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Postby Analyzor » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:18 pm

Hi there, I started speculating about this famous image that sadly still remains a mystery. Here's what I have found:

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On red we have some kind of "lights" like there is a wall or ceiling. It seems there isn't any sky. These white lights seem too linear in the gif, I dont think they are clouds.
On green we can see something like a sunflower
In yellow what it seems some kind of pipeline that forks both up and down, the upper one heading to this kind of window (in red).
In blue we can see something like a cleat maybe? it's definitely metal and manmade.
In purple just by the cleat some manmade lines that for me is marking like a limit for something (maybe it's a picture from a ship?)

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In this frame we can see it better:
It's interesting to note that this cleat seems attached to this other one.
And in yellow in this frame we can see some kind of pipe where 2 cables are being released.
In purple we can see snow? on the lines.
In green we can see some kind of signal
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More pictures here. We usually watch it filtered, that removes some light colors and like these lights are removed as well.
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The landscape seems to be snowy but there are also lights or manmade things in the sky like a ceiling... I don't think there are any people in this image.

What are your guesses?



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These seem like broken trees to me, stumps and branches. And the lines at the bottom right could be a road. Maybe it's a picture showing the cataclysmic effects in Earth of the 2nd Impact?
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Postby Analyzor » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:44 pm

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Postby Blockio » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:00 pm

With the tower thing in the middle, it just looks like a photo of a playground to me. Like that one Smash Bros Brawl stage and the reflection in Lara Croft's glasses, I expect that it is just going to be some or another stock image that was distorted and used as an overlay to create an unsettling effect.

This is a very surreal sequence to begin with, so I wouldn't read too much meaning into a graphic filter
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Postby Lavinius » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:47 am

I've always rorschached that as being a picture of Adam being excavated & experimented on- the white sphere in the center, beneath the crane, is his head, and you can see his shoulders to either side. That also would explain the snow, and the weird structures all over.
I don't have much if any confidence that that's what it's actually supposed to suggest, of course.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:20 am

View Original PostBlockio wrote:This is a very surreal sequence to begin with, so I wouldn't read too much meaning into a graphic filter


Anno did sneak some pretty important imagery in the midst of the stock photographs, like the one of Adam being excavated, and Eva-01 being "born" from Lilith, so I wouldn't dismiss this so quickly.

I see what vaguely looks like a covered head and an entry plug. Could this be the Contact Experiment with Adam that led to 2I?
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Postby Analyzor » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:07 pm

Some more analysis

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Green might be a well. Yellow might be some kind of rudder

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Postby BusterMachine4 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:46 pm

I don’t see the point of analyzing these images. They deleted them on the Renewal release for a reason.

But despite that, my best guess on the image is that it’s intended to represent a town that was ravaged by Second Impact. You can see what vaguely looks like a house in the background of the image, and the whole thing looks torn up and destroyed.

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Postby pwhodges » Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:50 pm

View Original PostBusterMachine4 wrote:I don’t see the point of analyzing these images. They deleted them on the Renewal release for a reason.

But before that they published them, presumably also for a reason...

Actually, what interests me in regard to that is that they are pretty much the only thing missing from the combined bluray and archive dvd boxes (which you could argue supports your view).
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Postby Blockio » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:04 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:Actually, what interests me in regard to that is that they are pretty much the only thing missing from the combined bluray and archive dvd boxes (

In that case, finding the original image ought to be easy; if you feed the original frame with the overlay and new frame without the overlay into a neural network for watermark/background removal, that will probably give us the best look at whatever the image used for the overlay is
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Postby thewayneiac » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:19 pm

That thing in the foreground,( blinking red above), still looks like a giant head to me.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:58 pm

Aloha, Wayne! Long time no see. I was referring to the red-blinking thing too, and now that I look at it again, it looks like an Ultraman head if nothing else. There's that other weird Rei tank image of Adam being drawn like Ultraman, so I'm guessing it's Adam after all. (Although why they drew her like Ultraman is anyone's guess :headscratch:)
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Postby Analyzor » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:29 am

View Original PostBusterMachine4 wrote:I don’t see the point of analyzing these images. They deleted them on the Renewal release for a reason.

But despite that, my best guess on the image is that it’s intended to represent a town that was ravaged by Second Impact. You can see what vaguely looks like a house in the background of the image, and the whole thing looks torn up and destroyed.


They included them later in a Director's Cut also for a reason. Most notably to know that EVA01 is Lilith's lower half, and that the spear activated itself to neutralize Adam.

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Postby EvaUnitREM » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:02 am

Interesting, surprisingly i've never actually head of this image until now, so I will start doing some research to try and help with your investigation!!!

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Postby Analyzor » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:38 pm

I've asked for some help at the spanish forum Forocoches, no one can tell anything yet.

At least I can share this from a member:

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https://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthr ... t383747968

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Postby Blockio » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:27 pm

Oh yeah, that last picture looks a lot more convincing than the rest of the speculation. Some people in traditional wear overseeing a harbor is definitely the best guess currently
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Postby GuiBiancarelli » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:52 pm

I ran the image through an AI enhancer and colorizer, and increased its contrast and color curvature afterwards. Follows the result:

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I found some interesting details in it, follows:

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Any thoughts?

EDIT: Fixed image links.
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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:55 pm

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Postby Analyzor » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:32 am

I was wondering if the 2 long black lines on the centre-right could be part of the Spear of Longinus...
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:03 am

If the thing on the lower-left corner is a person in very heavy winter clothing, it could mean it's someone overlooking Adam's excavation from the ice. The head-like object resembles Ultraman's head, which is why I think it's Adam being excavated.
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Postby Bagheera » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:11 pm

View Original PostLavinius wrote:I've always rorschached that as being a picture of Adam being excavated & experimented on- the white sphere in the center, beneath the crane, is his head, and you can see his shoulders to either side. That also would explain the snow, and the weird structures all over.
I don't have much if any confidence that that's what it's actually supposed to suggest, of course.


That seems the best fit to me as well. Partly because Adam’s excavation is a running theme in the images, partly because if the Ultraman head, partly because the snow and associated gear does a lot to explain the “blobbiness” of the stuff in the image. It all just sorta fits.

It’s still be nice if we could isolate that one layer though. All we need is the original footage, Adobe AfterEffects, and someone who knows what they’re doing. How hard can that be???
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