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Postby AWinters » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:00 pm

View Original PostBerserker wrote:12:28 To me it sounds like "ta du scheißer", in which du scheißer somehow translates into "you shit". I can't help about the "ta" part though. I do hear it, but it can be anything else. Not sure about this.


I think I hear that too now that you've written it. I have no idea about German sentence structure, but it sounds like there's another word in the middle. Could this work out as "you ..... shit"?
I can have a search for popular German insults with the word "shit" in them and see if I get a match.

Your other translation sounds spot on, thank you!

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Postby AWinters » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:40 pm

After playing with google translate, I might have something.
Could it be "Verdammte Scheiße"?
Google translate can't decide whether this means "god damn shit" or "holy shit".

I'm listening to Ritsuko's phone call bit again and yeah, now I hear what you hear, but as "I can't believe you'd think of saying these sort..." (cut scene).

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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:40 pm

View Original PostAWinters wrote:After playing with google translate, I might have something.
Could it be "Verdammte Scheiße"?


That'd be "damn shit" in English.

"verdammt"= damn, damned
"Gottverdammt"=goddamned

"Holy" would be "heilig(e)" in German unless I'm seriously mistaken.
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Postby AWinters » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:55 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:That'd be "damn shit" in English.

"verdammt"= damn, damned
"Gottverdammt"=goddamned

"Holy" would be "heilig(e)" in German unless I'm seriously mistaken.


There's a high chance that Google translate is seriously mistaken. It often is.

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Postby robersora » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:08 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:That'd be "damn shit" in English.

"verdammt"= damn, damned
"Gottverdammt"=goddamned

"Holy" would be "heilig(e)" in German unless I'm seriously mistaken.


That's all correct.
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Postby Blockio » Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:12 pm

"Verdammte Scheiße" definitely is a German expletive, quite a commonly used one at that. As Ursus said, it just means "damn shit", although I'd more loosely translate it into something like "god fucking damnit", it's definitely more the kind of thing you'd angry yell when something seriously doesn't go your way
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Postby AWinters » Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:07 pm

Thank you!

I have some sound clip links, hopefully I'll be able to do these every time to make it easier.

https://mega.nz/file/c4pgRIyS#CwVBoo-6Zgod3SeDBakDtCCOODJUWxq0HgG25jCkB5I


https://mega.nz/file/gtgzWaLb#Cz7fs8pXTifT-h5LjADGZGzlyrFDtJvk0KsdY8Pv53c

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Postby Berserker » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:21 am

View Original PostAWinters wrote:I'm listening to Ritsuko's phone call bit again and yeah, now I hear what you hear, but as "I can't believe you'd think of saying these sort..." (cut scene).

Well, this one's better compared to what i thought i heard. Though i believe, i still hear a "can" before think and "Misa-" at the end.
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Postby AWinters » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:27 am

"I can't believe you can think of saying that, Misa..." sounds possible. I just can't hear a syllable for "that" and is sounds more like "Mi-so" than "Mi-sa", so, now I'm not certain that she's saying "Misato" - unless she nicknames her "Miso" like how Ritsuko and Kaji have nicknames for each other: Ritsu and Reyo.

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Postby Berserker » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:03 am

I surely hear a pronunciation of "t". That's why i speculated it's either "this" or "it". It's not possible to say "that" in such fraction of time, neither there's enough syllables for it for what i hear.

The "Misa-" thing is probably caused to resemble hanging up call IRL, as Misato already put away the telephone from her ear before Ritsuko even started on the said sentence that we're trying to make something of, most certainly the next thing she'd do, being impatient, is hang up on her, to hurry up and take Shinji home and make some moves on him. :devil:
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Postby Blockio » Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:02 am

Listened to both of them; first is "oh verdammt idiot"/maybe "gott verdammt idiot", both loosely translating to "fucking idiot"; the second is "verdammter Schweinehund", something that probably most closely maps to "you goddamn bastard" in English
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Postby UrsusArctos » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:10 am

OOC, is "Schweinehund" still used these days as a cuss word? Calling someone a literal "Pig-Dog" makes them sound like they're soldiers out of an old war comic, or stereotypical commies cursing capitalists (MM's signature had something like "I'm trying to convert you to communism, you imperial capitalist pigdog!")
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Postby robersora » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:34 pm

^
Your assessment seems about right. It's something that would be tossed ironically, if anything.
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Postby Blockio » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:57 pm

It is kinda outdated, yeah; occasionally it still gets thrown into the mix for some of the comically long insult chains for when you're super pissed, something like "Arschgesichtiger Unhold in Menschengestalt"/"Ass-faced fiend in shape of a man"
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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:21 am

View Original PostBlockio wrote:"Arschgesichtiger Unhold in Menschengestalt"/"Ass-faced fiend in shape of a man"


:lol: :rofl: :hitthetable:

(Dear me, I shouldn't be laughing so much, it goes so badly with my sad Gendo avatar!)
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Postby AWinters » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:40 pm

I'm up to episode 20..
Double checking and correcting dialogue, changing my mind about font colours, altering the timing, etc is taking a lot of time. Initial editing of a single episode alone takes hours.

With each initial edit, would some of you like to volunteer to each watch an episode and make notes of any mistakes I've made, please?

If it's not strictly against forum rules, might I be able to post cloud links?

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Postby Berserker » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:05 am

I'd love to help out, but it might take some time because of my current schedule.
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Postby AWinters » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:48 pm

View Original PostBerserker wrote:I'd love to help out, but it might take some time because of my current schedule.


That would be a great help, thank you.

I'm half way theough editing episode 20, so if you pick a number from 1-19 I can send you one to look at.

Any feedback would be helpful. Mistakes are the main thing to watch out for (like if I've missed a word) and noticable timing errors (my computer has had some laggy days that might have affected this).

If you have any thoughts about the font colours, don't hold back.

I've done them all with British spellings, but will go back and do an American edit when I've finished them all. This will be quick to do because all I'll be doing is changing the country in spelling checker.
Only a handful of our words are spelled differently.

As the captions are aimed at people with Auditory Processing Disorder, you'll see that some words and phrases that are relevant to the plot are pale yellow. It's a complicated disorder and prompts to notice phrases can make all the difference to us understanding the plot. We overlook things otherwise.

If there's anything you think should or shouldn't be highlighted, please let me know.

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Postby dzzthink » Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:28 pm

Let me know if there's anything to be done. I'd like something to do with the old NGE before Shin eva drops and everything will be about spoilers.

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Postby AWinters » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:15 pm

View Original Postdzzthink wrote:Let me know if there's anything to be done. I'd like something to do with the old NGE before Shin eva drops and everything will be about spoilers.


That would be appreciated, thank you!

So far, episodes 6 & 16 are taken.
I'll inbox you.


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