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This teaser being so far only aired at the end of a TV re-run of Shin Eva on a Japanese TV channel is frankly absurd.
You'd imagine they'd want to put it on their social to drive hype and engagement, but nope.
You'd imagine they'd want to put it on their social to drive hype and engagement, but nope.
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The most coomerest anime ever made, probably.
I haven't played Nier but now I guess I have to.
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I haven't played Nier but now I guess I have to.
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Well Yoko Taro doesn’t hate Rei like Anno does, so maybe if it does involve the same characters, she’ll be seen as actually worth saving, and not equate it to retreating to an escapist fantasy that worsens life for everyone around you.
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I'm already thinking about this and I would say yes, probably. I don't like major projects like this to be hidden in "Everything Else". But we may want to wait for more information.
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If we are going the Gundam way, I would really hope it's all brand new characters with, I hope, only visual references and the like. Much like in Gundam, where one tends to have a Char like character, that uses a mask and is vaguely misterious, and so and so.
It's so weird because I really like Nier, and Automata is blatant in its Evangelion references, but I just can't warp my head around joining the two things. I feel hype, obviously, especially if this really is a new series and not a bunch of movies that come in an excruciantingly slow pace, but at the same time I feel like my expectations will be so high that anything, even the tiniest and stupidest of mistakes, will imediately sour my impression of this.
And, at the same time, I assume Anno is happy and cherfull and gay working on the Yamato movie. Boy oh boy.
It's so weird because I really like Nier, and Automata is blatant in its Evangelion references, but I just can't warp my head around joining the two things. I feel hype, obviously, especially if this really is a new series and not a bunch of movies that come in an excruciantingly slow pace, but at the same time I feel like my expectations will be so high that anything, even the tiniest and stupidest of mistakes, will imediately sour my impression of this.
And, at the same time, I assume Anno is happy and cherfull and gay working on the Yamato movie. Boy oh boy.
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I was thinking about the "Char-clone" and I think the most likely of the existing cast to become that recurring archetype is either Kaworu or Gendo, assuming they do indeed go with a brand new cast.
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Makes sense, since otherwise there is no character with an imediately distinguishable visual characteristic, unless we go to less obvious things, like Misato's fancy car or someone with a love for watermelons.
This is all assuming that Yoko Taro, insane troll that he is sometimes, doesn't just make a obvious Rei clone and calls her Rai or whatever.
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I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of easter eggs. Like the story is going to be about new characters, and OG characters will appear as cameos here and there. That's very in the style of Makki and Anno, they love that kind of pop-culture shit. I'm sure it can be Asuka, Shinji, Kaworu, Rei, Misato and others in different universes. Unless of course we will have full blown Asuka/Shinji story which is doubtful, honestly.
I'm more interested in how the audience will react to Eva show without Asuka or Shinji and others as main characters. EVA and the show's characters are basically one thing in the eyes of the audience. Will people even accept new EVA without OG pilots? I guess we'll find out.
I think I will be interested only if OG characters will be in it, otherwise, is there really a point? Without them, it's just another anime.
I'm more interested in how the audience will react to Eva show without Asuka or Shinji and others as main characters. EVA and the show's characters are basically one thing in the eyes of the audience. Will people even accept new EVA without OG pilots? I guess we'll find out.
I think I will be interested only if OG characters will be in it, otherwise, is there really a point? Without them, it's just another anime.
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You're right that Kaworu or Gendo are likely to appear in as archetypes in a brand nee cast, but Rei too. I mean, Rey Ayanami expy is a trope/archetype in anime.
That said, I think the most likely option is they will use the regular Eva cast (Shinji, Asuka, Rei, Kaworu) as protagonists. As I said, Eva is extremely associated to the characters.
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A new Eva series was definitely not on my bingo card, though I guess should have expected it, considering Anno's comments of being open to the idea of letting other people make Eva stuff. I wonder what it will be about? One thing I hope it's not is just another retelling of the same story with the exact same characters, now for a third time. If they still want to have Evas and we're leaning into the Gundam angel, then make it a completely brand new cast. Or, if you want to have the same characters, then go in a different direction and have it be a sequel that shows what happened after EoE/3.0 + 1.0 and how they rebuild the world and society, that way it would give us something new by showing us those characters post-development.
Hell, if you want to keep it meta, you could even add in a crossover element where the versions of the characters from the og anime and Rebuilds meet and interact. Spending some time in the Ghibli village with the Rebuild versions of himself might do Shinji some good (a meta message about learning to love yourself first). You could easily explain it by saying the trains at the station allow you to travel between different realities and timelines. With the multiverse concept being introduced in the Rebuilds, the possibilities are endless now. Maybe they could do a Crisis on Infinite Earths type thing where the og anime and Rebuild versions of the characters have to team up to take on a new threat.
Hell, if you want to keep it meta, you could even add in a crossover element where the versions of the characters from the og anime and Rebuilds meet and interact. Spending some time in the Ghibli village with the Rebuild versions of himself might do Shinji some good (a meta message about learning to love yourself first). You could easily explain it by saying the trains at the station allow you to travel between different realities and timelines. With the multiverse concept being introduced in the Rebuilds, the possibilities are endless now. Maybe they could do a Crisis on Infinite Earths type thing where the og anime and Rebuild versions of the characters have to team up to take on a new threat.
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I know people are saying this could be like a Gundam AU with completely different characters, but I don't want that. I think Gundam can get away with that since it's established as a thing, but not any other anime. I don't want want a Nier anime with the Eva name slapped on. I want Evangelion.
Exactly. Evangelion is the characters. If you remove the characters, it's no longer Evangelion. You can have a new protagonist, but Shinji and the gang have to be in there somewhere.
I'm also honestly quite shocked that this isn't an Anima adaptation. That sort of seemed like the obvious choice for what the next Eva series would be. Khara was even noticeably promoting it a lot more in the past year or two, as if they wanted it back in the public's consciousness.
We know essentially nothing about the plot. We don't even have a title, let alone a release date, which suggests it's still very far off. The one thing we do know is that it seems to be serious in tone, which is a bit of a disappointment to me. My dream Evangelion anime would be something that's more lighthearted in tone similar to Angelic Days, or Shinji Ikari Raising Project, or even Piko Piko Middle School Students. The Asuka short spoiled me a bit as that's exactly what I would like to see out of an Eva anime, so it's a bit of a let down we're not getting something like that.
I don't think this is just a one-off revival. I think this is the first in many new Evangelion series, probably with a new one every couple of years (or every year if we're lucky) each one with a different director/studio. That's what Anno has been saying for years he's wanted. For all we now, there may already be another series in the works, possibly with Naoyuki Asano at the helm.
Konja7 wrote:The issue is Evangelion is known for their characters (and Eva-01).
I know Anno wanted Eva to be like Gundam, but that's difficult. Gundam changed their protagonists quite early on, preventing a extremely strong association between the protagonist and the franchise (although Amuro and Char are still very popular).
Exactly. Evangelion is the characters. If you remove the characters, it's no longer Evangelion. You can have a new protagonist, but Shinji and the gang have to be in there somewhere.
I'm also honestly quite shocked that this isn't an Anima adaptation. That sort of seemed like the obvious choice for what the next Eva series would be. Khara was even noticeably promoting it a lot more in the past year or two, as if they wanted it back in the public's consciousness.
We know essentially nothing about the plot. We don't even have a title, let alone a release date, which suggests it's still very far off. The one thing we do know is that it seems to be serious in tone, which is a bit of a disappointment to me. My dream Evangelion anime would be something that's more lighthearted in tone similar to Angelic Days, or Shinji Ikari Raising Project, or even Piko Piko Middle School Students. The Asuka short spoiled me a bit as that's exactly what I would like to see out of an Eva anime, so it's a bit of a let down we're not getting something like that.
I don't think this is just a one-off revival. I think this is the first in many new Evangelion series, probably with a new one every couple of years (or every year if we're lucky) each one with a different director/studio. That's what Anno has been saying for years he's wanted. For all we now, there may already be another series in the works, possibly with Naoyuki Asano at the helm.
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The thing is, I imagine that when the first Gundam AU stuff happened, many fans thought similar things. "How can it be Gundam witouth Char and Amuro?" "Is it Gundam witouth Zeon and the Federation?" and such.
And, I'll be honest, while I like several Gundam AU series, there is always the nagging thought at the back of my mind that it could have easily been named something else, and not much would have been lost. Will it be the same with this Evangelion anime, assuming it doesn't use the old cast (which god, I really hope they don't, I love all of them but their stories are done), or will Yoko Taro conjure up some insane munbo jumbo filled with time travel and so on?
Man, I'm just dying for more info, any info on this. How am I supposed to live with a couple wrecked instruments and pretty backgrounds?
And, I'll be honest, while I like several Gundam AU series, there is always the nagging thought at the back of my mind that it could have easily been named something else, and not much would have been lost. Will it be the same with this Evangelion anime, assuming it doesn't use the old cast (which god, I really hope they don't, I love all of them but their stories are done), or will Yoko Taro conjure up some insane munbo jumbo filled with time travel and so on?
Man, I'm just dying for more info, any info on this. How am I supposed to live with a couple wrecked instruments and pretty backgrounds?
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It's not that different from Rebuild in my mind. It was EVA until 2.0 but after that, it might as well be called something else. Besides the names of the characters they were basically nothing like the series. With all the wacky flying ships, countless EVAs and character assassinations. The Pandora's box was opened in 2007.
So, whatever the new series will be, for me EVA was over with EOE. Now I'm just detachedly curious, and not expecting much. Call it an addition, or fan fiction, or extended universe, it's all the same.
So, whatever the new series will be, for me EVA was over with EOE. Now I'm just detachedly curious, and not expecting much. Call it an addition, or fan fiction, or extended universe, it's all the same.
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Justacrazyguy wrote:The thing is, I imagine that when the first Gundam AU stuff happened, many fans thought similar things. "How can it be Gundam witouth Char and Amuro?" "Is it Gundam witouth Zeon and the Federation?" and such.
And, I'll be honest, while I like several Gundam AU series, there is always the nagging thought at the back of my mind that it could have easily been named something else, and not much would have been lost. Will it be the same with this Evangelion anime, assuming it doesn't use the old cast (which god, I really hope they don't, I love all of them but their stories are done), or will Yoko Taro conjure up some insane munbo jumbo filled with time travel and so on?
Man, I'm just dying for more info, any info on this. How am I supposed to live with a couple wrecked instruments and pretty backgrounds?
The difference is Gundam started to change protagonists pretty early. The second Gundam anime (which happened 5 years after the first) has a different protagonist. That allowed the franchise to separate itself from the protagonist quite quickly (even if Amuro and Chat are still relevant).
In Evangelion, there has been too many years of the franchise being associated with the characters. It's difficult to imagine Evangelion and their characters could be separatas at this point
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Weird_ocean wrote:It's not that different from Rebuild in my mind. It was EVA until 2.0 but after that, it might as well be called something else. Besides the names of the characters they were basically nothing like the series. With all the wacky flying ships, countless EVAs and character assassinations. The Pandora's box was opened in 2007.
NTE is "Evangelion 2". This is even how Anno was calling it at first (as told by Tsurumaki in one interview).
We may as well just call the new series "Evangelion 3" until we have an official name. Or not, considering it will not be made by Anno himself (so it may hold similar status to the manga in that sense).
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If it's not made by Anno/ the same authors, It doesn't count as the same thing to me. / Is basically fanfiction.
That said, I liked Yoko Taro's work on Nier Automata tho, they seem like a good choice to produce something with a similar-ish flavor.
That said, I liked Yoko Taro's work on Nier Automata tho, they seem like a good choice to produce something with a similar-ish flavor.
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Well, Anno seems to still be involved in this anime (in an advisory role).
This new anime will likely be like the Evangelion novels or the manga.
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I agree. In fact, Anno was already delegating tasks way back in NTE. Tsurumaki was his right-hand man and was very important in the conception of the films. In any case, it's an official project.
If it's anything like the manga, I'll consider it a win, given its popularity (less hardcore fans usually see it as one of the main continuities).
If it's anything like the manga, I'll consider it a win, given its popularity (less hardcore fans usually see it as one of the main continuities).
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Konja7 wrote:The difference is Gundam started to change protagonists pretty early. The second Gundam anime (which happened 5 years after the first) has a different protagonist. That allowed the franchise to separate itself from the protagonist quite quickly (even if Amuro and Chat are still relevant).
In Evangelion, there has been too many years of the franchise being associated with the characters. It's difficult to imagine Evangelion and their characters could be separatas at this point
Another difference is Gundam had put out way more content before the moved on from the original cast. They had put out 140 TV Episodes, 1 Movie, 3 Recap Movies, and 3 OVA Shorts before they did something without any of the characters from the original series, which was 0080.
Meanwhile, Evangelion up to this point has only put out 26 TV Episodes, 5 Movies, 1 Recap Movie, and 3 OVA Shorts. Compared to other anime of its popularity, and even compared to anime that are a lot less popular, Evangelion has put out shockingly little content.
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