Possibilities and theories for NTE

[ElMariachi]

If Shinji in his old plugsuit is simply just because they have one lying around or they make one for him, I’ll be somewhat disappointed, it would be cool if he got a new one (and you’d think khara would want to opt to give him a new one for merchandising). Unit 01 looks beautiful.

It's possible that Shinji's 01 plugsuit in the trailer is Khara's having modified it to keep the surprise (I mean, a completely new plugsuit would spoil that WILLE took him as a pilot and that he's now fighting for them for example), after all they already did a similar thing with the trailer showing Mari in a black plugsuit, which turned out to be the new white plugsuit with just the color swapped.

As I said in these previous posts of mine, giving up Evangelion Unit 01 would cause the Wunder to crash, so I naturally believe that even if it would be nice to have a scene where it is Misato who like Gendo tells Shinji to pilot the Eva 01, I expect instead that Shinji himself will have to take it back after it will no longer be in the hands of Wille's. There will be some good scenes of Misato regaining trust in Shinji,I don't doubt about this, but it would make more sense if Shinji were to make the decision he has to drive to fix everything. I mean up to now Shinji has never piloted without someone first explaining why he should do it (even when he went to collect Rei II Mari still told him something about why he should pilot). It would be the demonstration of his growth that he uses Evangelion Unit 01 for the first time as his initiative.

The theme of 3.0 is that people must communicate and work together to accomplish victory instead of rushing with a narrow-minded mindset that you are in the right and can fix everything, so to have Shinji do exactly that in Shin would betray that message, so I don't think this is how it'll go. Although I still have no idea how this scene of Shinji in front of 01 in what looks like its Eva cage from Tokyo-3 can happen. (except Instrumentality-induced mind fuckery)

Yeah, I have the same feeling! I mean, post time-skip Misato takes a lot of visual cues from Gendo. She also runs an agency that maintains Evangelions and appears to be "colder" towards the world. So it would be fun to see her take on a role similar to his in the first two films!
At this point, I'm pretty sure that Asuka and Mari will have some problems during their mission and Misato, out of options, will have to encourage Shinji to get into Unit 01 and help.

Post-timeskip Misato is basically a Nadia's Captain Nemo with boobs, both in the attire, the drive and their aloofness. Both even command giant flying ship and the Wunder's first flight is even accompanied by a remix of a song from Nadia, the parallels can't be more obvious!

Edit: This is a thread that's been split from the "Shin Eva-New Trailer (12-24-20)" thread.
-Zusuchan

[Heaven Piercing Man]

I'd say putting Shinji in the 01 plugsuit is a bigger spoiler by itself, and if Khara wanted to hide something like they did with Mari, they would have just kept him in the 13 plugsuit.

[GhostlyOcam]

Would it be considered a "spoiler" if it's something the marketing team think safe to show in promo footages? Shinji wearing the old plugsuit is one hell of a tease but it's more of a large breadcrumb than anything else, for now we do know he will wear it and pilot Unit-01 at some point in the film, but how does it get to that point is still a total mystery.

[Jäeger]

I still wouldn't bet in Instrumentality. Not after 2 "near impacts"

[FXArmaros98]

I'd say putting Shinji in the 01 plugsuit is a bigger spoiler by itself

For me they did it to maximize the hype. It's kind of like my earlier conversation with BernardoCairo about why Toei release so many trailers on the DBS Broly movie, some spoilers are needed to attract as many people as possible otherwise what's the other purpose of trailers shoul be?However, the spoilers that I feel they should have avoided giving us personally I believe are Gendo with the damaged visor and the battle between Evangelion Unit 01 and Evangelion 13.

for now we do know he will wear it and pilot Unit-01 at some point in the film, but how does it get to that point is still a total mystery.

Indeed, I believe that this was done on purpose to increase the curiosity of the fans, I'm sure a lot of us seeing Shinji piloting Evangelion 01 and wearing his old plugsuit instead of being angry for this revelation as a first reaction have wondered what the hell was going to happening and say that they couldn't wait to see the movie.

I still wouldn't bet in Instrumentality. Not after 2 "near impacts"

I don't even think I want to bet on what will happen, we don't even know what will lead Shinji to pilot the Evangelion Unit 01 again, it seems too early to give to be sure that Instrumentality will not happen or will happen.

[kuribo-04]

However, the spoilers that I feel they should have avoided giving us personally I believe are Gendo with the damaged visor and the battle between Evangelion Unit 01 and Evangelion 13.

At the end of the day though we don't know if these are spoilers. Maybe it's minor stuff all things considered, maybe Shinji doesn't actually pilot 01, maybe he pilots 13 again. Maybe none of the scenes featuring him in his old plug suit are happening in the literal Eva world (still am suspicious about Nerv being restored like that).

[FXArmaros98]

kuribo-04 yes, I too am quite suspicious of the images of the presumed Nerv and Tokyo III restored. But I really think Shinji is the pilot of Evangelion Unit 01, because I believe that instead of Gendo and Fuyutsuki to control Evangelion 13 could be Kaworu's soul. Because the pose of Evangelion 13 in the trailer not only is it apparently quite similar with which Kaworu appears in Ep 24 but if you notice well in both scenes there seems to be the sunset in both scenes. Maybe Kaworu wants to look like the real villain to defeat in order to try to redeem Shinji in the eyes of the world.

Maybe none of the scenes featuring him in his old plug suit are happening in the literal Eva world

Do you think that maybe those scenes could even take place in Shinji's dream world where he was talking to Rei Quantum in 1.0 and 2.0 or even within some form of new space created thanks to Instrumentality?

[kuribo-04]

kuribo-04 yes, I too am quite suspicious of the images of the presumed Nerv and Tokyo III restored. But I really think Shinji is the pilot of Evangelion Unit 01

Oh I think so too. But I think some things might be different than we expect and there's gonna be surprises.

Do you think that maybe those scenes could even take place in Shinji's dream world where he was talking to Rei Quantum in 1.0 and 2.0 or even within some form of new space created thanks to Instrumentality?

Yes, that's what I was thinking. The Seele monolith with the Keel Lorenz voice in 3.0 was pretty much talking about Instrumentality, maybe it comes back in some form.

[FXArmaros98]

But I think some things might be different than we expect and there's gonna be surprises.

Given that it is Evangelion we are talking about it is really likely that we will be shocked seeing the film.

The Seele monolith with the Keel Lorenz voice in 3.0 was pretty much talking about Instrumentality, maybe it comes back in some form.

I hope it does not happen because a return of SEELE perhaps in some divine form would devalue Gendo's role as main antagonist (although in reality I believe that some betrayal by Fuyutsuki against Gendo is not impossible, or that they will be the Evangelion 13 and Lilith in one way or another that be able for give to Gendo some bad joke).If I remember correctly when Fuyutsuki had turned off the monoliths Gendo had said something like that their souls have returned to their respective bodies. I guess the bars on the moon could hold SEELE human bodies.

[Ray]

I'd say putting Shinji in the 01 plugsuit is a bigger spoiler by itself, and if Khara wanted to hide something like they did with Mari, they would have just kept him in the 13 plugsuit.

Putting Shinji in the white 01 plugsuit is spoiler for them showing us at least some of what happened during the 14 year timeskip where Shinji was in Unit 01. Because the Shinji with the serious expression and the glowing purple eyes, isn't Shinji.

[Arcadia's legacy]

Because the Shinji with the serious expression and the glowing purple eyes, isn't Shinji.

Why not? He had both of those in ha's climax (Save for the eyes being orange)

[Ray]

Why not? He had both of those in ha's climax (Save for the eyes being orange)

One, it reminds me a bit of the glow behind Asukas eyepatch in 3.33. Also purple in terms of color theory is often a sign of contamination or corruption or demonic possession in Japanese pop culture. As opposed to the angry red and orange in the 2.22 Climax.

[BernardoCairo]

Also purple in terms of color theory is often a sign of contamination or corruption or demonic possession in Japanese pop culture.

That's true. In Japan, purple is associated with things like poisoning. But, if you want to explore the color theory, there are more things to consider.
In broader terms, purple can be associated with elements like luxury, royalty and power. That's because it was hard to produce it for the longest of times (that's why we don't see many flags with the color purple in it today).
It can also represents dignity, devotion and pride (things that I expect to see from Shinji's character in 3.0 + 1.0). That's because this color is created by combining red (strong warm) with blue (strong cool). So, it retains both warm and cool properties.

[EscapismIsBad]

Why not? He had both of those in ha's climax (Save for the eyes being orange)

One, it reminds me a bit of the glow behind Asukas eyepatch in 3.33. Also purple in terms of color theory is often a sign of contamination or corruption or demonic possession in Japanese pop culture. As opposed to the angry red and orange in the 2.22 Climax.

During the initial discussion of this new trailer a reputable member of this forum suggested Purple in this case actually means control over the situation and other meanings more or less similar to that, even by the cinematography you can tell Shinji is more calmer/mature and apparently master his abilities in constrast to Ha!Shinji were he's much more angrier, destructive and immature, he clearly didn't master him power at that time.
It's implied this is the final move of the movie, it is obvious most NTE trailers are near incomprehensible without seeing the movies, but they reveal quite a lot of stuff (speaking for Ha more specifically), there's even an Awakened Eva 01 revealed before the movie came out at some point.


Saying this Shinji is another Shinji is equal to that dumb Japanese theory of having 2 Unit 01 in the movie and could be compared to the Loop theory.

[Heaven Piercing Man]

I'd say putting Shinji in the 01 plugsuit is a bigger spoiler by itself, and if Khara wanted to hide something like they did with Mari, they would have just kept him in the 13 plugsuit.

Putting Shinji in the white 01 plugsuit is spoiler for them showing us at least some of what happened during the 14 year timeskip where Shinji was in Unit 01. Because the Shinji with the serious expression and the glowing purple eyes, isn't Shinji.

Huh? What does the timeskip have to do with this? Shinji was in his school uniform when 2.0 ended.

Saying this Shinji is another Shinji is equal to that dumb Japanese theory of having 2 Unit 01 in the movie and could be compared to the Loop theory.

Or the kids who say the Asuka in Q is actually Sōryu because the old plugsuit is reminiscent of a screenshot from Maya's POV in EOE

[Ray]

Huh? What does the timeskip have to do with this? Shinji was in his school uniform when 2.0 ended.

Lemme clarify.
I believe that part of the movie maybe even a solid 20 or thereabouts minute chunk of it, is going to be a flashback to what happened between 2.22 and 3.33, and this Shinji with glowing Purple eyes is not in fact the real Shinji. That is this is not the one who came out of eva unit 01 when Wille retrieved it from the Cross coffin in space. It is in fact, an angel imposter that emerged from Unit 01s core sometime during the timeskip and is the real reason noone trusts Shinji at the start of 3.33, and why he had the 'SI-03??" drawn on his foot when he was released from decontamination.

[Huagh]

But the Shinji that is wearing the white plugsuit, and the one with purple eyes is heavily implied to be piloting EVA-01, and that would be impossible during the time skip as EVA-01 is out in space.

[Ray]

It's likely it wasn't in space for the entire 14 years.

[BusterMachine4]

I personally think the whole "imposter Angel Shinji gets confused for the real Shinji" theory that GoatJesus created doesn't really hold up, for one main reason: the presence of Unit 13. That unit was the latest one yet in the time of 3.0, and its construction was just completed before the climax of the movie. The GoatJesus theory seems to be suggesting that the fight with Unit 13 takes place just a few months after 2.0, which creates a contradiction. That's why I think that the fight with Unit 13 has to be taking place in the "present day" of the final movie, and that Shinji will pilot again.

[kboyrulez12345]

I personally think the whole "imposter Angel Shinji gets confused for the real Shinji" theory that GoatJesus created doesn't really hold up, for one main reason: the presence of Unit 13. That unit was the latest one yet in the time of 3.0, and its construction was just completed before the climax of the movie. The GoatJesus theory seems to be suggesting that the fight with Unit 13 takes place just a few months after 2.0, which creates a contradiction. That's why I think that the fight with Unit 13 has to be taking place in the "present day" of the final movie, and that Shinji will pilot again.

This, all of this. I've been thinking about GoatJesus theory, and Unit 13 being being completed in 3.0 is a clear contradiction to it.