pic of Gendou from the OP (and 21'?) looks a bit like Shinji when older.... (Though I personally think Shinji would look MUCH cuter than "daddy-dearest" is. :P)

[Fearthebait]

interesting point, i just wish we knew even a tiny bit more about young Gendo

[ObsessiveMathsFreak]

Gendo only cared about himself in the regard that he would destroy/liquify the whole world in return for being with Yui again.

Liquifying all life appeared to be part of Yui's plan as well.

[Good_Noodle]

Gendo only cared about himself in the regard that he would destroy/liquify the whole world in return for being with Yui again.

Liquifying all life appeared to be part of Yui's plan as well.

Hmmm, explain.

[Ornette]

Gendo only cared about himself in the regard that he would destroy/liquify the whole world in return for being with Yui again.

Liquifying all life appeared to be part of Yui's plan as well.

Hmmm, explain.

Acquire S2 engine so I won't need power cables, check
Wait until the harpies have dispatched team Sohryu, check
Activate and grab son, check
Don't fight the harpies but let them do their thing, check

[Opteron-O3]

Part of the reason Gendou was so Yui-focused (I think, at least) was the fact that "I'm not used to being liked.", since Yui thought he was "a sweet person." (Which I think proves that Gendou isn't as "evil" as people make him out to be, the man DOES have a heart, he just doesn't want to always show it!) But with not being liked, hmm...Now who else does that sound like? ("What'll I do if people hate me? What should I do?") Can you say like father, like son?


Plus that one pic of Gendou from the OP (and 21'?) looks a bit like Shinji when older.... (Though I personally think Shinji would look MUCH cuter than "daddy-dearest" is. :P)

Very good point. You can also see it in EoE when Yui is breaking him down and admits everything and you can see how he resembles Shinji through all his cold-heartedness.

Gendo only cared about himself in the regard that he would destroy/liquify the whole world in return for being with Yui again.

Liquifying all life appeared to be part of Yui's plan as well.

Please do explain :)

[Shnooks]

Gendo only cared about himself in the regard that he would destroy/liquify the whole world in return for being with Yui again.

Liquifying all life appeared to be part of Yui's plan as well.

Please do explain :)

It's been a while since I've watched Eva, but if I can remember didn't she initially want to more or less "save the world"? Thats why she got into the Eva in the first place, to save the future and what not.

[Opteron-O3]

Gendo only cared about himself in the regard that he would destroy/liquify the whole world in return for being with Yui again.

Liquifying all life appeared to be part of Yui's plan as well.

Please do explain :)

It's been a while since I've watched Eva, but if I can remember didn't she initially want to more or less "save the world"? Thats why she got into the Eva in the first place, to save the future and what not.

Yea something like that... I believe you can see that in episode 21 and I think in EoE also. It's in the cuts where she's talking to Fyutski (I think that's how you spell it... :oops: )