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Postby Blockio » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:41 pm

Yeah, German "ch" can be a very hard sound depending on the word and dialect
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Postby AWinters » Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:20 pm

Making some great headway, thank you!


(Ep 10 - 10:35)
In episode 10 when she runs after seeing Kaji, do you think it's English or German or a cocktail of both?
I can't make out any of it.
To me it sounds like "oh baby I don't hover", which she obviously didn't say.

(Ep 09 - 21:46)
The line at the very end of episode 9 appears to have another 2 syllable word. Did anyone catch what it was? Sounds like "dogen".
"perverser Wicht .......!"

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Postby robersora » Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:18 pm

Ep 09 21:46
It might be "Trottel" which basically means "Baka" - "idiot"
But I'm really not sure.
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Postby AWinters » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:11 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Ep 09 21:46
It might be "Trottel" which basically means "Baka" - "idiot"
But I'm really not sure.


Thank you, it sounds like it could be.

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Postby AWinters » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:20 pm

I haven't got this far yet, but I've found a video of the scene where Asuka takes a phone call in German.
Would anyone like to take a crack at it, please?

https://youtu.be/8H-ps4NEpYA

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:08 pm

View Original PostAWinters wrote:I haven't got this far yet, but I've found a video of the scene where Asuka takes a phone call in German.
Would anyone like to take a crack at it, please?

https://youtu.be/8H-ps4NEpYA

If necessary, give Tiffany Grant an email. She wrote her all the German dialogue throughout the series. I'm sure she'd be happy to help.

Her email is Asukatoo (AT) aol (DOT) com

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Postby IgRAzm » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:20 pm

I think people already cracked it at Evageeks.

https://forum.evageeks.org/thread/3072/What-the-heck-is-Asuka-saying-in-German-in-episode-22/40/#p900224 Yeah, this is the post.

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Postby AWinters » Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:39 pm

Perfect, thank you!

I'll copy and paste from that thread when I get to it.

Thank you for details to contact Tiffany Grant. I'll admire that I'm a bit apprehensive because I don't know if I'm infringing copyright in some way and her husband is the founder of ADV, haha.
(Also, the voice of Hyuga, apparently).

I'm about halfway through episode 17 now (each one takes typically 4-5 hours :cringe: ).

Here's a list of where I'm stuck so far. As usual, I'd be most grateful for some help.


Ep 10
10:35
Asuka:
Running away in her inflated suit because Kaji saw her. Could be English, German or both.


Ep 11
16:06
Asuka:
Shouting something in German while kicking Shinji as they crawl through the air ducts.



Ep 17
04:15
Hyuga(?) over the tannoy:

What I hear: "N..n... no, don't bother! The data from the recon set's still being confirmed by the MAGI."
What the template says: "The data from the recon plane will be confirmed by the MAGI"

The question he was responding to: "The first branch is still okay?!"

There's a major disconnect between the question and the answer. I can't be hearing that right.

2:28
Ritsuko:
"In the end it's nothing but a (pale duplication?)"

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Postby robersora » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:30 pm

View Original PostAWinters wrote:
Ep 10
10:35
Asuka:
Running away in her inflated suit because Kaji saw her. Could be English, German or both.


To me it's gibberish, sorry!


Ep 11
16:06
Asuka:
Shouting something in German while kicking Shinji as they crawl through the air ducts.


I now had a chance listening to it, and I have no chance of deciphering it. There's just too much noise on top of the German pronunciation.
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Postby Derantor » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:25 pm

Yepp, her Ep 10 whinings seems to be mostly gibberish. Maybe "Ich sehe .... [furchtbar aus]" -> "I'm looking terrible!" or something like that, but that's just a wild guess.

Episode 11: "You looked! Perverser Idiot! (perverse idiot!) I told you not to look! Are you stupid [unintelligble stuff]"

Ep 17: Sounds like he's gotten confirmation, then/or the person on the other end of the call began to explain stuff he didn't want to hear, and he tells them not to bother. I don't think you got it wrong.

I couldn't find the Ritsuko scene you were talking about - 2:28 of Episode 17 is Misato talking.

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Postby Berserker » Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:01 pm

Ep 17
That's actually in 6:30 when RItsuko speaks regarding the dummy plug, " In the end this is nothing but a pale duplication that emulates the real pilot's thinking process. It's still only a machine."

4:15
You've got it right except i might be hearing recog set's instead of recon. Can anyone confirm which one's correct?
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Postby AWinters » Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:48 am

Great, thanks!
I think I hit the wrong number on the keyboard when I was making notes about Ritsuko's line, sorry about that.

"Recon" is what was in the template, but you could be right.
I'll look up definitions and see if both options make sense.
I think the word "recon" was also used in the control room in a previous episode if I remember rightly.
The template is of subs I downloaded from a torrent, which was labelled something like "ADV translation subs". I've no idea how accurate they are.

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Postby Berserker » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:55 am

Ok so, i recorded the whining part of ep 10 and the air duct part of ep 11, isolated the vocals, eliminated background music and noise as much as i can, decreased playback speed and amplified the vocal. It's quite clear now.

Ep 10: https://mega.nz/file/r6pHiKhB#UG6DGniY_ ... KfwPWXnHv4

Ep 11: https://mega.nz/file/3qZAhL7L#5X1kjfLqh ... j9_qfGnXUM

Now you guys decide what to make of these. Ep 11 sounds "you looked, pathesa eagle" to me, while i don't wanna comment on ep 10. Uploaded these on Mega instead drive because my drive's almost full while mega storage is just sitting there, empty.

Warning: After all those elimination and isolation, i had to amplify the audio quite high to make the vocal thoroughly understandable. Play it on low volume for the first time with caution, then adjust it as per wish. Or else, immense earrape. Asuka's high pitch squeling makes it worse.
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Postby robersora » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:55 pm

^
damn, that's quite some dedication!

Episode 10
still no clue, sorry!

Episode 11
"You looked, perverser Idiot!!" (perverse idiot)
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Postby AWinters » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:14 pm

That really is dedication, well done!

Asuka's running away dialogue in ep10:

I would have thought she'd said "save me, I don't wanna", except the last word sounds more like "lava" "have a" or "over".

I think that's Ep11 completed.
I definitely hear "perverser idiot" too!

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Postby AWinters » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:52 pm

I think I've got it!!
"He's seeing me out of the lava!"

Thank you for slowing it down and cleaning it up, that was a big help :D

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Postby AWinters » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:55 pm

Got a bit more!
There may be a few early episodes coming up again because I'm going back over them from the start as well, making sure I haven't missed anything.

Ep 02
09:33
Ritsuko on other end of the phone: "I can't believe you're being so ..., Misato!"


Ep 18
04:28
German dialogue
Sounds like "auf a dast idiot"


Ep 19
04:27
Rei:
You're running away from the truth because it's....?

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Postby Berserker » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:54 am

Oh man, the ep 2 one gave me a headache because of the overlap of Misato's dialogue over Ritsuko's and i constantly heard it to make something of it, but in vain. I'll try later when i get some free time in this tight schedule of mine.

Ep 18
Yeah, it's something like auf a da(s)t idiot. I leave it to someone else.

Ep 19
You're running away from the truth because it's ugly.

Edit: You can't isolate a single vocal from two overlapping ones. So all i could do was amplify Ritsuko's one to make it almost equal to Misato's by ratio and reduce playback speed. I'm pretty sure she says, "I can't believe you can think and say this/it Misa-". Yeah, i know that's one weird sentence, but that's what i'm hearing. The voice cuts as the scene immediately changes to Misato driving her car. One might think she says "you can think and say to me" as it almost sounds like that. But there's a clear pronunciation of "sa" after "Mi". The only confusion remains on the "this" or "it" word. Here's my edited version if needed: https://mega.nz/file/r7wkQJBR#Jzn224hgc ... OS_c14G254
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Postby AWinters » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:51 am

Thank you!
Yeah I listened to Ritsuko's line over and over and just couldn't get the end of it.
Thank you for the sound clip. I've had a listen a couple of times and I'll have to try it again with my headphones.

I have a couple more that I'm a bit stuck on (within a minute of each other).

Ep 19

12:38
Asuka
(Shouts something in German after Unit 02 has her arms chopped off).
Template says: "you damn son of a bitch".
Almost sounds like her usual "my got im himmel", but with "himmel" swapped out for something different.

13:14
Asuka
Sounds like she said "the cunt!"
I'm thinking it's more likely something German though.

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Postby Berserker » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:17 pm

12:28 To me it sounds like "ta du scheißer", in which du scheißer somehow translates into "you shit". I can't help about the "ta" part though. I do hear it, but it can be anything else. Not sure about this.

13:14 "Verdammt" which translates to damn. Even the subtitle (at least for me) says so.
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