Why is Asuka so nice to Hikari?

[Chuckman]

Asuka's grief has poisoned her worldview: In the world of Asuka there is no kindness, only degrees of cruelty, even in her own compassion and affection. When she hurts you less, she loves you.

[Alaska Slim]

Asuka's grief has poisoned her worldview: In the world of Asuka there is no kindness, only degrees of cruelty, even in her own compassion and affection. When she hurts you less, she loves you.

Does that include when she avoided telling him who EVA-03s pilot was, and then attempting to tell him right before she was struck down?

... Or the playful act she put on with Misato at the hots springs?

[Bagheera]

Does that include when she avoided telling him who EVA-03s pilot was, and then attempting to tell him right before she was struck down?

... Or the playful act she put on with Misato at the hots springs?

I don't think she was being unkind with either of those, honestly. They're good examples of the fact that she actually does have empathy and isn't the horrible monster her detractors pretend she is.

Of course, that's pre-3I. Afterwards . . . well, yes. It's as Chuckman says.

[Ash1969]

I thought Slim was already agreeing with you Bagheera.

[Bagheera]

I thought Slim was already agreeing with you Bagheera.

I was more-or-less agreeing with both of them.

[PurpleandRed]

Does that include when she avoided telling him who EVA-03s pilot was, and then attempting to tell him right before she was struck down?

... Or the playful act she put on with Misato at the hots springs?

Playful act? The heck?

And I don't think she was attempting to tell Shinji about the pilot.

[Ash1969]

Playful act? The heck?

And I don't think she was attempting to tell Shinji about the pilot.

If you had watched Episode 18 you would have noticed her trying to tell him before being defeated by the 13th Angel.

[PurpleandRed]

If you had watched Episode 18 you would have noticed her trying to tell him before being defeated by the 13th Angel.

Ohhh, I thought he/she was talking about 2.0!!!!!!

[Bagheera]

Normally when we're in a Discussion thread we're talking about NGE. Discussions about the new movies go in the Rebuild forums. That doesn't mean there's never any crossover, of course, but that's how things tend to work out.

[Alaska Slim]

Ohhh, I thought he/she was talking about 2.0!!!!!!

... My profile does say "male" y'know...

And by "playful act", I was referring to the ending scene of episode 10, after Shinji saved Asuka. Asuka, likely in thanks to him for the save, offered "service" while at the hot springs by loudly exchanging words with Misato about rubbing each other's breasts.

One of the few times where *service* in the series didn't have a guilt trip attached.

[Ash1969]

Personally, I just thought were Misato and Asuka were trying to get a good laugh by messing with Shinji.

[PurpleandRed]

... My profile does say "male" y'know...

And by "playful act", I was referring to the ending scene of episode 10, after Shinji saved Asuka. Asuka, likely in thanks to him for the save, offered "service" while at the hot springs by loudly exchanging words with Misato about rubbing each other's breasts.

One of the few times where *service* in the series didn't have a guilt trip attached.

How do you know? I was thinking it was just innocent play and they weren't talking to Shinji, they were talking to each other. Are you talking about Misato being a hebephile to Asuka or Shinji? Because if you are, then why didn't anyone call the police?

[Gob Hobblin]

Because if you are, then why didn't anyone call the police?

1) Because no adult on this show has any consideration to the cares and needs of the children in a completely safe way, as all of them are either emotionally and mentally damaged themselves or simply want to use and discard the children as necessary.

2) Because the age of consent in Japan is 14.

[pwhodges]

2) Because the age of consent in Japan is 14.

Though this is over-ridden by local regulations almost everywhere.

[Reichu]

2) Because the age of consent in Japan is 14.

The Japanese Penal Code sets a minimal age of consent of 13. However, all prefectures and districts have (largely similar) "obscenity ordinances" (淫行条例) that forbid "fornication" (淫行) with anyone under 18 years of age, but exempt sex in the context of a sincere romantic relationship (typically determined by parental approval).

[Gob Hobblin]

Touche.

[Alaska Slim]

How do you know?

I don't, just a guess due to its proximity to Asuka's rescue, to the fact that both were aware that Shinji was there, and the fact neither Asuka nor Misato are particularly close to one another, implying it was done for his benefit.

The conversation between the girls moments later, right before the episode ended, was more indicative of their own relationship.

I was thinking it was just innocent play and they weren't talking to Shinji

Not to him, just loudly enough for him to hear.

, they were talking to each other. Are you talking about Misato being a hebephile to Asuka or Shinji?

... No, and I'm confused as hell as to why everyone jumped on this.


Misato's provocative actions are implied not to source from an *entirely* healthy appreciation of sex, but I categorize this sort of behavior separately from, say, the "soliciting" in episode 23.

[PurpleandRed]

1) Because no adult on this show has any consideration to the cares and needs of the children in a completely safe way, as all of them are either emotionally and mentally damaged themselves or simply want to use and discard the children as necessary.

2) Because the age of consent in Japan is 14.

That's stupid.

[Blue Three]

14 being the age of consent is cited quite often in discussions about Japan. In reality, whenever it's suggested that one might have interest in / be a relationship with someone under 18 (for example a high-school student), most people here will probably humorously respond with something along the lines of "逮捕!" (arrested!). It's not normal for adults to consider 14 years and up object of romantic or sexual interest.

Asuka, likely in thanks to him for the save, offered "service" while at the hot springs by loudly exchanging words with Misato about rubbing each other's breasts.

I have no idea where you got that from. Such dialogue isn't there at all.

I could look up a translation, but this is kinda faster.

M: "Shinji, can you hear me?" - S: "Yeah" - M: "Could you throw the body shampoo over?" A: "The one we brought ran out" - S: "OK, here it goes" - A: "Alright. Ouch! Idiot, watch where you're throwing. (more to herself) Don't hit me in strange places" - M: "Let me see" - A: *squeaks* - M:" Aww, look how pudgy and soft your skin is" - A: "Stop, it tickles" - M: "And here?" - A: "Don't touch me there" M: "Oh come on, it's nothing".

That's the entire conversation.

[Gob Hobblin]

That's stupid.

Well, it is what it is: Misato does her best, but she's an emotional wreck that's doing her best to keep it together and often forced to make decisions that are not in the best interests of the children. Kaji is focused on other things and rarely has time to devote to the kids, Ritsuko is very detached from the kids as anything other than Pilots, Fuyutsuki is doing...whatever the hell Fuyutsuki is doing. Playing his part in the game against Seele.

And Gendo? Does he give any indication that he sees the kids as anything other than a means to an end?

None of the adults on this show have the needed capacity to put this kids in a place that's safe or constructive for them, whether by choice or lack of capability.