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Postby Zeta_One » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:15 pm

SSSS Gridman was the second best kaiju/tokusatsu feature of the decade. Shin Godzilla in first place of course.

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Postby Alaska Slim » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:52 am

View Original PostJoseki wrote:I feel stupid for never noticing he was a boy. :|

I could have sworn I saw a reference that "his" character design was inspired by someone from Oreimo.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:26 am

A few trivia from the final scene : the actress in the final scene is Sakanoue Akane; as well as the Trigger paraphernalia in her room, there is also the Japanese equivalent of a Barbie-doll, called Licca-chan. Now, how would you normally expect that name to be romanized?




Obi Masaya who played Naoto in the original also did some promo work for this series as well as making a cameo as himself

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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:34 am

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Postby MuscleRobo » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:30 am

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:A few trivia from the final scene : the actress in the final scene is Sakanoue Akane; as well as the Trigger paraphernalia in her room, there is also the Japanese equivalent of a Barbie-doll, called Licca-chan. Now, how would you normally expect that name to be romanized?




Obi Masaya who played Naoto in the original also did some promo work for this series as well as making a cameo as himself

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That's so fun! Also something interesting is that Licca-Chan is a Takara property who co-produced the original Gridman show. I haven't found anyone talking about this or Naoto's actor so I'm glad I can count on Evageeks to show me the good stuff. For something interesting that might have went over other people's head as an easter egg in the karaoke booth when one of the people on the date asks Akane if her Line icon is Baltan from the original Ultraman and she gets all annoyed is because the kaiju was actually Reguran from Ultraman Tiga. She was essentially getting mad at a "normie" for something pretty reasonable! Also all three of the youtubers are named after now defunct toy companies that had the Macross license at one time and all colored as "Jetfire" toys which was the Transformers toy that was just a recolor of valkyrie from Macross.

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Postby cyharding » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:57 am

Bumping this due to the announcment of SSSS.Dynazenon anime, which is supposed to take place in the "Gridman Universe."
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Postby robersora » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:15 am

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well it's Trigger again, so I'm pretty sure this might be good :) But let's see.
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Postby Justacrazyguy » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:24 am

The director is the same, along with a bunch of other staff. That makes me really happy. Gridman is one of my favourite Trigger anime, so them making more of it is great.

I guess they're trying to turn this into a franchise?
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Postby MuscleRobo » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:43 am

Pretty excited to see this not much to discuss except a few things that are spoilers

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Will this take place in the "real world?" I think it will be more like the tokusatsu than SSSS. If it comes back will we have a Gridman Sigma style situation where Akane works with the Gridman alliance in the real world to help them? I really love Akane so much so it would be great to see her reformed like Takeshi. Obviously Dyna Dragon is coming back so we'll probably see some equivalent of King Gridman.

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Postby Zeta_One » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:04 am

SSSS Gridman was great. Fingers crossed that this new series will be just as good. If not better.

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Postby Shamsiel-kun » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:29 pm

View Original PostZeta_One wrote:SSSS Gridman was great. Fingers crossed that this new series will be just as good. If not better.


Instead of crossing fingers, shouldn't we be making the Baltan-gesture (i.e. index and middle finger together and ring and pinkie together)? ^_^

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That's so fun! Also something interesting is that Licca-Chan is a Takara property who co-produced the original Gridman show. I haven't found anyone talking about this or Naoto's actor so I'm glad I can count on Evageeks to show me the good stuff. For something interesting that might have went over other people's head as an easter egg in the karaoke booth when one of the people on the date asks Akane if her Line icon is Baltan from the original Ultraman and she gets all annoyed is because the kaiju was actually Reguran from Ultraman Tiga. She was essentially getting mad at a "normie" for something pretty reasonable! Also all three of the youtubers are named after now defunct toy companies that had the Macross license at one time and all colored as "Jetfire" toys which was the Transformers toy that was just a recolor of valkyrie from Macross.


The show also has a metric crapton of Yuusha/Brave references (shows that were all sponsored by Takara). Full Powered Gridman turning gold, attacks, transformations, gattai sequences, color schemes, you name it.
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Postby robersora » Fri May 08, 2020 10:41 am

New visual for SSSS Dynazenon
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Definitely a downgrade from the stellar designs of the original; except for the MC which seems like he might break out the mold of generic MC?
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Postby MuscleRobo » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:36 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:New visual for SSSS Dynazenon
SPOILER: Show

Definitely a downgrade from the stellar designs of the original; except for the MC which seems like he might break out the mold of generic MC?


Well, the unique color schemes of some of the characters comes from their usual Transformers references like the first season. Some of the characters in the visuals are based on the second season of Beast Wars specifically Spittor and Stink Bomb. Also ...

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I'm not sure if it's just the visual but it seems someone is standing on the building in the top left corner if you focus on it.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:34 am

Hey, look at me rolling up in this thread being really laaaaaate to the party! It took me a while to watch the series because I don't really want to invest in streaming services. (The permanence of the shows or films I like is tentative at best, and I intrinsically don't like paying for something that I do not own.) But I saw the Blu-rays at a Best Buy for under $50, so I decided it was worth it just to plunge right into it and finally watch it.

This show is stellar! I really love all of the characters, the plot twists, and the world building/deconstruction. I do wonder if some (if not all) of the characters in this show have parallels to the show's diegetic real world. Like, is Akane Shinjo (naturally assuming that's also her real world name) basing these characters off of people she sees/knows in real life? I know that line of thinking can only be taken so far given the information the show actually presents (like, I'm pretty sure that Alexis Kerib isn't based on a real person, right?), but it's a fun idea to play around with. Shō Utsumi said something to Shinjo to the effect of "If we met like this in the real world, I think we might be friends." Now, that particular scene is a couple layers deep in "Inception"-esque layers of a false reality (a dream within a dream of sorts), but it's a fun idea that Shinjo could be using that to explore the idea of actually making friends in the real world.

There's also this sense in the show that Shinjo may not have the absolute control that she thinks she has over the city. If the characters in the show were created to, in some sense, serve very specific purposes in her world, then how is it that nothing really seems to go her way, even after all of her meddling? Again, in the dream episode, she often says something to the tune of "This is how things were supposed to be." We see Yuta arriving at Shinjo's house in the dream scene rather than Rikka's, basically reimagining the entire first episode of Yuta's arc, with Shinjo declaring that this was how things were meant to be. Yet we know that's not how things occurred in her world despite Shinjo's control. I know it's supposed to be Gridman that possibly changed the course of events in Shinjo's world, so then I must ask, what is Gridman's relationship to Shinjo's world? Is he also a part of her conscious imagination? Is he a part of her subconscious, allowing him to work below Shinjo's conscious radar? Is he a part of Shinjo's Freudian Id, fighting for dominance in her Freudian Ego? Or would Alexis Kerib be better suited as Shinjo's Freudian Id, fighting for dominance in her Freudian Ego while Gridman could be some other, more spiritual reckoning supernaturally interfering with Shinjo's internal struggle? Or am I thinking way too deeply about this show and really just feel emotionally blue-balled by the indefinite delay of Shin Eva? (I coulda watched that film about 8.5 weeks ago as of this posting, assuming a simultaneous international release.)

I think there was a theory expressed in one of ADV's interviews with the English staff (I'll have to double check that later tonight) that suggested that all of NGE was basically a false reality that Shinji Ikari created in order to deal with real-life situations. While I find that particular theory an absurd logical stretch in the context of Eva, specifically due to its obvious extra-textual nature to the show itself, it's nice to see SSSS Gridman actually having the balls to be on the same level of crazy as early-aughts-gaijin-Eva-fan-theories. (Now if it can only prove once and for all that all Gainax shows take place in the exact same universe!!!!)

Also, I saw the stuff announced so far for SSSS Dynazenon. While I agree that the characters don't quite have the same visual appeal that SSSS Gridman had (I never quite was drawn to the Bleach-looking aesthetic SSSS Dynazenon is getting really close to), the fact that it may not be a live-action TV series revolving around flesh-and-blood Shinjo struggling to adhere to the decisions she made at the of SSSS Gridman is inherently disappointing. But I'm still hopeful that I'll enjoy it, even if it doesn't meet my current expectations.
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Postby pwhodges » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:42 am

I did find the image for SSSS Dynazenon more convincing in a larger size for some reason.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:34 am

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:I don't really want to invest in streaming services.
Crunchyroll, at least, offers an ads-supported mode with no subscription required -- there are some limitations, like a very few shows are subscriber only, and there's a one week delay on airing shows -- but it's enough for the disposable entertainment level of show, and a try-before-buy on other.

There's also this sense in the show that Shinjo may not have the absolute control that she thinks she has over the city. If the characters in the show were created to, in some sense, serve very specific purposes in her world, then how is it that nothing really seems to go her way,
Assuming one can call on pre-existing Gridman lore, as parts of the series strongly hint (e.g. by Alexis referring to Rikka as a repli-compoid during the final confrontation), then the gridworld is its own thing in the same manner as the Digimon digital world; it's just that part of it has been redecorated for her.

How related Rikka is to meatspace-Akane's Licca-chan doll is probably something better left to intellectual property lawyers, though.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:35 pm

I forgot to say anything about this show.

I felt the direction and actual content of the story went in completely different directions. Visuals were great, but they were also convinced this was Evangelion when it was a pretty simple children's show.

The action scenes were great throughout, and the best episode is the one featuring the best kaiju: the one that goes insane and moves erratically during combat.

To sum up, I thought it was kinda meh, even though it started in a promising way. The action was great but imo didn't serve a larger whole.

There is no director at Trigger quite like Imaishi (and I say that as someone who loved Amemiya's contributions to Kill la Kill).
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View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:Assuming one can call on pre-existing Gridman lore, as parts of the series strongly hint (e.g. by Alexis referring to Rikka as a repli-compoid during the final confrontation), then the gridworld is its own thing in the same manner as the Digimon digital world; it's just that part of it has been redecorated for her.

I might need to refresh my memory on Gridman lore. It's been a while, and my only possible relation to it would have been the Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad version of the show that aired in the 90's. (And I don't even remember watching that show, really.)

View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:I felt the direction and actual content of the story went in completely different directions. Visuals were great, but they were also convinced this was Evangelion when it was a pretty simple children's show.

I see your point, but I don't think an attempt at "Evangelion"-esque depth and children's media should be mutually exclusive ideas. I actually think it strengthens the show. If I were a 7-year-old boy watching SSSS Gridman, I might have formed a religion around it. Of course, I say this as a 32-year-old man who may not have even seen any Gridman shows before now (outside of the Anime Expo short), so my opinion of the show is clearly the least informed in this thread.
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Postby Justacrazyguy » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:13 am

View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:
I felt the direction and actual content of the story went in completely different directions. Visuals were great, but they were also convinced this was Evangelion when it was a pretty simple children's show.


I'd like to know what children's show you're watching if this qualifies as "pretty simple".

I'm also not sure how it's trying to be Evangelion. Because it's well directed and written? Most anime wish it had visual direction and compositions this good! The Hideaki Anno influences are quite obvious, that's for sure. I do think it's much more grounded than Eva most of the time. Not nearly as many dream and abstract sequences.
It's true this anime isn't nearly as complex as evangelion, but there is some pretty dark stuff thrown in here. Akane is no Shinji, but there is plenty in her that I related with and I imagine many more people watching it. I'll be damned if I didn't have plenty of times when I wanted to create my own little world and escape all the people I disliked for the stupidest reasons.
It is, at best, a show for teenagers, and so was Eva.

I hope I'm not coming off as too confrontational. I'm rewatching this anime right now and having the children's show thing thrown at it kind of pissed me of. Bad memories of having the whole anime genre dismissed as such.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:27 am

Just leaving a message so it doesn't seem like I'm ignoring you guys (since I've been posting short answers somewhere else on the forum). This deserves a longer answer, but for now:

I don't think something being for children is bad. But in this case it honestly reminded me of misguided stories directed at kids. We have this character who you could see as a spoiled child, on a literal level is a murdering psycho, and the resolution is that friendship solves everything and everyone was there to make her happy.
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