[NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby SEELE-01 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:35 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Yeah, not sure how to feel about this. New people are going to be flocking to our wiki which is a garbage dump that needs an unimaginable amount of work done. I feel accountable for the state of that place (rightly or wrongly) but I don't know how to fix the problem in a way that doesn't play ball with my neuroses and other dysfunctions.


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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby robersora » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:49 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote: Eva’s gonna blow up after all this in a noticeable way. I actually think this garuntees a US disc release through Funi or Nozomi within the next few years, whereas before it wouldn’t have. More people will know of it through Netflix, and more people will become dissatisfied staying there afterwards. This is gonna be HUGE.


At least it finally has a chance to garner the recognition it deserves in the West. Also, Funimation has been bought up by Sony, which means much deeper pockets than before, so if Eva blows up considerably this could really mean a disc release down the line.

All in all, despite Reichu's understandable clamoring for obscurity of her favorite show, at least Anno's wallet might have very bright days ahead.
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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:13 pm

Oh, I love it when seiyuu talk together on Twitter. Yesterday, Ogata and Iwanaga (Kensuke) chatted about the Netflix deal/referenced episode 4:



Also, I think we can all agree the trailer's vastly improved now! :asuka_thumbsup:

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:17 am

Netflix is going all in on classic 90s anime (kind’ve) having just now announced a 10 episode live action COWBOY BEBOP is coming to Netflix.

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:38 am

^ Shinichiro Wantanabe already did a live-action short film for Bebop that featured Faye. I can't see myself enjoying these 10 episodes more than that one short film. (Or the actual anime series, for that matter.)

View Original Postrobersora wrote:All in all, despite Reichu's understandable clamoring for obscurity of her favorite show, at least Anno's wallet might have very bright days ahead.

I wouldn't worry too much about the newcomers. For lack of a better term, Eva is a series that will "gatekeep" itself in the West, and there's no need for us to worry about it. Netflix's own retention rate statistics will probably attest to that. It’ll be a pretty solid binge up until the late teens/early 20s episodes, a good solid pause, and then another binge to finish up the show and the movies, followed up by whatever kids show it takes to help audiences feel again. Shows like that don't gain a massive casual following. (Especially in our binge-happy era of media consumption.) They separate the adults from the children, and chase away the stereotypical Soccer Moms. Within two days tops of Netflix dropping it onto their platform, most newcomers will either realize that they can't casually watch a 30-mile-tall Rei decapitate and collapse into planet Earth and shut it off, or they'll realize that this show is what they've needed their whole lives.

Besides, unlike the entitled Star Wars fandumb, I don't want my favorite fandom in the West to die with my generation. This is a great opportunity to pass the torch.

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby Joseki » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:55 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Either way, the next two years are going to be interesting times as an Eva fan.


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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:33 am

That re-edit of Netflix's trailer is pure MAGIC.

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby TBsq » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:25 am

I hope that putting this on Netflix doesn't bastardize the name of Evangelion more than it already is, being an object of popular culture. Having Netflix as a publisher can repel some cinephiles. I know it's stupid, but it was the case for me... I was almost serious about Mubi earlier.

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby hui43210 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:49 am

View Original PostTBsq wrote:I hope that putting this on Netflix doesn't bastardize the name of Evangelion more than it already is, being an object of popular culture. Having Netflix as a publisher can repel some cinephiles. I know it's stupid, but it was the case for me... I was almost serious about Mubi earlier.


You realize this show is very much pop culture in Japan right? And has a shit ton of merch/figures/video games/clothing/razors/toolboxs etc attached to name. Or the memes which are very much ingrained in the West. Not sure how Netflix is the one to “bastardize” the name. But I’m the guy who is fascinated by the business and technology side of things so what do I know.
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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:11 pm

One CANNOT bastardize a property by simply making it available in it's original form. The absolute WORST thing they can do to Evangelion is use the English dubs from D&R and EoE, which is a thing that we have already survived and lived through as a community without any lasting damage to Eva's reputation. We're fine.

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby fnikhall » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:46 pm

Most excited for the End of Evangelion release on Netflix tbh. I already have the original series on blu-ray, but getting any release of EoE other than the Manga Entertainment release is exciting
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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby hui43210 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:31 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:One CANNOT bastardize a property by simply making it available in it's original form. The absolute WORST thing they can do to Evangelion is use the English dubs from D&R and EoE, which is a thing that we have already survived and lived through as a community without any lasting damage to Eva's reputation. We're fine.


This more than anything. Eoe’s dub is an amazingly awful dub. Seeing as most casual viewers will watch the dubbed version, I really hope Netflix will spend the money to fund a faithful adaptation, even if it’s different from the rebuild cast. Plus it would give me a greater incentive to watch when it’s released, as it would be a new version of a film I’m very familiar with.
Is the 3.0 spoiler policy gone?.... Cool, then I'm nominating myself as EvaGeeks 1# Sakura Suzuhara fan/nerd.

I mean, predictability is the central attraction and the narrative hook that we've all come to expect from the Evangelion franchise. How come Anno can't realize this? Twice? - FreakyFilmFan4ever

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby Ambiant23 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:51 pm

I agree actually

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:27 pm

Come to think of it, I'm kinda hoping that they do a new sub/dub track at least for D&R and EoE. The mistranslations and factual errors in the Manga Ent. version is confusing at best and embarrassing at worst. Otherwise, I wouldn't care what they did. (Especially with the dub.) But we don't need that kind of confusion for a show that is already confusing when properly viewed.

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby pwhodges » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:43 pm

On reflection, I'm sure the cost of new subs and dubs would not put Netflix off doing them. I mean, they really roll them out already. For instance, The Piano Forest was released three months after its Japanese transmission with something like (from memory) a score of sets of subs and eight dubs. And if they could get rights to the subs and dubs in some languages that are OK and available, then redoing the worst (i.e. English) would be a pretty small matter for them.
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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:46 pm

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Yeah, unless there's some major thing I'm forgetting, NGE's Platinum subs at least, were on point. (The dub has the usual issues like Ritsuko's vastly different characterization, and using Tiffany Grant all 5 times for the "This isn't the real me!" ep 22' sequence, and I think a line in ep 2 about brain damage? I'm generally a subtitles gal with Eva, so :shrug: )

Death/EoE 100% needs a retranslation like I mentioned back here. Despite my excitement, I personally feel anxious enough about translation matters to ask Dan Kanemitsu himself (or Netflix) what's up, but I feel like it's too early in this stage for them to give an answer—assuming they're allowed to discuss that to begin with (NDAs, etc, etc).
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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:11 pm

For all of ADV's faults, their subs/dubs ended up being translationally accurate. (I'll have to check, but I think they might have even fixed the "Brain Damage" line in their later releases. I at least remember them addressing that issue in their audio commentary for the episode.) But, yeah, I tend to focus more on subs than dubs myself as well. But even then, EoE is a train wreck of nonsense.

I'd think that Netflix could get back as much of the original cast as possible. Even if they're stationed in California, I'm sure all of the Texan actors could arrange satellite recording station with Netflix. Does anyone know how Netflix usually does voice dubs? Because that would be interesting.

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:17 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:For all of ADV's faults, their subs/dubs ended up being translationally accurate.


Exactly, that's why I liked 'em, too. Mangle Entertainment on the other hand...no offense to them, but hoo boy.

(I'll have to check, but I think they might have even fixed the "Brain Damage" line in their later releases. I at least remember them addressing that issue in their audio commentary for the episode.)


Ahh, I remember that too. Pretty sure you're right and they did fix it ^_^
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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby Tumbling Down » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:17 pm

Are they going to produce new subtitles for this, or are they going to license the old subtitles? (Who would even have them now?)

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Re: [NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

Postby Guy Nacks » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:49 pm

Speaking as someone who has knowledge in this area, I can almost guarantee that Netflix will not use the original subtitle files from the platinum release because there is no way that those particular subtitles would conform to Netflix's current specs and formats, so they're probably going to be redone from scratch. Plus the original .srt/.vtt/whatever files themselves are so old that I wonder if they even still exist on a server at ADV somewhere.

Most likely, Netflix being Netflix and having money to throw around, will produce new subtitle tracks for all of the languages that the material will be translated into. They probably have commissioned a complete retranslation of the series/films since they're going to be producing new subtitle tracks anyway. That is probably part of the reason why it will not stream for another 4-6 months.

As far as producing a new dub goes....I think it's very unlikely. I don't think there has ever been an old anime property that Netflix streamed that ever had a new dub produced solely for that platform where one already existed.
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