Edit: Anybody know a good way to get screenshots from the Netflix streams?
Try screen video recording and then screen-capture... That works for Crunchyroll's app...
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silvermoonlight wrote:I'm not because it looks regressive rather than progressive and the rumour that studio Khara were behind it only adds to the problem as Evangelion is loved by a lot of people because it questions gender roles, sex, sexuality and you can read in to underlying themes for LGBT in to it so for this to be stripped out to some feels like direct betrayal since in the older ADV dub kept the line in and ran with it.
Reichu wrote:The comparison should have really included the Collection DVD subtitles for completeness' sake. I was there when the VHS images were being collected (they were snapped by my husband, in fact), so I dunno why I failed to act at the time...SPOILER: Show
A lot of people experienced it solely through the dub, which in Collection uses "love" (also translates koui as "sympathy", for the curious). We would need someone with the dubbed VHS tapes to know if this was an alteration or not.
Tumbling Down wrote:You're talking about one episode out of twenty-six, where the relationship in question was explicitly doomed by its very nature. I don't understand how a potential homosexual relationship between Shinji and Kaworu could be the key appeal for people. I suppose if people only saw the Rebuilds, where Kaworu is 1/3 (soon to be 1/4) instead of 1/26 of the series, it's possible, but that's not what's on Netflix.
I love the (unintentional?) Fly Me to the Moon quote here.
. Looking back on former forum antics, the "not actually a literal mother, you sillies!" thing was presaged by this thread. Maybe this was the right translation choice, but for me the ambiguity of what these beings actually were enriched the experience greatly, and having the khara-sanctioned subtitles telling me to bugger off with all that is... unpleasant.
FelipeFritschF wrote:Alright, made a wiki article surrounding Kaworu's lines: https://wiki.evageeks.org/Theory_and_An ... Episode_24
Vox article wrote:This is a section of the book that is separate from Anno’s interviews, and perhaps was written by its editor, Kentaro Takekuma, and not taken from Anno himself. But the inclusion of this reference to the love between the two characters makes it clear, at least, that an explicitly queer reading of the characters was officially on the radar as early as 1997.
In his email, however, Kanemitsu noted that Anno makes no reference to the characters’ sexuality in the interviews that appear in the two books. He shared with us quotes from Anno, taken from the other companion book. (Vox has verified Kanemitsu’s translation.) In that book, Hideaki Anno Schizo Neon Genesis Evangelion, Anno repeats several times in his interview that the series is meant to be ambiguous, something of “a Rorschach test.” As translated by Kanemitsu in his email, one passage in particular implies that Anno intended for everything to be up for debate:
Anno: [Eva is a work] where the remaining process [of completing the work] is in the hands of the audience. I place strong emphasis in that relationship. After you get to a certain point, I want them to make their own judgment. There are portions where things are left ambiguous, so it all depends on how you view [and judge it for yourself.] I think the character of the person [e.g. a personality] reveals itself in that process. [Eva is a work] where if ten people watch it, not all of the ten will [compliment] it. In that sense, it’s very Japanese.
Numbers-kun wrote:The books contain three interviews: two long interviews with Anno, dated June 19, 1996 (Schizo) and August 28, 1996 (Parano); and a long roundtable with Otsuki, Sadamoto, Sato, Tsurumaki, and Masayuki, which is split between the two books and undated.
[...]The roundtable takes place over drinks, and is very candid from the outset ^^ The interviewers are Mitsunari Oizumi and Kentaro Takekuma (with a few brief contributions from Yuichi Akata).
Otaku Mode article wrote:“Because the intervals (between Evangelion: 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0) steadily grow longer, I wonder if having the next one take place four years, no, six years later would be good.”
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