Toji was in storyboards for EoE? What's the context?
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Toji was in storyboards for EoE? What's the context?
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I read here that Toji was playing basketball in a wheelchair in original storyboards for EoE. What's the context for the situation? Is it possible to find images anywhere?
I read here that Toji was playing basketball in a wheelchair in original storyboards for EoE. What's the context for the situation? Is it possible to find images anywhere?
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NAveryW wrote:http://eva.netroof.net/faq/faqansw.php?mode=eng&t=904#q904eng
I read here that Toji was playing basketball in a wheelchair in original storyboards for EoE. What's the context for the situation? Is it possible to find images anywhere?
Kensuke and Toji were saying farewell to Shinji, because both them and Hikari were leaving (for Germany I think), but Shinji was too depressed at this point to care.
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I dug up a translation of the scene by Bochan Bird. Enjoy.
Missing End of Evangelion Sequence
I have attached the translation to a "missing" Eva movie scene found in the Story Board Collection (SBC) in the limited edition LD/VHS movie collector's box set. According to the SBC sequence, this scene comes just after Shinji's masturbation scene in Asuka's hospital room, and it carries some sinister implications if you read between the lines...
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Basketball Court" scene (Movie SBC) translation
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Notes:
- Cuts are comprised of one or more storyboard frames, indicated by "-".
- Production and editing notes are translated as is.
PAGE 506
Cut 31
Sound: (Jet noise in background, also some helicopter noise)
Description/Notes: [Evening]
- Transport jets fly overhead, leaving contrails in the sky. Slight wavy, dreamlike look.
Cut 32
Sound: (Jet noise continues)
Description/Notes:
- Chained Junior High School gate -- sign says "Closed". Gate is chained and locked with a padlock.
Cut 33
Sound: (Faint basketball dribbling sound)Description/Notes:
- Classroom interior strewn with rubble from Eva-00 explosion. Evening sun's rays reflect/sparkle off scattered glass shards.
Cut 34
Sound: (Basketball dribbling sound gradually becomes louder) Creaking/mechanical sound also heard
Description/Notes:
- School basketball court. All windows facing the court are broken, giving the appearance of an abandoned building. Sunlight reflects off remaining glass.
- Close-up shot of basketball bouncing. Pan following basketball to close-up of Touji's wheelchair. * Touji is dribbling so basketball should not be so far from wheelchair as shown in frame. (Please take care of that.)
- Pan out at end of cut. Wheelchair does slight wheely.
PAGE 507
Cut 34 (cont.)
Description/Notes:
- Shot of basketball court from over hoop.
- Basketball passes in/out of frame through hoop.
Cut 35
Sound: (Dribbling sound)
Description/Notes:
- Looking at opposite hoop through basket net. Shinji (leaning back against chain-link fence) Kensuke (filming transport jets overhead)
* Want to cut Touji and wheelchair from this frame, so layout is difficult. Why?
Sound: (Basketball banging against rim)
- Ball passes in/out of frame -- Ball bangs against rim and falls through net. (Pan down?)
- Sitting Shinji/Filming Kensuke
Cut 36
Sound: (Dribbling sound in background draws closer)
Kensuke: Class Rep and the others left on this morning's flight.
Shinji: ......
Description/Notes:
- View of Shinji's back through fence.
(Touji is hidden behind Shinji)
(Touji's presence felt only through dribbling sound.)Kensuke keeps filming -- jet noise in the background.
PAGE 508
Cut 37
Sound:
Touji: I don't know why, but we're all going to Germany.
Kensuke (not taking eye from camera): That's right -- tomorrow.
It doesn't seem to be an evacuation, though...
Description/Notes:
- Distant shot
Sunlight sparkles off glass shards.
Severely damaged school building -- Debris scattered over court.
Touji dribbles slowly and prepares to shoot at end of cut.
Cut 38
Sound:
Touji: So, I just wanted to say-
Description/Notes:
- View from behind Shinji, Touji aims while speaking and,
Sound:
Touji: Thanks! (speaks/shoots basketball at same time)
- Touji shoots.
Sound: (Basketball swishing through net and bouncing)
- Basketball rebounds to Touji's hand in time with dialog.
Touji looks up at Shinji.
Cut 39
Sound:
Touji: And I really mean it, Shinji. Thanks.
Shinji: ......
Kensuke: See you later, Ikari. You take care.
Shinji: ......
Description/Notes:
- Distant shot -- long, drawn-out pause.
- (as if to cheer Shinji up) Touji passes the basketball to Shinji without saying anything, but Shinji drops the ball.
PAGE 509
Cut 40
Sound: (Ball bouncing sound growing fainter)
Description/Notes:
- Shinji's hands remain where he failed to catch the basketball.
- Shinji's hands quiver/convulse slightly.
Cut 41
Sound: (Jet noise)
Description/Notes:
- Shinji's view.
The basketball rolls away slowly.
No one else is in the court.
Pan up (mid-cut) to jet contrails in the sky (stop).
-Fin.
Eh? Sinister implications? What does th-
OH. Oh God. I think I got it. If I'm right, then jeez, that really is sinister. But just in case, what is it that Bochan is implying?
EDIT: Oh, and also, Shinji had already said that Kensuke and Toji had left at the beginning of episode 24. I take it this was meant to be a flashback, then? But Shinji wasn't that extremely depressed until after he killed Kaworu...
'NOTHER EDIT: Also, it specifically states that Toji shouldn't be shown for most of the scene; even most of his spoken lines, you just hear him and he's hidden from view. Any ideas why?
OH. Oh God. I think I got it. If I'm right, then jeez, that really is sinister. But just in case, what is it that Bochan is implying?
EDIT: Oh, and also, Shinji had already said that Kensuke and Toji had left at the beginning of episode 24. I take it this was meant to be a flashback, then? But Shinji wasn't that extremely depressed until after he killed Kaworu...
'NOTHER EDIT: Also, it specifically states that Toji shouldn't be shown for most of the scene; even most of his spoken lines, you just hear him and he's hidden from view. Any ideas why?
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Alas, the "sinster implications" went over my head. Can anyone tell me?
Also, were there any other scenes that didn't quite make it/were scrapped?
Oh gee, where have I seen THAT before?? ;)
*reads info again, to see if I get it*
Implying that they want to get the hell away from Shinji??
Sarcastic? "Thanks for what you did to me; it's not your father's fault but YOUR fault alone"??
Well? That's all I could come up with...
Also, were there any other scenes that didn't quite make it/were scrapped?
- Shinji's hands quiver/convulse slightly.
Oh gee, where have I seen THAT before?? ;)
*reads info again, to see if I get it*
Touji: I don't know why, but we're all going to Germany.
Kensuke (not taking eye from camera): That's right -- tomorrow.
It doesn't seem to be an evacuation, though...
Description/Notes:
Implying that they want to get the hell away from Shinji??
Touji: So, I just wanted to say-
Description/Notes:
- View from behind Shinji, Touji aims while speaking and,
Sound:
Touji: Thanks! (speaks/shoots basketball at same time)
- Touji shoots.
Sound: (Basketball swishing through net and bouncing)
- Basketball rebounds to Touji's hand in time with dialog.
Touji looks up at Shinji.
Cut 39
Sound:
Touji: And I really mean it, Shinji. Thanks.
Shinji: ......
Kensuke: See you later, Ikari. You take care.
Shinji: ......
Sarcastic? "Thanks for what you did to me; it's not your father's fault but YOUR fault alone"??
Well? That's all I could come up with...
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Well, as for the sinister aspect I can only think that since they're going to Germany, SEELE has something "special" planned for them.
I'm pretty sure they're serious about thanking Shinji. I mean, come on, though he's not quite heroic now, he saved the world quite a few times before.
I'm pretty sure they're serious about thanking Shinji. I mean, come on, though he's not quite heroic now, he saved the world quite a few times before.
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They tend to put female souls in Evas so Toji and Kensuke are probably safe, their female class mates on the other hand.....
Oh, but God forbid any of these theories have any validity! After all, we are just brainwashing innocent people with Reichu's fanclub propaganda!--Trigger's Elysium sarcasm for the masses!
Well, since the MPEs used Kaworu Dummy Plugs, that would mean that the Evas could do what they truly wanted to (as Yui did when the Dummy Plug was activated inside her), and I doubt that the ol' class rep wanted to disembowel and eat Asuka.
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NAveryW wrote:Well, since the MPEs used Kaworu Dummy Plugs, that would mean that the Evas could do what they truly wanted to (as Yui did when the Dummy Plug was activated inside her), and I doubt that the ol' class rep wanted to disembowel and eat Asuka.
And I doubt Yui would want to crush her son's friend.
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Jeez, I thought Last B was bad enough, but this? Me thinks I'm gonna start having nightmares about what SEELE would do with killing them...
One thing that puzzles me is why would they want to do anything to those 3 to begin with? Touji I could kinda see, as he's the Fourth Children and all, but Hikari and Kensuke?? :? Just because they know Shinji and Asuka (and Rei, but she's not buddies with the classmates, soo...)??
I know! Kensuke somehow found out the Truth (about Third Impact) so they wanted to ice him Kaji-style to prevent such things from leaking out!
It's funny...when I first read the line about "We're going to Germany", I instantly thought, They're gonna stick around so they can harass Asuka if she ever visits there?? :mrgreen:
*spooky voice* Because it's all in Shinjiii's headdd.... Or just artistic license/weird camera angles for the hell of it.
In terms of Shinji being depressed, he seems to be always like that more or less (only time I think he WASN'T was during Action Arc) feeling that way, so he could just be in one of his moods and or still feels very gulity about what happened to Touji/in general what his two friends went through. *shrugs*
One thing that puzzles me is why would they want to do anything to those 3 to begin with? Touji I could kinda see, as he's the Fourth Children and all, but Hikari and Kensuke?? :? Just because they know Shinji and Asuka (and Rei, but she's not buddies with the classmates, soo...)??
I know! Kensuke somehow found out the Truth (about Third Impact) so they wanted to ice him Kaji-style to prevent such things from leaking out!
It's funny...when I first read the line about "We're going to Germany", I instantly thought, They're gonna stick around so they can harass Asuka if she ever visits there?? :mrgreen:
'NOTHER EDIT: Also, it specifically states that Toji shouldn't be shown for most of the scene; even most of his spoken lines, you just hear him and he's hidden from view. Any ideas why?
*spooky voice* Because it's all in Shinjiii's headdd.... Or just artistic license/weird camera angles for the hell of it.
In terms of Shinji being depressed, he seems to be always like that more or less (only time I think he WASN'T was during Action Arc) feeling that way, so he could just be in one of his moods and or still feels very gulity about what happened to Touji/in general what his two friends went through. *shrugs*
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Not seeing Toji would be artistic liscence. By not seeing him yourselves, it's implied that Shinji doesn't see him either. In other words, he doesn't want to see what he did.
The question arises as to what Toji is thanking Shinji for, or whether it's sarcastic (or if Toji means well but Shinji takes it wrongly).
I'd also be interested as t whether Toji expected Shinji to catch the ball and play with him, or if he actually threw it at him aggresively, pissed off by his detachment, and ditches him.
In addition, any ideas as to where I might be able to find storyboards (scanned?). I'd be very interested.
The question arises as to what Toji is thanking Shinji for, or whether it's sarcastic (or if Toji means well but Shinji takes it wrongly).
I'd also be interested as t whether Toji expected Shinji to catch the ball and play with him, or if he actually threw it at him aggresively, pissed off by his detachment, and ditches him.
In addition, any ideas as to where I might be able to find storyboards (scanned?). I'd be very interested.
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