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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:19 pm

A couple years ago at a convention on the US east coast a friend of mine handed me a VHS tape. He said there was something about Evangelion stuff being on it or something. I was intrigued, but didn't get around to actually looking at it until just last week. Little did I know that it was a screening of Episode 1 of Neon Genesis Evangelion in the US prior to its Japanese debut in October 4th, 1995!

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The tape is labeled "Asunaro Club Anime Primer 101." This was recorded at a convention held in a Marriott hotel in Anaheim, California back in July of 1995. The tape was recorded in EP Mode to fit 6-hours of video onto a typically 2-hour cassette tape (when recorded in SP Mode), so the image quality on the tape itself is pretty low. This was not aided by my digitizing system, which relied on DVDs for data storage, and a single-layer DVD can record only about 1 hour of video in 480p. The image size for the video was squashed down to 264i to fit the 6-hour tape onto one single-layer DVD. I might try again later and just record the whole tape over 6 different DVDs to preserve the video in the highest possible quality.

The first thing on this tape is a rather clean (albeit several-generation copied) recording of Fushigi Yuugi.

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A photo of my duel-screen home theater system where I'm digitizing the tape.

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Macross 7's OP is killer and I might need to watch the rest of the show.

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Fansub of Maison Ikkoku.

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This bit of fan service was so well-loved...

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...the original owner wore out the tape.

After that, the tape begins play what appears to be a cosplay contest.

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A Sailor Moon cosplayer performing to the song "I'm Cute" from Animaniacs. It was also during the wider shots of this event where I was able to spot "Anaheim Marriott" on the stage podium behind the cosplayers.

After the cosplay contest, more anime begins to play. I'm quickly realizing that this is the closest I was gonna get to having an actual conventions in the year 2020, so I ran out to the store and got a few beers while the tape was digitizing.

To summarize much of this tape, what it looks like it happening is the videographer is documenting his experience at the convention, and there's a fair bit of production value in much of this tape. The videographer will talk with the coordinator of the Masquerade Ball, and there will be background music dubbed in at the ending stage of the tape, usually from other anime, accompanying this interview and many of the other moments the videographer decides to record while at the con. No panels were included in this tape, but there's a lot of discussions at hotel rooms and hotel lobbies among friends. I don't think I would have been as enthralled about all of this if it weren't for the fact that all my convention fun had to be shut down this year due to the plague.

Anyway, the videographer points his camera at a computer monitor displaying text in Microsoft WordPad in order to include on-screen titles, and that's where I found any evidence as to the date this tape was recorded.

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Presumably, "Megumi" is here.

I have no idea who "Megumi" is, and I'm not really gonna go back and rewatch the conversational bits in the tape to find out just yet. That is all besides the point anyway. The graphic was included to give a date to the time during which this tape was recorded.

July 7th, 1995.

There's some more conversations and going back and forth to the Artists' Alley and (I presume) the Dealers' Room, all with some anime playing between these segments. My guess is that the videographer is plugging his camera equipment directly into the VCR playing the tapes in the video rooms in order to get the cleanest possible recording of the shows he saw that weekend.

And then it happens...

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I wanted to take the time to compare the difference between this version of Eva and the versions released on VHS by A.D. Vision later in 1996, but I don't have the equipment to bypass copy-protection on VHS tapes just yet. (It's cheap, but I'm both constantly preoccupied and often times forgetful.) But I did play my VHS copies of the show anyway just to compare the differences in the subtitles.

Asunaro Tape wrote:Like a cruel angel…

…young boy become a legend.

A.D. Vision Tape wrote:Like an angel that has no sense of mercy...

Rise, young boy, to the heavens like a legend…

Also, Asunaro Subs don’t translate the on-screen text in the opening credits. Asunaro subtitles are green for the songs, white for the Tokyo-3 broadcasted announcements, and yellow for the show’s dialogue, while A.D. Vision’s subs are yellow throughout.

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the subbers also just placed a black box over the original Japanese text and placed the English translation of that text in the black box.


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Only translating the interesting part of the message, I see... :rolleyes:

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No subtitle translating "Shinji Ikari" printed on the photograph.

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"Angels," and not "Apostles."

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This makes it sound like the original spoken Japanese word should have been "Naaaaani?!"

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No need to translate English-ish type words, I guess.

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So far I don't think any subber has put up with the original series' nonsense of using "Third Children" in a singular form.

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"Father"? With a capital "F"? Do we also meet the "Son" and the "Holy Ghost"?

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Weird how A.D. Vision's "I mustn't run away" became the iconic localization of the translation of the original Japanese phrase, to the point where everything else feels wrong to me.


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After that, another set of text fades onto the screen, and then abruptly gets cut off by the videographer stopping the recording in order to videotape other things.

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Translation:
TV edition preview (last episode of the previous program)
Thanks to JoelcrNeto's post here.

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The videographer then went on to record a bunch of AMVs being screened in another video room. They all kinda sucked, with a lotta gaps between shots edited together and tracking that adjusts with every new cut, but I gotta hand it to the folks who edited their own AMVs using two VCRs. I had to do that as a middle schooler with footage I shot, and I understand the struggle.

Later on in the tape, we get the final makeshift on-screen title from the videographer, giving us another timestamp.

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There is footage of video games being played on the tape after this title card.

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Last days of cons always depress me in a limbo sort of way.


July 9th, 1995.

There another cosplay performance that happens involving some kick-ass Appleseed Ex Machina characters, presumably during the convention's closing ceremonies, but I think I'll stop posting screen caps for the time being.

There it is. As far as I can tell, this is evidence that some lucky fans in Anaheim, California got to see Episode 1 Evangelion before many Japanese people did, which really blows my mind!

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Postby Line » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:46 pm

What I'm the most curious is who the fuck is Kennedy Adamstein and of what the last texting is blabbering about? :huh:

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Postby Blockio » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:15 pm

That is really cool, and a strange bit of Eva history on top of that. Someone ought to put this up on the wiki somewhere, but I have no idea where it would even go
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Postby robersora » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:10 pm

This is a really cool find, chronicling an important time of blossoming Otakudom in America. Thanks for putting in the work preserving this interesting gem of history!
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:10 am

View Original PostBlockio wrote:That is really cool, and a strange bit of Eva history on top of that. Someone ought to put this up on the wiki somewhere, but I have no idea where it would even go

Much of the Wiki is (rightfully) dedicated to canon and lore materials. If there are any Wiki entires detailing the fans' relationship with Eva throughout history (possibly somewhat like the Mangazine review or early screenings like this), they don't seem to be as easily discoverable.

I like these kinds of findings because it shows how the fandom evolves over the years. I found another otaku-type US publication from 1990 called "Protoculture Addicts" that announces the US debut of Gunbuster: Aim for the Top on VHS tape. I'm probably gonna post those within the week in the "Related Works and People" subforum.

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Postby Berserker » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:04 am

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:
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"Father"? With a capital "F"? Do we also meet the "Son" and the "Holy Ghost"?

This really made me lol.
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What's this "Not for sell or rent" thing about? It got me curious because i guess they tried to mix it with the ending credit. And obviously the destiny of any tape like this is getting sold or rented. Sorry for such a dumb question.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:03 am

View Original PostBerserker wrote:What's this "Not for sell or rent" thing about? It got me curious because i guess they tried to mix it with the ending credit. And obviously the destiny of any tape like this is getting sold or rented. Sorry for such a dumb question.

My guess is that, at least within terms of the fansubbed anime, it's the con or the VHS owner's way of trying to adhere to copyright law while still having an unofficial, screenable copy of the anime. I don't think it actually adheres to copyright law, though. The tapes were still pirated, but with the anime market such as it was (and Evangelion not even being released in Japan yet!) these pirated tapes were the only way a US audience could appreciate certain anime titles. It's basically Pirate Bay before Pirate Bay.

I do wonder if the Eva subbers somehow got their hands on a Japanese promotional tape for Evangelion. The Evangelion episode shown was subbed by Central Anime, and doesn't display the text "fansub," to "subbed by fans for fans," like a lot of the other anime on this tape displayed. I know I've seen some someone on this forum post pictures of some promotional screener tapes for Evangelion: Death & Rebirth and End of Evangelion, and promotional screener tapes generally were created by the rights holders with the idea that the tape owner had a license to show the tape prior to the official release of the film in certain venues. (Central Anime's sub credits makes me think that a legit business would want to steer as clear from actual pirated video material as possible.) This whole thing proves that Episode 1 was already animated and finished at least 3 months before air time in Japan, and I wonder how typical/realistic that is for Japanese animation studios to have something finished that far in advance. (I mean, compare this to Anno's constant last-minute changes in his current output, where stuff is tweaked just mere weeks or even days before its premiere.)

EDIT: At first I thought "Central Anime" was "Central Park Media," (a legit US distribution anime company that operated back in the 90's) but it's NOT. Central Anime is an honest-to-god for real fan sub community that was formed back in 1992 AND THEIR WEBSITE IS STILL ONLINE!!!!!

THEY'VE EVEN GOT A FORUM!!!


It's 90's American otaku-looking as hell, and I love it! This is like the anime version of the Space Jam website!

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Postby UrsusArctos » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:47 am

Fascinating, absolutely fascinating.

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Much of the Wiki is (rightfully) dedicated to canon and lore materials. If there are any Wiki entires detailing the fans' relationship with Eva throughout history (possibly somewhat like the Mangazine review or early screenings like this), they don't seem to be as easily discoverable.


NA and European Eva fandom was in a much different status at the time the wiki was established, not to mention a lot of the old-time fans were younger and saw themselves as part of a growing fandom. Knowledge of the fandom's origin was largely tacit, and we were interested to dig into all the new Evangelion stuff coming in with Rebuild at the time. So detailing the history and evolution of what was a 12-year old fandom at the time the wiki was established (and a lot smaller too) seemed to be somewhat pointless. Now, of course, it's been 25 years of Evangelion, the NA and European fandoms have grown and changed in the 13 years since the wiki was established, and things are generally...different.

So creating a new wiki space for the history and growth of the fandom really may not be a bad idea. I certainly see stuff like this going on the wiki as part of "resources", if nothing else. I'd have to search for other old resources and other materials and see what resources we can promote on the front page of the wiki, but that's an entirely different discussion.
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Postby Zusuchan » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:50 am

This is an exceptionally cool find, Freaky! I know I've already said it, but seeing this detailed post really made me appreciate the awesomeness of this even more. I'm really interested by the fact that ep.1 was ready as soon as it was too (especially since the series ended up having such serious time issues) and the (seemingly) pretty good subtitles.

Oh, and by the way-Netflix's subs still have the plural "Children" form as the designation of an individual pilot.

Ursus: I agree with this going into the "Resources" part of the Wiki. The whole discussion about fandom history being chronicled on the Wiki is a far different and more complicated discussion, so I'm not going to comment on that besides from it perhaps being a good idea.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:03 am

View Original PostZusuchan wrote:Oh, and by the way-Netflix's subs still have the plural "Children" form as the designation of an individual pilot.

25 years of English-speaking fans and translators keeping up the good fight and making sure other English-speaking fans don’t go insane trying to read any dumb transliterations, and Netflix just said “Eh, they say ‘Third Children.’ Why contest it?”

It’s almost tragic.

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Postby UrsusArctos » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:43 am

"Children" sounds ungrammatical as all hell and was imposed by Khara rather than being Netflix's choice. FWIW, the idea of using "Children" in the original appears to have been a deliberate choice, not due to a lack of English language skills - it was meant as a collective noun, with terms like "First Children", "Second Children" and so on in the sense of "First of the Children", "Second of the Children". Probably a Childhood's End reference. I'd have to dig up the proverbial "sauce" on that.

Anyway...Tragic? Stupid? :shrug:
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:39 am

Actually translating it as "First of the Children" would also make sense to me, and I wonder why that compromise wasn't made. Maybe using the word "Children" is meant to distinguish NGE from NTE, which does actually use "First Child," IIRC.

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Postby Lavinius » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:46 am

o_O

The date misalignment makes this feel like some kind of creepypasta.

Do you have any idea how they might have gotten their hands on this? Was a sample episode distributed to American distributors even before airing in Japan, and one of them leaked it or something?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:59 am

I've no idea how they got their hands on an early copy of Eva Ep 01, but sometime tomorrow I plan on creating an account on their forum to ask questions and stuff. This intrigues me to no end.

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Postby UrsusArctos » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:31 am

Central Anime is still up? O_o

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Actually translating it as "First of the Children" would also make sense to me, and I wonder why that compromise wasn't made. Maybe using the word "Children" is meant to distinguish NGE from NTE, which does actually use "First Child," IIRC.


Here's another one of those "blast from the past" things, it turns out that the answer to this was put up on the Eva Mailing List way back in 1999-
Widya Santoso's EML Eva FAQ V0.6.3 wrote:According to a Evangelion date/address book, as Rei was not one child, but
several identical clone children, she was referred to as the "First
Children." It is surmised that to protect/hide this information, following
Evangelion pilots were referred to as the "n-th Children".
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:43 am

Fascinating. I guess that kinda makes sense, but it's impossible to decipher all that from the grammatically weird "n-th Children" phrase.

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:Central Anime is still up? O_o

Yeah, man! Their forum still seems somewhat active and their website is still up like it's some anime version of the Space Jam website!

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Postby Berserker » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:20 pm

Oh, i forgot to ask, how's the audio quality? You surely miss half of the excitement if you can't chill on cruel angel's thesis in the first place. :D
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:49 pm

The audio quality was pretty good, actually. The videographer seemed to have been plugging his video camera directly into the video feed for the video rooms where anime was watched. Many VHS camcorders had a “VCR” setting, where the camera could be plugged into a VCR and record video and sound from that player, just like a normal VCR. The source video for Eva seemed pretty clean (unlike the source video for Maison Ikkoku during the fan service scenes), so everything was pretty clean throughout.

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Postby Mt Olympus » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:27 pm

Very cool. Thank you for sharing!

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Postby JoelcrNeto » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:04 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:After that, another set of text fades onto the screen, and then abruptly gets cut off by the videographer stopping the recording in order to videotape other things.

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I have no idea what this says. Anyone know Japanese?



There's nothing interesting written there:

『TV版予告編(前番組最終話)』
TV-ban yokokuhen (zen bangumi saishū-banabi)

Translation:
TV edition preview (last episode of the previous program)
“Like a miracle, life starts with the pain / Forever this will be” — “Heroes of Sand” by Angra.


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