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Postby AWinters » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:43 pm

I'm currently editing some subtitles for the ADV dub so that there's a version that's in sync with the spoken dialogue.

The reason I'm doing it is because synced subtitles are an essential tool for viewers with auditory processing disorder.

I could really use some help from someone who knows the ADV version well.
I'd appreciate any help and hope you don't mind me coming back to this thread whenever I get stuck.

I'm currently stuck on episode 3:

About 13 minutes in: Misato responds to the army's order to dispatch an Eva "They're more obnoxious than the...." (I can't make out that word).

8 minutes in: The teacher talking to the class: "Several thousand species of ..... and ..... and half the world's population were lost.
(I can't make out either of those words).

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Postby Gus Hanson » Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:12 pm

I tried to hear the ep. 3 line and all I keep making out is "They're more obnoxious than the aliens, I'd have mobilized even if they hadn't asked." Sorry if it's wrong, but it's the best I could do.
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Postby pwhodges » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:22 am

I'm pretty sure Misato says "aliens". The teacher says "flora and fauna".
"Being human, having your health; that's what's important." (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
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Postby AWinters » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:59 am

Thank you both :D

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Postby AWinters » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:18 pm

Hey guys, I'm stuck again!

Episode 5
21:30
It sounds like "The energy source is accelerating and massing upon itself", but "source" definitely sounds like it begins with "t".. so it could be a different word and I can't work it out.

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Postby pwhodges » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:15 pm

"The energy torus is..." The word "torus" is actually on the screen at that moment. It is a fine example of meaningless gobbledegook, though.

I'll have to try a bit more with the word you have as "massing"; possibly "mounting", but very unclear. Looking at various sub translations, the word "converging" is common which could kinda have a similar meaning to "mounting on itself", but I found several translations that actually have "massing", so perhaps that's what the dub says.
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Postby AWinters » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:43 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:"The energy torus is..." The word "torus" is actually on the screen at that moment. It is a fine example of meaningless gobbledegook, though.

I'll have to try a bit more with the word you have as "massing"; possibly "mounting", but very unclear. Looking at various sub translations, the word "converging" is common which could kinda have a similar meaning to "mounting on itself", but I found several translations that actually have "massing", so perhaps that's what the dub says.



Thank you! I didn't notice that on the screen, I'll have a look as I edit.

I'm using existing subtitles as a template because about half of it is the same. The subs I'm working with had it phrased differently, but they used the word "massing" in that sentence, so I was copying off that. Thanks for catching the error!

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Postby AWinters » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:45 pm

I've gone back to episode 1 and now I'm unsure on something else:

Ep 01
18:05 - Misato:
"Was it ...... to protect something?"
It sounds like "willing" or "really". Could be something else entirely.

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Postby pwhodges » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:14 pm

"moving".
"Being human, having your health; that's what's important." (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
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Postby AWinters » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:49 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:"moving".


Ah, of course! Thank you.

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Postby AWinters » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:18 pm

Ep 06
03:38
Misato.

"Next won't"?

The subs I'm using as a template say "next", but there's definitely 2 syllables.

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Postby pwhodges » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:40 am

"Next one", I think.
"Being human, having your health; that's what's important." (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
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Postby AWinters » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:09 am

Thanks!

Ep 04
14:26

What does Misato shout at Shinji?
I've assumed; "Cut that line of crap!" I'm unsure of "cut" and "line" though.

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Postby Zusuchan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:14 am

I think probably ''cut that out'' is what you're looking for, though Netflix has ''knock it off''.

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Postby AWinters » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:52 am

View Original PostZusuchan wrote:I think probably ''cut that out'' is what you're looking for, though Netflix has ''knock it off''.


Thanks. It's the ADV dub I'm working on and it definitely has "crap" at the end of the sentence. I'm mostly struggling with the first word. I think I've heard "cut that out" in a version of it though (possibly the rebuild), which is probably why I assumed it was "cut".

I tried the Netflix version before I knew it was redubbed, but didn't make it past the first episode when I realised it wasn't the version I used to watch.

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Postby pwhodges » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:20 am

"Stow that line of crap!"
"Being human, having your health; that's what's important." (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
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Postby Zusuchan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:37 am

AWinters:
I'm a sub man myself, so subtitles are what I look at. I've become afraid of foreign animation dubs, to be frank, because the majority of the time some people seem to feel a strange need to change the original text rather much.

On the other hand, it seems like the Netflix dub/sub is more akin to the original Japanese, for better or worse, so if you want a more accurate translation, I'd advise you to look there. Anyway, glad to be of help.

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Postby AWinters » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:54 am

Thanks :D


I've got a couple of them on Ep 07:

02:48
Shinji:
"You're going to be an old m......, Misato"
(Apparently, he was insinuating that she's lazy).


04:37
Prior, Toji says: "it's amazing that someone so beautiful could be NERV's operations director".
Shinji replies: "oh ......"
Almost sounds like he's saying "oh bollocks", but I'm doubtful of that.

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Postby Zusuchan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:30 pm

The first is probably ''maid'', as Shinji is insinuating that Misato's laziness is the reason she still doesn't have a boyfriend (the Japanese usually get married before Birthday Nr. 30 arrives). The Netflix sub has something like ''I think I know why you're still single at your age''.

For the second one , I don't know. Maybe ''oh, really?'' is appropriate to the ADV dub (Shinji saying ''oh bollocks'' sounds really out of character). Netflix has ''you think so?'', which in my opinion sounds better than the other options.

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Postby AWinters » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:45 pm

Thanks.
I thought I heard "maid" too, but I was unsure because I associate maids with the opposite of lazy.



Another one:

Ep 07

11:15
Misato ranting while kicking a locker:
"Those jerks are just pissed off about being cut out of the ...... loop!"

The template subs say "profit loop", but she definitely doesn't say profit in ADV audio, but I guess it would have a similar meaning. Kind of sounds like "insurance", but I can't make sense of that.


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