Why didn't Misato (or anyone) tell Shinji anything in 3.0?

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Postby pwhodges » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:41 am

View Original Postohno2100 wrote:Honestly, my biggest question about 3.0 (and by extension 3.0+1.0) is how different would they have been if Shinji had came out of Unit 01 early. Like, much earlier. Not like a month or few like in NGE but like, let's say 1-2 years later, maybe 3 or 4.

If Shinji had come out earlier, he would have died of suffocation in space.
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Postby Archer » Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:45 am

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:
View Original Postohno2100#918268 wrote:Honestly, my biggest question about 3.0 (and by extension 3.0+1.0) is how different would they have been if Shinji had came out of Unit 01 early. Like, much earlier. Not like a month or few like in NGE but like, let's say 1-2 years later, maybe 3 or 4.

If Shinji had come out earlier, he would have died of suffocation in space.

Maybe he already did, and that’s why he’s tagged #3 when Wille recovers him :huh:

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Postby ElMariachi » Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:48 pm

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:
View Original Postohno2100#918268 wrote:Honestly, my biggest question about 3.0 (and by extension 3.0+1.0) is how different would they have been if Shinji had came out of Unit 01 early. Like, much earlier. Not like a month or few like in NGE but like, let's say 1-2 years later, maybe 3 or 4.

If Shinji had come out earlier, he would have died of suffocation in space.

I think it's evident that the basis of these what ifs are that Shinji came out of 01 before it was sent in space! :D (or that it wasn't sent in space at all)
After all, we don't know how much time passed between N3I and 01's space adventures.
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Postby pwhodges » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:00 pm

If Shinji had come out before, there would probably have been no need to send Unit 01 into space (as he's the trigger to awaken it and hence cause an impact). And we are told that Shinji was in space, because Kaworu says "welcome back" as he is being returned to Earth.
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Postby ElMariachi » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:53 am

View Original Postpwhodges wrote:If Shinji had come out before, there would probably have been no need to send Unit 01 into space (as he's the trigger to awaken it and hence cause an impact). And we are told that Shinji was in space, because Kaworu says "welcome back" as he is being returned to Earth.

I'm not sure of that, since we know so little about what an Impact Trigger is and can do and what can't be done without them. After all, Gendo's intended to use a Dummy Plug to fight Zeruel and eat its core to awake (it didn't worked only because Yui interjected), and Mark was also equipped with a Dummy Plug when it fused with Lilith and the 12th Angel and did whatever the hell it did that resulted in 3I, so it seems that an Impact Trigger pilot is not indispensable to start an Impact.
Maybe Dummy Plugs are Impact Triggers and that a regular pilot (aka Asuka and Mari) controlling an Eva can't start an Impact with it, and there are pilots that also have the power of Impact Triggers (Kaworu, Shinji, maybe Rei too, which brings us back to the question of why Shinji have it); or maybe "Impact Trigger" and "can pilot an Evangelion" come together and are synonyms, that Asuka and Mari too have a DSS Choker (or WILLE trust them enough to not fit them with one) and it's just that WILLE didn't had time to explain that little detail before Mark.09 made its Kool Aid impression! :tongue:

It's also possible that even without Shinji inside EVA-01, it can still trigger impacts on its own, since it still has Yui (and now Rei) inside it, and that even if they somehow managed to bring Shinji back earlier, they still would had to send EVA-01 in space. (which is implied by the fact it constantly generate energy and emits a shitton of L-Barrier radiation even after Shinji was extracted)
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