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Postby Shun » Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:10 am

My analysis of AVANT 1, published in italian in December 27, 2019: click.

Important points:
- Kiyoko Suizenji's song invites us to live our life sincerely.
- The cryptoanalysis operation and the knowledge left by someone (Je vous laisse) are metaphors to show that everything we do in the present depends on the past, it's thanks to everything we have learned in the past that we can do things now. Anno shows us the causality of the world, of human life, of knowledge and relationships.
- The battle shows us the courage to not give up and the attempt to go on, to find a way, despite all the difficulties.
- The Paris restoration shows references to other works loved by Anno, and opens interesting perspectives for Wille's and Nerv's plans, above all it allows us to think about the possible metatextual Rebuild's message.

Time, causality, knowledge, relationships.
Am I willing to lose everything to try again?

I also add this article, always in italian, published in July 02, 2019: click
The foundamental point, for me, aren't Blake's mythology and all reference (yep, are important to build the show, and I read, few months ago, the very detailed and interesting Reichu's theory) but is the metatextual Rebuild's question. So, I tried to answer about this focal point whit this two articles.

If someone want to leave an opinion, I would be glad. My English isn't good, so I will try to make short answers.

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Postby Shinji Ikari Expy » Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:04 pm

I put this through Google Translate and it was a great read. Thanks for sharing.

I like the idea that Gendo & Yui's plan in NTE may be to prevent Second Impact by tearing open the fabric of space-time (at least I think that's what you're getting at; I don't pretend to understand the mechanics of it). I'm not sure it's correct, but it would explain a lot.

More importantly, it would set up an interesting dilemma for Shinji in the final movie: carry out his parents' plan to erase everything that has happened to this point or live with his mistakes and move forward. A much more difficult decision than the one he made in End of Evangelion!

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Postby Shun » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:03 pm

Thank you for the comment! :-)

Yep, you got it right, my hypothesis is that Yui, Gendo and Fuyutsuki want to prevent Second Impact, or maybe restore or create a perfect world. But what is the price to pay? If there is a universe (one timeline) probably a travel in the past erase the future, and the time traveler lose knowledge and relationships. If there is a multiverse (multiple timelines) the multi-time traveler lose relationships and maybe his knowledge, but the starting timeline survive.

I don't know if this is the Anno's idea, but it seems to me a good way to link some things, and above all seems to me a good dilemma.

If I went back to the past, for example when I was a child and went to elementary school, to avoid anti-causal paradoxes my "adult memory" should be erased, so I would lose the knowledge that I have accumulated during my life. It would be easy to do schoolwork if "adult knowledge" were maintained, but if this "adult knowledge" is cleared I should go back to school with my "child knowledge".
Is it better to go back to the past to prevent mistakes but losing knowledge and relationships, or is it better to live in the present with errors by having knowledge and relationships?

I thought about these things for some reasons:
* Hideaki Anno said that Eva is a story that repeats.
* Akira Ishida said that Kaworu has accumulated several cycles of his past.
* Fuyutsuki and Kaworu speak respectively about reversibility of world, time and human heart, and about a project used by humans to change the world.
* In Yamato and Nausicaa, works much loved by Anno, the world is devastated by a disaster but there is a way to restore it.
* In NTE there are many references to other Anno's works, such as Karekano and Nadia, so maybe in Shin Evangelion there might be some reference to GunBuster. For example, the Eva curse is a reference to Noriko, and maybe the Guf (or rather, the sphere inside the Guf) could be a metaphysical sci-fi place that allows you to change time and reality. In GunBuster and DieBuster there are black holes, so Anno could be inspired by black holes, wormholes and closed timelike curves for the sphere in the Guf. Sakyo Komatsu's novel that gives the title to the final episode of GunBuster speaks about time travel.
* Anno's depression. Maybe in a psychological crisis a guy can thought that if he had the opportunity to go back in the past and try again, he could avoid past mistakes. But there are always pros and cons.

Honestly, I would like if Anno spoke about this topic, for me it's interesting and I don't know works that speak seriously about it. Usually in the movies/books with travels in the past (e.g. The girl who leapt through time) or time loops (e.g. Groundhog Day) the protagonist don't lose something, don't destroy something, but remembers the events and changes them accordingly.
In Evangelion 2.0 Shinji says: "I don't care what happens to me. I don't care what happens to the world." and in Evangelion 3.0 he see the result of his choice: almost destroyed world, almost ruined relationships. This time, in Shin Evangelion, Shinji will have to choice again what to do, thinking well about the pros and cons.

I'm really curious and interested about Anno final message!

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Postby Giji Shinka » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:36 am

View Original PostShun wrote:My hypothesis is that Yui, Gendo and Fuyutsuki want to prevent Second Impact, or maybe restore or create a perfect world.

I like it, it would make a nice parallel between Gendo and what Shinji tried to do in 3.0.
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Postby Reichu » Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:43 pm

Evangelion 3.0 Dansubs wrote:FUYUTSUKI:
Breaking apart the world is a trivial matter.
Rebuilding it, however, is not so easy.
As with time itself, the course of the world cannot be reversed.


Alternate:

Evangelion 3.0 GitHub Fansub wrote:Destroying the world is a simple matter.
But rebuilding it, that isn't so easy.
The world can be reversed no more than time.

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Postby Shun » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:16 am

Yep, I know, the original should be like this:
「世界を崩すの事は造作もない。
だが、作り直すとなるとそうもいかん。
時と同じく、世界に可逆性はないからな。人の心にも。
だから今、碇は自分の願いを叶えるためにあらゆる犠牲を払っている。自分の魂もだ。」

Even in italian, as in english, it's ok.
In the original Fuyutsuki says that like the time, the world and heart are not reversible. But he also says that Gendo want sacrificing everything to satisfy his desire, including his soul.
My hypothesis is that physical laws are normally inviolable (not reversible world), but maybe there is a way to manipulate them, and that is what I think Gendo wants to do using Adams, the spears and the object in the Guf. So, Gendo wants to sacrifice everything to do what normally cannot be done, he wants power to reverse time and restore the world. In my opinion prevent Second Impact is a interesting idea, Shinji should choosing between these options: save the world in the past or rebuild the world in the present.
But I'm not sure. As I said there is also another possibility, maybe Gendo wants to restore or create a perfect world of harmony and order. However, the state of eternal bliss seems to me closer to Seele's desire (Infinity?) than Yui, Gendo and Fuyutsuki's goal. Furthermore, we have already seen something similar in The End of Evangelion: ​​LCL sea. Does Anno want to talk about the same thing again? I hope the dilemma and the message are different this time. So, whatever is the world of harmony and order, I think it must be different from the LCL sea, both as a representation and as a metatextual metaphor.

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Postby Reichu » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:30 am

I have the Japanese handy, but most users can't read it so I don't post it unless there's a need.

Fuyutsuki says quite flatly that you can't reverse time -- there's no going backward. One has to rebuild instead, and this is difficult. This difficulty is why Gendo has to make the sacrifices he does. Shinji thought he would be able to engage in some kind of "undo" regimen, but Gendo had other plans -- things were intentionally rigged so that the magic fix Kaworu talked about never had a chance of being implemented. In other words, Gendo had no interest in it. When combined with what Fuyutsuki said (and said specifically in an attempt to tell Shinji about Gendo), it does NOT paint a picture of Gendo as some Peggy Sue fix-fic crusader.

The message is pretty clearly "don't look back -- look forward". Fixing things with time travel is for fanfics that can't accept what's happened in the "real timeline". "Going backwards" instead of making things better going forward is also a mentality that's destroying our world right now. It needs to be criticised, not endorsed by catering to a sci-fi trope that is extremely played out at this point. "Grow up", Gendo tells his son, shortly before Shinji becomes a metaphorical hikikomori for fourteen years.

Another problem is assuming that time-traveling to before Second Impact fixes any of the things that actually matter. This isn't NGE. We have barely any idea of what happened at 2I and why; and First Impact is a complete and utter mystery. "Original Sin" and "purification" are motifs in the film on a level beyond esoteric symbolism -- the universe's metaphysics are tied up in them. I have a thread coming up on all this stuff so I won't show too much of my hand here.

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Postby Zoop » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:20 am

I do think there are some time travel shenanigans involved, and Kaworu naively believes that this is how he can make it all better. It's why he does and says the things he does. If it did go as Kaworu had planned, it would have looped again, and everything would play out the same, again.
But Gendo/Fuyu know it'll play out exactly the same each and every time. As time isn't reversible. If it's a loop, it's a literal one.

If it does go this route, I think it's more a plan to break out of this ongoing "groundhog day", rather than go back one more time and try fixing it, as Reichu says, its pretty much the entire message that this is not possible.

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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:33 am

View Original PostZoop wrote:If it does go this route, I think it's more a plan to break out of this ongoing "groundhog day"

Exactly where in the story was it ever revealed or implied that time travel shenanigans were ever a thing in Eva?
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Postby Zoop » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:58 am

Im referencing the points raised by Shun, notibly
* Hideaki Anno said that Eva is a story that repeats.
* Akira Ishida said that Kaworu has accumulated several cycles of his past.
And the things Kaworu mentions, about "this time", and meeting Shinji again, and having some sort of plan for reversing things (which got foiled by Gendo).

Also, i don't use the word "if" for nothing. If its going this way, I sincerely doubt we'll actually (as viewers) get to go back to a clean beginning where everything is happily prevented. That would defeat the whole purpose of these movies, as Reichu mentions.

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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:27 am

Did Kaworu actually say "This time" in the original Japanese script? I recall it was just "I look forward to meeting you Shinji Ikari"
As for the previous two comments, i'm going to need the context of the conversations they were said in
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Postby Zoop » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:42 am

How about actually reading it up top? Links are present.

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Postby Shun » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:11 am

Guys, you don't understand what I'm trying to say. Maybe I didn't explain it well. Have you read the two articles that I linked in the first post?

The message for Shinji and for us is not the repair of past mistakes with a magic backward time travel. In our real world it can't be done, so it's a wrong message. Shinji must learn to live life in the present, if he make a mistakes he must get up and go on. The message is always "Nigecha dame da!" / "I mustn't run away!"

The point in NTE is: why will Shinji choose to not run away? Why will Shinji accept the present?

Fuyutsuki says quite flatly that you can't reverse time -- there's no going backward. One has to rebuild instead, and this is difficult. This difficulty is why Gendo has to make the sacrifices he does. Shinji thought he would be able to engage in some kind of "undo" regimen, but Gendo had other plans -- things were intentionally rigged so that the magic fix Kaworu talked about never had a chance of being implemented. In other words, Gendo had no interest in it. When combined with what Fuyutsuki said (and said specifically in an attempt to tell Shinji about Gendo), it does NOT paint a picture of Gendo as some Peggy Sue fix-fic crusader.


I understand your interpretation, and it’is a good possibility but in the absence of the last movie all our considerations remain hypotheses, not facts. In my second interpretation (Gendo wants restore the world or create the world of harmony) I agree with this option. But a priori Fuyutsuki's phrase can also be interpreted in another way.

Destroy the world is simple. Rebuild the world is difficult. Time and world aren't reversible. Gendo is sacrificing everything for his desire. This is a bit part of truth.

1st option
Rebuild the world is difficult because time and world aren't reversible, but Gendo is sacrificing everything to inverted the temporal causality and to erased all past mistakes.

2nd option
Rebuild the world is difficult because time and world aren't reversible, but Gendo is sacrificing everything for rebuild a new world in the present.

In each case in 3.0 is necessary that Shinji gets on the Eva-13. Fuyutsuki say to Shinji a partial truth capable of breaking him, and in this way Shinji clings to the hope offered by Kaworu. But Cassius there isn't in the dogma and Wille manages to stop the Fourth Impact. Gendo's goals in 3.0 are awakening of Eva-13 and Kaworu death. This is not the right time for rebuild the world. But the next time...

The message is pretty clearly "don't look back -- look forward". Fixing things with time travel is for fanfics that can't accept what's happened in the "real timeline". "Going backwards" instead of making things better going forward is also a mentality that's destroying our world right now. It needs to be criticised, not endorsed by catering to a sci-fi trope that is extremely played out at this point. "Grow up", Gendo tells his son, shortly before Shinji becomes a metaphorical hikikomori for fourteen years.


I agree, I never said anything against it.

I try to explain more what I mean with time travel metaphor.

During depression, it's difficult to accept given things or changes tout court, without motivation. For example, the violence to bring hikikomori out of the home is unsuccessful (http://www.hikikomori-news.com/?p=1656), precisely because they cannot accept things tout court.
This situation could depend on modern society and lifestyle, during the great breakdown of the "classical grand narratives" (Otaku: Japan's Database Animals, by Hiroki Azuma). Further, the progressive disruption of social relationships seems to have worsened this issue. But I don't know, I'm not a psychologist.

Anno always defines pros and cons in his works.

For example in NGE and in EoE Shinji doesn't solve his problem by accepting reality tout court, Shinji doesn't change because Kaji or Gendo tell him "you have to grow up". Shinji changes when he understands the pros and cons during HIP. Both in episode 26 and in EoE Shinji is alone, in the closed room and in the LCL Sea there are tranquility and harmony, but each person lose his identity and the emotions that can be experience in social life.
Shinji doesn't reject the HIP because he's forced, he doesn't choose to live because he's forced, but chooses to live because he understands what are the pros and cons. Mind you, it isn't convenience, it is awareness.

What I meaning is that in NTE Anno could use a similar strategy, with the pros and cons.
In our real world it's not possible to go backward in time, we must accept this ban tout court.
But a person who thinks and rethinks the mistakes he has made in the past cannot accept tout court that cannot change the past. If I tell this person that he must stop thinking about the past, because it's impossible to change it, he doesn't stop thinking about it. In fact, a depressed person or a hikikomori doesn't heal in this way, doesn't accept reality, and Anno knows it well, is needed a path to be able to heal (for example: https://japantoday.com/category/features/ kuchikomi / some-local-Governments-successfully-reintegrated-'hikikomori'-back-into-society).

So how do you do it? With a book/movie you can show a "what if", you can give to the person what they want, but putting bounds and pros & cons, so that they can reason on the problem. In EoE Anno shows us the LCL Sea, a place where there are no people, where there is the highest level of mutual unity / amae (Anatomy of dependence, by Takeo Doi), the otaku's dream. But Shinji / Anno destroy this "dream", because in this place I'm not exist and there is no happiness. Anno explain why this place isn't good, he shows the cons of this dream. So, nigecha dame da!

Shinji destroy part of world with Third and Fourth Impacts. "I don't care what happens to me. I don't care what happens to the world."
Misato saw the Second Impact, and his father died in that circumstance. Misato in 3.0 feels guilty about herself because in 2.0 she said: "Go for it, Shinji-kun! Don't do this for someone else! Do this for your own desires!"

Have you seen Puella Magi Madoka Magica? Anno loved that job. In the last episode Madoka made a wish:

MADOKA: I have found the desire I want to fulfill. And for that desire I am ready to give my life. [...] This is the only solution that I managed to find with my skills.
KYUBEY: You who have become a singularity in the cause-and-effect principle and rule the fate of many worlds, you could make any wish big. [...] So Madoka Kaname, you know that the soul is the price to pay, tell me, what is your desire?
MADOKA: I want to eliminate witches before they are spawned, throughout the universe. I want the witches of the past and the future to disappear.
KYUBEY: If your wish came true it would be more than interference in the course of events. You would subvert the very principle of causality. Are you really going to become a divinity?
MADOKA: All the girls who fought the witches, all the sorceresses who believed in hope ... I don't want them to suffer! I want them to smile until the end. And if there is any natural law that prevents me, then I will break it, I will bend it! This is my prayer. This is my wish. And now make it happen, Incubator!


Madoka becomes a divinity. The soul is the price to pay. Temporal causality is inverted, eliminating all witches in the past and future before they are spawned.

Gendo becomes a divinity. The soul is the price to pay. Temporal causality is inverted, eliminating all past mistakes including Angels and Impacts.

If Gendo's plan offer to Shinji the opportunity to do things all over again with Yui and Gendo (by erasing all Impacts), offer to Misato the opportunity to have his father (by erasing Second Impact), offer to the whole world the recovery from the L-field (cancellation of all the damage caused by the Impacts) there would be a great dilemma both for Shinji, for Misato, and for all the others.
How do you turn down such a great opportunity? The way, the reasons to reject this opportunity and accept the present world, the present life, with all mistakes, is the Rebuild's message.

At this point the Anno's idea could be this: if changing the past was possible but there were some bounds, some important cons, such as the loss of relationships and knowledge, then would you be willing to go back?
If a person who cannot stop thinking about past mistakes had the real possibility of going backward in time, with the disadvantage of losing everything he learned in his life and all human relationships, then would he be willing to do it?
Going back in time would give this person a chance to try again (pros), however he would lose knowledge and future relationships (cons). Going backward in time provides the opportunity to try again, but I would be able to do things better than the previous time? I could do things worse than the previous time.
In this way, is offer to depressed person a reason to reflect on, a reason that said why time travel is not good, a reason that highlights the importance of present knowledge and relationships. He must not stop thinking about the past and accept tout court the present, but he can learn to live in the present by recognizing the importance of everything he has done in the past, in order to learn to be responsible for the future.
In NGE and EoE Shinji understands the pros and cons of the closed room and of the LCL Sea, in RoE Shinji understands the pros and cons of the time causality.

In any case the last movie has not been released and Anno can do anything he wants, also doing something that none of us has thought of. For me it was also just interesting to think about the pros and cons of time travel, and if Anno did it I would like it.
Furthermore as I said, I repeat it again, Gendo's plan could also consist in restore the world or creating a world of harmony, the dilemma of the loss of knowledge and relationships is not necessarily bound to the case of backward time travel.
For example, even in the ending of Sadamoto's manga Shinji loses memory and relationships, in the new rebuilded world Shinji can try again, but it is not a backward time travel, it is a rebuilding forward in time. Anno could do something like this.

Bernard claimed that we are like dwarves on the shoulders of giants, so that we can see more things and further away from them, however not because of the acuity of sight or the power of the body, but because we sit higher and rise thanks to the greatness of the giants.

We are simultaneously dwarves and giants, we are dwarfs towards a past towards which to be grateful, for the knowledge acquired and relationships, and giants towards a future towards which to be responsible. Shinji must learn to live life in the present, if he make a mistakes he must get up and go on. The message is always "Nigecha dame da!" / "I mustn't run away!"

"Original Sin" and "purification" are motifs in the film on a level beyond esoteric symbolism -- the universe's metaphysics are tied up in them. I have a thread coming up on all this stuff so I won't show too much of my hand here.


Ok, I wait for it with curiosity and I will read it with interest. Can you give us a hypothetical deadline? Days, weeks, months ...

I hope you understand what I wrote. I'm sorry for my english.

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Postby Reichu » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:55 am

I have to apologize, Shun! I made the dumb mistake of jumping to conclusions before reading the actual analysis, which is obviously a bad idea and I shouldn't have done it. I've started to look at your writings, and I'm really impressed. You assemble a lot of observation, information, and ideas, and that's no small feat. Your areas of interest overlap heavily with mine; the essays were uncanny at times. The level of "Rebuild" scholarship in the English-speaking community has been pretty low in my experience -- we've had a number of productive threads here, but I'm not aware of much else that really digs into the richness of the films. (If anyone is aware of such analysis, please hit me up with some links.) It's been incredibly frustrating for me. Thanks for all of the fresh material. It'll take some time to process fully!

I'll attempt a proper response to you once I actually know what I'm talking about. :sweatdrop:

For the thread, I'm going to see if I can get it done by the first half of March. If you're interested (though you may have already seen it), my work in this thread serves as a sort of launching point. It's been six months since then and my ideas have evolved, but a lot of the material is still entirely relevant to the upcoming thread.

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Postby Shun » Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:17 pm

Don't worry, apologies accepted and thanks for compliments!
My analyzes of NTE aren't as depth as yours, I like to search some plausible references from which Anno may have taken inspiration, but then I don't deepen much how these are used in the work, I just make some hypotheses.
The points that very interests me are the social context and the work's message, so I try to understand what Anno wants to tell us. And I very like the interviews (btw, thank you so much for these, Gwern, Numbers-kun, Bochan bird, etc).
Aside what I have writed in this thread and in the articles, I'm wait the last movie because I haven't another ideas. So, I'm wait to read your new post. :wink:

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Postby Cookie H Wilson » Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:04 pm

View Original PostShun wrote:My analysis of AVANT 1, published in italian in December 27, 2019: click.

Important points:
- Kiyoko Suizenji's song invites us to live our life sincerely.
- The cryptoanalysis operation and the knowledge left by someone (Je vous laisse) are metaphors to show that everything we do in the present depends on the past, it's thanks to everything we have learned in the past that we can do things now. Anno shows us the causality of the world, of human life, of knowledge and relationships.
- The battle shows us the courage to not give up and the attempt to go on, to find a way, despite all the difficulties.
- The Paris restoration shows references to other works loved by Anno, and opens interesting perspectives for Wille's and Nerv's plans, above all it allows us to think about the possible metatextual Rebuild's message.

Time, causality, knowledge, relationships.
Am I willing to lose everything to try again?

I also add this article, always in italian, published in July 02, 2019: click
The foundamental point, for me, aren't Blake's mythology and all reference (yep, are important to build the show, and I read, few months ago, the very detailed and interesting Reichu's theory) but is the metatextual Rebuild's question. So, I tried to answer about this focal point whit this two articles.

If someone want to leave an opinion, I would be glad. My English isn't good, so I will try to make short answers.


Wow what a great article!!! Thanks man
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Postby LightDragonman » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:18 am

Wonder how exactly that message is gonna work though, considering just how far gone Shinji is, what with him screwing things over for billions of people. Like, what he's done and the lives lost as a result of him aren't exactly something one can just brush aside.

I know you guys have speculated that he wasn't responsible for all those billions of deaths, but that's just speculation. Why would Kaworu lie to him like that when the film keeps on showing him as being such a pure and loving person to Shinji?
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Postby Arcadia's legacy » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:51 am

Probably in part due to the fact that Kaworu deliberately withholds information Shinji should really know about, such as when Kaworu Speared him at the end of 2.0, or that he says removing the spears will somehow fix everything, but he doesn't really elaborate as to how or why
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Postby robersora » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:54 am

Yeah, Shinji might have attempted committing accidental Genocide twice now, but who knows what Anno really is cooking up here...
At this point I just want a big Complete Records Collection interview illuminating the process of how 3.0 and Shin Eva happened and the in-between.
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Postby Shun » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:37 am

Wow what a great article!!! Thanks man
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Thanks! I'm glad you liked it! :)

Wonder how exactly that message is gonna work though, considering just how far gone Shinji is, what with him screwing things over for billions of people.


If I understood the question: Shinji provoked N3I and 4I, he almost destroyed the world, many people died, so how will Shinji serve his sentence and get out of this situation in a positive way? Also: Kaworu lies? Hadn't he stopped Eva-01 with Cassius's spear? Is it all Shinji's fault?

Some speculation.
It's not 100% sure that scene after 2.0 end credits is set in continuity. Maybe Kaworu doesn't use Cassius's spear against Eva-01 in the cycle 1.0 -> 2.0 -> 3.0, but maybe he uses it against Eva-01 in a subsequent cycle, something like this: 1.0 -> 2.0 -> 3.0 -> Shin -> 1.0 (modified) -> 2.0 (modified + Kaworu scene) -> 3.0 (modified) -> Shin. Shinji is guilty of what he did, i.e. trigger of N3I and 4I, but then we have to wait Shin to understand if all the destruction of N3I (moon, failure of Infinity, core world) is Shinji's fault or not. However, if the events include Cassius' spear scene, it's possible that the Eva-01 woke up during the time skip, as when 01 waking up in the space to defend Asuka.
Furthermore, it's necessary to see if Anno will use Shinji's guilt in a literal sense (responsibility for the death of human beings) or in a metaphorical sense for fandom, in the sense that killing humanity is Anno's way to show concretely a mistake at the public beyond the fourth wall. The catastrophes feed the imagination of Japanese cinema and in the Tracks interview Anno says that he uses animation to vent his internal catastrophes, that is, the catastrophes that occur for example in Evangelion are the mirror of internal traumas. In this sense catastrophe is a metaphor.

Hideaki Anno - Tracks interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CdNJqgCRLU
(sub ita: http://distopia.altervista.org/2017/04/ ... mbre-2015/)

In The End of Evangelion Shinji refuses HIP and every human being can decide whether to return to live or not, maybe even in Shin every human being will be able to choose something, whether to live in the present, or elsewhere. However, in my opinion, those who died are dead and will not return. The error will remain as a warning. How will Shinji make the choice? Well, that is the theme of the movie.

At this point I just want a big Complete Records Collection interview illuminating the process of how 3.0 and Shin Eva happened and the in-between.

Yeee, I'm waiting CRC!


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