Shin Ultraman

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Postby Warren Peace » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:50 pm

So I've had basically no experience with Ultraman but would love to check it out ahead of the new movie. Which works would anyone here recommend? I'm specifically interested in things that are known to be relevant to (or likely to be relevant to) Shin Ultraman. It seems like a movie you shouldn't walk into without any prior knowledge of the character, so I'd love to have some context.

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Postby MuscleRobo » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:07 am

View Original PostWarren Peace wrote:So I've had basically no experience with Ultraman but would love to check it out ahead of the new movie. Which works would anyone here recommend? I'm specifically interested in things that are known to be relevant to (or likely to be relevant to) Shin Ultraman. It seems like a movie you shouldn't walk into without any prior knowledge of the character, so I'd love to have some context.


It's impossible to know which exactly will end up being important, in Shin Godzilla he referenced a Kamen Rider from 2003 after all, the trailers/collab I've seen mostly show things from the original 1966 Ultraman and 1967 Ultraseven.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:05 pm

View Original PostMuscleRobo wrote: in Shin Godzilla he referenced a Kamen Rider from 2003 after all,

What is the reference?
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Postby MuscleRobo » Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:24 am

View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:
View Original PostMuscleRobo#937594 wrote: in Shin Godzilla he referenced a Kamen Rider from 2003 after all,

What is the reference?


In Kamen Rider 555 the evil organization secretly controlling the world behind the scenes of a normal business is an "Amazon-Like" company and the chemicals delivered at the end of the movie come in boxes from them. The company's name is "Smart Brain."

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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:53 pm

∆ Oh interesting haha.
Thanks!
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Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...
Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work."
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Postby kuribo-04 » Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:04 am

Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."
Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...
Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work."
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Postby Thuktun Flishithy » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:47 am

;_; yet still no news of a proper US release. I want to watch it in theaters dammit. I wanna see Ultraman on the big screen with all my friends like we've been discussing for months.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:35 am

Someone subtitled the first 10 minutes in Spanish (couldn't find English subs):
https://youtu.be/NW9xCOQ2X4Y

The shot compositions and things chosen to be depicted feel so, so Anno. Either Anno storyboarded or something, or Higuchi is just really good at catching what makes Anno Anno.
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Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...
Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work."
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Postby MuscleRobo » Thu Nov 17, 2022 9:45 am

So if you go to AMC's website it says Shin Ultraman is starting on January 11th, 2023. I can't seem to find corroborating information though. See the link . https://www.amctheatres.com/movies/shin-ultraman-71952
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Postby Thuktun Flishithy » Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:59 pm

Fathom Events has officially confirmed a US release of Shin Ultraman on January 11th for subs, 12th for dub.

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Postby MuscleRobo » Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:38 am

Shin Ultraman tickets are now available in the US! I bought three for my showing but only one other seat had been sold yet. When I saw the Ultraman X movie in theaters a few years ago there was a surprising amount of people there but it was also only in one kind of "art house" theater downtown. I'm sooooooo looking foward to this.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:09 am

Got a ticket for the 11th. I know the movie is out there but I'm glad I've waited and the first time I'll see it is on the big screen.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:24 am





https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0BQHTL68G?psc=1&smid=AN1VRQENFRJN5&ref_=chk_typ_quicklook_titleToDp
Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."
Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...
Hayashida: "As game developers, our work is special. All of us here can put smiles on very many people's faces with our work."
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Postby MuscleRobo » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:03 am

I loved it!!! I want to say to everyone if you had worried about seeing this because you don't know Ultraman don't worry! This movie is entirely self contained, heck there really aren't references to the original show besides musical stings and sound effects. I took someone who had never seen any Ultraman before and she loved it too.

In fact being a fan of the original I was confused with the design and relationships between two characters but doing research I learned it came from a young Anno reading an old magazine that had a poor monochrome scan of a screenshot. The magazine also had misinformation about a kaiju in it that Anno believed as well. This led to Anno believing this character was a different color until he saw a rerun years later!

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Postby Thuktun Flishithy » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:40 am

Holy shit that movie was good. Fantastic job of making Ultraman feel so alien and ethereal compared to the kaiju.

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Postby Joy Evangelion » Fri Jan 13, 2023 12:53 pm

Yea, Shin Ultraman was incredible, really blew me away from the beginning. I don't really have any experience with the character but loved it nonetheless, and def got some Eva vibes from the fight scenes.
I used to work in a factory and I was really happy because I could daydream all day -- I.C.
And thanks to EVA, I've started like myself and that has made me very happy. Mr. Anno, please keep working on EVA a lot more.
and thank you so much for everything!!

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Postby AsuQa_PsyOp_Langley » Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:09 am

"Shin" is becoming a bit of his personal branding.
Edit : Anno, I mean.
I know "shin" is a usual word and one, I believe one that has been used for several franchise installments in the past, but releasing 3 films with that moniker do cement him and his close collaborators as the people you call to bring back those cultural staples to modern day audiences. The Godzilla series did that a number of times already, Ultraman -while I understand well known and influential- though it feels like it's really stepping it back up to wide relevance.

Edit : Saw it. Liked it a lot but it's a step below Shin Godzilla. I love how straight they play some of the conventions
SPOILER: Show
(the evil ETs coming to earth either with a spy hat and trenchcoat or as a lousy transparently hypocrite evangelist to cut shady deals with human leaders is very true to source)
but I think the dramatic intensity never spikes too high even if the stakes keep increasing, maybe because of the somewhat faithful / somewhat intentional of the human cast being both wooden and stiff but also a larger than life superhero supporting team (something the characters in Shin Godzilla didn't have to assume).
It's obviously very Anno-ish / Eva-ish (not to give the master all of the credit on a team effort) but distinct enough from the Godzilla to be its own variation.
I'd put it somewhere between the latest Godzilla and the Kaneko's Gamera (which had some incredible work and craftsmanship to showcase but were also a little stiff or vapid at point).

It's really cool that this Gainax/Khara crew, that obviously took so much from kaiju films and similar genres for Evangelion are now "giving" back, so to speak, and keeping those films and characters up to date and relevant in the modern age.

The only risk going forward is maybe having the style get a little samey if they apply it to sequels or other similar franchises. But that's a rich people's problem and only a potential one at that (Japanese film industry is not producing those films at the pace they used to). Anno, Higuchi & co are definitely the best in the business (worldwide) at tackling scale, gigantism and relating it to human characters... Eva fans will definitely feel at home here with all that or the very characteristic blocking & framing techniques.

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Postby MuscleRobo » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:22 pm

FYI: A Blu-Ray is confirmed for "Spring" I know a real date would be better but I'm glad it's confirmed at all.

http://cleopatra-entertainment.com/cleo ... -ultraman/


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