A New Challenger Has Appeared! (3+1's New Eva(s))

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A New Challenger Has Appeared! (3+1's New Eva(s))

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Postby Reichu » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:18 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:Another year, another Anno :D

Evangelion Mark.10(!!!)



That's pretty weird-looking. I feel like my speculah about Mk.10 through Mk.12 being a mini-boss squadron of Adams' Vessels might end up being right... (Mk.9 was the "1st Adams' Vessel", presumably making Mk.10 the "2nd Adams' Vessel", and so on. Basic idea is mentioned here. ) If so, I hope this thing isn't stuck with a Roman number "10"/X for a face and grows something wicked awesome like Mk.9 did.
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Postby Velorex » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:50 pm

welp its a mark 10 with a X-ten for a face...
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Postby girlifyoudidnt » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:01 pm

Official clean scan (with a watermark though)

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:09 pm

Hot!

I wonder who the pilot could be?
A captured Rei Q?
A new Rei clone?

Or will it be full automated?

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:22 pm

Oh yeah, a fan on Twitter pointed this out. (Kamen Rider or Ultraman, I forget?)
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Postby Reichu » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:23 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:I wonder who the pilot could be?
A captured Rei Q?
A new Rei clone?

I'm guessing Rei Q will be used for Eva 13. (The shot in the trailer of her with Fuyutsuki suggests some pretty serious shit to come.) If I'm correct about Mk.10 through Mk.12 showing up as the remaining three Adams' Vessels, then one might expect this shot to finally pay off in terms of "who pilots them?"

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The oldest Rei here was succeeded by Rei Q (her uniform is among the things stacked outside Rei Q's "stall"), who piloted the 1st Adams' Vessel. So the remaining Reis might as well show up to pilot the 2nd through 4th Adams' Vessels. With any luck, they'll all die horribly to showcase the possible fates that could have befallen our new main Rei. :heehee:

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Postby Velorex » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:24 pm

tbh it reminds me of AnimA
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Postby Tajai » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:34 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Hot!

I wonder who the pilot could be?
A captured Rei Q?
A new Rei clone?

Or will it be full automated?

I'm betting either Rei Q or a new Ayanami Type pilots it.
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Postby Velorex » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:43 pm

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also it looks like it has an angel's face, a Seele logo on the forhead, and the X/roman numeral
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Postby Reichu » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:53 pm

Good call on the Angel face. The Seele logo also forms a third eye. Angel face + third eye calls back to Eva-01 from Near Third Impact, suggesting that maybe Mark.10 is the Vessel for Eva-01's original core.
(I had guessed this previously, on the basis that "10" is "01" inverted, so if Anno was going to play with numbers that seemed like an obvious way to go.) I guess in a way the "X" also plays in N3I Eva-01, since she opens a big X-shaped rift in the ground.
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I also noticed the Seele's logo but my brain set it aside for "background processing" because the eyes are distributed wrong (4 on left and 3 on right, inside of the reverse) and that's kind of weird. I guess it must be intentional and it's probably some kind of clue. The original Seele are gone, so the mirroring of the logo suggests that somebody has picked up where they left off, in some sense... Started a Neo-Seele, if you will... (I really need to update this thread, but more and more it's looking to me like Fuyutsuki's foreshadowed "Gargoyle-ization" will involve him resurrecting the pre-Lilin civilization in some way -- or at least trying to. How messed up would it be if it turned out that Fuyutsuki has actually been wearing a mask this whole time, and we see his real, non-Lilin face sometime in Shin? :uhh: )
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:17 pm

So what color are we thinking for Mark 10, eh?

Since Unit 00 never got a repaint the Rebuilds have not yet gone with a Blue Eva. Or maybe a full neon green if it acts as commander to the greenish MP Evas.
I'd also be up for tie-dye but I don't think they're gonna go with that.

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Postby Reichu » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:36 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Since Unit 00 never got a repaint the Rebuilds have not yet gone with a Blue Eva.

Mark.06 is both of the original Eva-00 colors: orange and blue.

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So what color are we thinking for Mark 10, eh?


I guess since Mk.9 was an Eva-00 rip-off, and Mk.10 maybe has something to do with Eva-01, we could maybe expect the colors to go:

Mk.9: Eva-00
Mk.10: Eva-01
Mk.11: Eva-02
Mk.12: Eva-03 skip ahead to Eva-08 since it's actually a multi-film, "team player" Eva

If 10 to 12 show up as a mini boss squad, being colored like 01, 02, and 08 would make them an "evil version" of the three current Wille Evas. With the first scene in Shin being a giant callback to the 6th Angel battle, framed as a "test" (from Fuyutsuki) for Wille, it doesn't seem out of the question for other such "tests" to appear. Here, we might get a sort of ironic echo of the 8th Angel fight. Three Evas cooperating to take down a giant flying monster that has a smaller humanoid living in its "belly", and all...
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:57 pm

Shit.... I completely forgot about Mark 6! Ok, time for bed! I’m definitely sleep deprived

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Postby Zoop » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:13 am

Cool, Evangelion X :D

I'm wondering if this means we'll get a flashback featuring it, or if it will be more like Eva 04 (only talked about, but designed to sell models).

Edit: Wrong place for this, replies in thread/20220/the-questions-that-MUST-be-answered/ or post/896241/Lamp-Festival-with-Anno-drawings/#896241
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Postby Reichu » Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:34 am

View Original PostZoop wrote:I'm wondering if this means we'll get a flashback featuring it, or if it will be more like Eva 04 (only talked about, but designed to sell models).

I would assume neither: it's just going to be a regular part of the movie like every other Eva lantern drawing ever. Check out my recent posts in this thread for speculah.

And on that note, a little more: If anyone remembers the speculah from my Adams thread about the ability of "Vessels" to usurp control of the Adams they sourced from... Mark.10 could mean some pretty bad things for Wunder, if it can act as the "true core" of Eva-01 remotely. Eva-01 having two cores, and one of the originals (Lilith's) being present in the Eva currently, might mitigate this somewhat; but on the other hand, there are pretty good chances that Mk.10 will have a couple of buddies helping it. This is going to be a hell of a fight.

Another guess: that X on the head is going to turn out to be full of eyes.
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Postby Zoop » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:07 am

Hmm good point, up till now I assumed MK10 would have been a past Eva, since it went from 09 to 13 (meaning, a missing 10, 11 and 12), and thus something from during the timeskip.
I don't think they'll linger too much on what happened before, hence why i thought it would be treated like eva04.
But those three perhaps being involved in the final fight would make a lot more sense, especially if you are right about them being similar to 09, being vessels.

I don't really buy that its supposed to be a mirror to 01 tho (not yet anyway, maybe have to let this sink), as 13 already did that. But then again, 09 turned out really differently (colors, and its head looking more like Wunder), and 13 also went through a big change ... so who knows. Starting out looking like a Power Ranger, but when it "awakens" starts to look like a dark version of 01 ... hmmm ...

In any case, it would be totally awesome if 01 made its comeback by ripping itself out of Wunder :D

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:54 am

Anno getting his Kamen Rider on for Shin Eva is the dorkiest thing he's done professionally since live-action Cutie Honey and I love it! I can't wait for Mark.10 to terrify my very soul despite all that.

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Postby Reichu » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:16 am

@Zoop: One "mirror" does not discount the existence of another. It was bluntly apparent that Mark.06 was a shadowy counterpart to Eva-01 as soon as it appeared, but this didn't prevent Eva-13 from existing, did it? :tongue: Eva has always been a giant house of mirrors. They're everywhere.

Mk.10 is specifically referencing Eva-01's appearance as a Radiant Giant, which has never been done before, and makes sense if it's Eva-01's Vessel and is made of its original (non-Lilith) core.

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Postby Velorex » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:25 pm

I bet the X is actually wires wrapped around the mask in a similar way seen with the mk.44
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Postby SEELE-01 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:33 pm

Ok... Assuming we'll get to see Marks 10-12 the question of what happened to Eva 07 remains... Was it a Mark unit? A Production Model like Eva 08?
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