Shinji x Kaworu shipping?

[KingXanaduu]

^

Or better yet, JUST STAY SINGLE!! You dont need no woman or man!

Love yourself Shinji, that's all you need.

I'm lying. AsuxShin forever!

[Stillborn]

Love yourself Shinji, that's all you need.

And you don't have other options anyway... :P

[Arcadia's legacy]

EoE says otherwise

[KingXanaduu]

Plus Stillborn, you missed what I REALLY think underneath.

[cunning linguist]

I ain't no queer but kawoshin is probably the only feasible romantic relationship the Shinj could have in the context of the series. Think about it. Asuka is a violent, bipolar asshole (or "tsundere" as the weebs call it) with extreme emotional issues. Rei is too socially stunted to even understand romantic love, a clone of his mom, and despite being qt probably smells like an afterbirth from those cloning tanks. Despite our collective fantasies, Misato is too old and would be a pedo. Kaworu, on the other hand, is nice, supportive, and genuinely loves Shinji for who he is and wants him to improve as a person. I think shipping is retarded in general (it doesn't matter who ends up with who, NGE isn't a romcom), but Kaworu and Shinji is the only ship that actually makes sense when you think about it. That is, unless Pen-Pen decides to play for the other team.

[Bagheera]

I ain't no queer but kawoshin is probably the only feasible romantic relationship the Shinj could have in the context of the series.

The whole losing his head thing makes that unlikely.

Think about it. Asuka is a violent, bipolar asshole (or "tsundere" as the weebs call it) with extreme emotional issues.

Asuka isn't really any of these things, and her issues weren't that extreme until Nerv threw her into the meat grinder with absolutely no support to back her up. She certainly has serious problems by the time the show's over, but prior to the descent arc she was just a talented, arrogant kid (read: teenager) with buried childhood trauma. Those are a dime a dozen in real life, so nothing particularly special there.

Rei is too socially stunted to even understand romantic love, a clone of his mom, and despite being qt probably smells like an afterbirth from those cloning tanks.

Doubtful, as she seems to bathe as regularly as everyone else. As for socially stunted, that's about Shinji's speed anyway . . .

Kaworu, on the other hand, is nice, supportive, and genuinely loves Shinji for who he is and wants him to improve as a person.

Kaworu is an Angel who lacks free will and doesn't even understand what love is. Kaworu's also the guy who consistently, regardless of continuity, utterly wrecks Shinji every time he shows up. Love is a weapon, and Kaworu uses it quite well.

I think shipping is retarded in general (it doesn't matter who ends up with who, NGE isn't a romcom), but Kaworu and Shinji is the only ship that actually makes sense when you think about it. That is, unless Pen-Pen decides to play for the other team.

When you think about it the only ship that makes sense is Shinji and Asuka, since they're the only two people left on stage at the end. I mean, the others aren't even possible at that point, so if you wanna talk about what's feasible . . .

[Arcadia's legacy]

When you think about it the only ship that makes sense is Shinji and Asuka

So shipping Misato with Kaji equates to nonsense?

[vinska]

Kawoshin is... not that good. It's cute, I love Kawoshin art, but it's still not that good.

When you think about it the only ship that makes sense is Shinji and Asuka

What? They would hurt each other in so many ways. I have NO idea why people ship Asuka X Shinji. Asuka realizing that she doesn't need validation from Shinji (or Kaji) was a pretty big part of her character... dunno why you would want to ruin that.

[pwhodges]

Asuka realizing that she doesn't need validation from Shinji (or Kaji) was a pretty big part of her character... dunno why you would want to ruin that.

You could try reading Bagheera's post-EoE fan fic Ghosts of Evangelion to get his thoughts on that.

[vinska]

Never heard of it, but I'll definitely check it out.

[Bagheera]

So shipping Misato with Kaji equates to nonsense?

If they come back from the tang, sure, they're a perfectly viable pairing. But that's not a given at the end of EoE, just a possibility. I wrote more than the part you quoted for a reason . . .

[BlueBasilisk]

I don't care much for KawoShin. If Kaworu actually was the nice but kinda weird magical bishie boyfriend he's made out to be, that'd be fine, but as Bagheera has pointed out, he's not. He's a lot of bad business wrapped up in a pretty face and a pleasant smile. Shinji's better off without that Kaworu.

[cunning linguist]

The whole losing his head thing makes that unlikely.



Asuka isn't really any of these things, and her issues weren't that extreme until Nerv threw her into the meat grinder with absolutely no support to back her up. She certainly has serious problems by the time the show's over, but prior to the descent arc she was just a talented, arrogant kid (read: teenager) with buried childhood trauma. Those are a dime a dozen in real life, so nothing particularly special there.



Doubtful, as she seems to bathe as regularly as everyone else. As for socially stunted, that's about Shinji's speed anyway . . .



Kaworu is an Angel who lacks free will and doesn't even understand what love is. Kaworu's also the guy who consistently, regardless of continuity, utterly wrecks Shinji every time he shows up. Love is a weapon, and Kaworu uses it quite well.



When you think about it the only ship that makes sense is Shinji and Asuka, since they're the only two people left on stage at the end. I mean, the others aren't even possible at that point, so if you wanna talk about what's feasible . . .

Well, technically Shinsuka is the only possible ship by EoE, but I'm talking in terms of the relationships that could theoretically exist, were they given the chance to, and whether or not those would work. As for Asuka, her childhood trauma (mom goes crazy, tries to kill Asuka, kills herself in front of her) is hardly what I would call dime a dozen. NERV made it worse, sure, but Shinji's relationship with her started after they put her in the meat grinder, so serious issues were to be had, especially into the long-term. If EoE hadn't happened, and shinsuka could continue in a normal context, I think you would find the issues getting worse and worse between them as Asuka became more unbalanced (he even strangles her in EoE). Her treatment of Shinji would also do nothing for his own mental issues.

And while Shinji is awkward, he can at least appear normal, whereas Rei can hardly understand the basics of human interaction. She might as well be an alien, plus she's a clone of his mom. Kinda freaky all around and way more so than Shinji.

Kaworu isn't perfect; like you said, he's the final angel. But he's not one-dimensionally evil like the other angels (if they could even be called evil, since we don't know their motivation), and seems to want both Shinji and humanity to survive, despite his role, allowing Shinji to kill him. It was fate, not Kaworu himself, that hurt Shinji. I agree that their relationship isn't practically feasible, but from a character standpoint, it would theoretically work the best, were Kaworu to escape his fate somehow. Shinji is more compatible with Kaworu than Rei, Asuka, or Misato, even though they could never realistically be together, and their relationship would be the least emotionally perilous. I worded it poorly before, but that was really the point I was trying to make.

At least we can agree on one thing:

SPOILER: Show

Shinji REALLY belongs with Pen-Pen

.

[cunning linguist]

The whole losing his head thing makes that unlikely.



Asuka isn't really any of these things, and her issues weren't that extreme until Nerv threw her into the meat grinder with absolutely no support to back her up. She certainly has serious problems by the time the show's over, but prior to the descent arc she was just a talented, arrogant kid (read: teenager) with buried childhood trauma. Those are a dime a dozen in real life, so nothing particularly special there.



Doubtful, as she seems to bathe as regularly as everyone else. As for socially stunted, that's about Shinji's speed anyway . . .



Kaworu is an Angel who lacks free will and doesn't even understand what love is. Kaworu's also the guy who consistently, regardless of continuity, utterly wrecks Shinji every time he shows up. Love is a weapon, and Kaworu uses it quite well.



When you think about it the only ship that makes sense is Shinji and Asuka, since they're the only two people left on stage at the end. I mean, the others aren't even possible at that point, so if you wanna talk about what's feasible . . .

Well, technically Shinsuka is the only possible ship by EoE, but I'm talking in terms of the relationships that could theoretically exist, were they given the chance to, and whether or not those would work. As for Asuka, her childhood trauma (mom goes crazy, tries to kill Asuka, kills herself in front of her) is hardly what I would call dime a dozen. NERV made it worse, sure, but Shinji's relationship with her started after they put her in the meat grinder, so serious issues were to be had, especially into the long-term. If EoE hadn't happened, and shinsuka could continue in a normal context, I think you would find the issues getting worse and worse between them as Asuka became more unbalanced (he even strangles her in EoE). Her treatment of Shinji would also do nothing for his own mental issues.

And while Shinji is awkward, he can at least appear normal, whereas Rei can hardly understand the basics of human interaction. She might as well be an alien, plus she's a clone of his mom. Kinda freaky all around and way more so than Shinji.

Kaworu isn't perfect; like you said, he's the final angel. But he's not one-dimensionally evil like the other angels (if they could even be called evil, since we don't know their motivation), and seems to want both Shinji and humanity to survive, despite his role, allowing Shinji to kill him. It was fate, not Kaworu himself, that hurt Shinji. I agree that their relationship isn't practically feasible, but from a character standpoint, it would theoretically work the best, were Kaworu to escape his fate somehow. Shinji is more compatible with Kaworu than Rei, Asuka, or Misato, even though they could never realistically be together, and their relationship would be the least emotionally perilous. I worded it poorly before, but that was really the point I was trying to make.

At least we can agree on one thing:

SPOILER: Show

Shinji REALLY belongs with Pen-Pen

.

[cunning linguist]

The whole losing his head thing makes that unlikely.



Asuka isn't really any of these things, and her issues weren't that extreme until Nerv threw her into the meat grinder with absolutely no support to back her up. She certainly has serious problems by the time the show's over, but prior to the descent arc she was just a talented, arrogant kid (read: teenager) with buried childhood trauma. Those are a dime a dozen in real life, so nothing particularly special there.



Doubtful, as she seems to bathe as regularly as everyone else. As for socially stunted, that's about Shinji's speed anyway . . .



Kaworu is an Angel who lacks free will and doesn't even understand what love is. Kaworu's also the guy who consistently, regardless of continuity, utterly wrecks Shinji every time he shows up. Love is a weapon, and Kaworu uses it quite well.



When you think about it the only ship that makes sense is Shinji and Asuka, since they're the only two people left on stage at the end. I mean, the others aren't even possible at that point, so if you wanna talk about what's feasible . . .

Well, technically Shinsuka is the only possible ship by EoE, but I'm talking in terms of the relationships that could theoretically exist, were they given the chance to, and whether or not those would work. As for Asuka, her childhood trauma (mom goes crazy, tries to kill Asuka, kills herself in front of her) is hardly what I would call dime a dozen. NERV made it worse, sure, but Shinji's relationship with her started after they put her in the meat grinder, so serious issues were to be had, especially into the long-term. If EoE hadn't happened, and shinsuka could continue in a normal context, I think you would find the issues getting worse and worse between them as Asuka became more unbalanced (he even strangles her in EoE). Her treatment of Shinji would also do nothing for his own mental issues.

And while Shinji is awkward, he can at least appear normal, whereas Rei can hardly understand the basics of human interaction. She might as well be an alien, plus she's a clone of his mom. Kinda freaky all around and way more so than Shinji.

Kaworu isn't perfect; like you said, he's the final angel. But he's not one-dimensionally evil like the other angels (if they could even be called evil, since we don't know their motivation), and seems to want both Shinji and humanity to survive, despite his role, allowing Shinji to kill him. It was fate, not Kaworu himself, that hurt Shinji. I agree that their relationship isn't practically feasible, but from a character standpoint, it would theoretically work the best, were Kaworu to escape his fate somehow. Shinji is more compatible with Kaworu than Rei, Asuka, or Misato, even though they could never realistically be together, and their relationship would be the least emotionally perilous. I worded it poorly before, but that was really the point I was trying to make.

At least we can agree on one thing:

SPOILER: Show

Shinji REALLY belongs with Pen-Pen

.

[Bagheera]

Well, technically Shinsuka is the only possible ship by EoE, but I'm talking in terms of the relationships that could theoretically exist, were they given the chance to, and whether or not those would work.

Theoretically AsuShin is the only relationship that can exist, since all of the others fail due to plot.

As for Asuka, her childhood trauma (mom goes crazy, tries to kill Asuka, kills herself in front of her) is hardly what I would call dime a dozen.

I would. There's a lot of freaky shit in the world, and crazy parents aren't all that uncommon.

NERV made it worse, sure, but Shinji's relationship with her started after they put her in the meat grinder, so serious issues were to be had, especially into the long-term.

No, Shinji met her long before she was dumped into the meat grinder. He jumped into a volcano to save her and everything!

And while Shinji is awkward, he can at least appear normal, whereas Rei can hardly understand the basics of human interaction. She might as well be an alien, plus she's a clone of his mom. Kinda freaky all around and way more so than Shinji.

Rei understands human interaction just fine. See her exchanges with Gendo, for example.

Kaworu isn't perfect; like you said, he's the final angel. But he's not one-dimensionally evil like the other angels (if they could even be called evil, since we don't know their motivation), and seems to want both Shinji and humanity to survive, despite his role, allowing Shinji to kill him. It was fate, not Kaworu himself, that hurt Shinji. I agree that their relationship isn't practically feasible, but from a character standpoint, it would theoretically work the best, were Kaworu to escape his fate somehow. Shinji is more compatible with Kaworu than Rei, Asuka, or Misato, even though they could never realistically be together, and their relationship would be the least emotionally perilous. I worded it poorly before, but that was really the point I was trying to make.

You cannot call a relationship emotionally safe when one party is coercing the other into taking actions that will be utterly self-destructive. Asuka, Rei, Misato, literally everybody else have not been demanding that of Shinji, but Kaworu has. He is the worst possible partner for Shinji regardless of continuity.

At least we can agree on one thing:

SPOILER: Show

Shinji REALLY belongs with Pen-Pen

.

No, Shinji belongs with Asuka, the one age-appropriate human available to him who isn't an alien or worse.

[silvermoonlight]

I totality ship these to there one of my favourite ships the other being Rei/Asuka.

[Tumbling Down]

Shipping Shinji with Kaworu is essentially just shipping an anime fan with their waifu.

[NONAME]

They certainly look cute together, but if you think of it, is a ship that doesn't work.

I prefer shipping Ri-chan and Misato.

[Xxx_Generic Name_Xxx]

Nah,I ship Ritsuko x Misato.