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Postby Zeta_One » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:12 pm

I like your metaphor and I agree with your reading of the film. Though I am puzzled as to why some people are so intent on believing Shin Godzilla has some sinister agenda. Godzilla vs King Ghidorah has the more questionable "subtext" and the same individuals criticizing Shin Godzilla are eager to defend the former film.

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Postby ErgoProxy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:37 am

I can't see why call this metaphor dumb neither. It's excellent. :thumbsup:

But let me interject for a moment. I can agree, more or less, with Zeta_One till the words of:
Zeta_One wrote:imperial ambitions

Uhm, we're talking about the era when British monarchs cherished the title of emperors of India, right? And nobody grumbled it's unfair or whatnot. Also, the Japanese were just politely invited to the war by American embargo, since they were in dire need of resources to fuel their growing industry (as volcanic isles are always resource poor).

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Postby kuribo-04 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:59 am

Did not expect this from IGN, but here is a video analysis comparing the events of Shin Godzilla to the US coronavirus response.

Pretty good stuff.

https://www.ign.com/videos/how-godzilla-predicted-the-us-coronavirus-response
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:12 am

Lol.

So IGN just out here turning my Tweets into videos now. Lol.

Covid has especially gotten me to warm up to the ending of Shin Godzilla. I was originally slightly annoyed the film ended with Godzilla not destroyed but just incapacitated for the moment, ready to strike again, because I read it as a very easy in Anno left for someone to make a sequel. But now looking at things, while proper vaccination will help curb the dangers of Covid and return life to normal the virus is likely never going to 100% go away.

Good video. It's an obvious comparison once you think of it. Which really shows how avoidable most of the trauma of Covid-19 truly was.

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Postby Bagheera » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:33 pm

IMO it does a disservice to Shin Godzilla, since most of the decisions made in that film were sound. Like, failing to take out Godzilla early when doing so would kill civilians is not comparable to anything we saw last year, because the reality was always "act, and save lives, or do nothing and lie about it," with the administration consistently taking the latter route. It's true that the film depicted a bureaucracy that wouldn't get out of its own way, but it never actually turned on the country and its people the way the last administration did.

I guess what I'm saying is it's a bad comparison because Shin Godzilla was too optimistic. :sniffle:
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Postby kuribo-04 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:03 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:.
So IGN just out here turning my Tweets into videos now. Lol.

I had to think about your post too.

Covid has especially gotten me to warm up to the ending of Shin Godzilla. I was originally slightly annoyed the film ended with Godzilla not destroyed but just incapacitated for the moment, ready to strike again, because I read it as a very easy in Anno left for someone to make a sequel.

I also always thought it was just like ever returning natural disasters.
And I think Anno doesn't like tying things up completely. There's always something else to confront, like Asuka and Shinji and their uncertain future at the end of EoE.
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Postby Chroma » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:08 pm

I don't know why I waited so long to watch Shin but it was incredible. Definitely felt a little weird following the whole Coronavirus issue we've had going on, but really, disasters - natural and manmade - were an obvious focal point in the film as it was made in 2016 and it's a timeless theme as it is. Sagisu's OST was obviously fantastic, and Anno's directing/writing exactly what I wanted.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:30 pm

∆ Great to still see people discover the film. :)
Q and Shinzilla (I've seen no one else call it that but I insist)really were two masterpieces in a row IMO. Here's hoping it'll be three soon.
Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."
Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
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Postby Chroma » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:37 pm

View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:∆ Great to still see people discover the film. :)
Q and Shinzilla (I've seen no one else call it that but I insist)really were two masterpieces in a row IMO. Here's hoping it'll be three soon.


It took me a while to get around to it - I think I was always just waiting for the perfect time - but honestly, masterpiece is probably the best way to put it. And following Q, which I also adored, just makes me that much more confident that, even after Thrice, Anno will continue to make absolutely wonderful works.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:41 pm

Yeah the guy has just perfected what he does and seems to be in a good place mostly. Also is succesful which seems to be leading to creatuve freedom. I dunno when he'll retire but we can expect some good stuff until then.
Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."
Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
-Asuka: THINK IN GERMAN!!! -Shinji: Öh... Baumkuchen...
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Postby EscapismIsBad » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:28 pm

View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:∆ Great to still see people discover the film. :)
Q and Shinzilla (I've seen no one else call it that but I insist)really were two masterpieces in a row IMO. Here's hoping it'll be three soon.

Or four considering Shin Ultraman, although he's not really the director but still...
Also, Shin Goji, Shin Eva and Shin Ultraman, it's the Shin trilogy.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:32 am

∆ I had those exact thoughts haha.

Well it can still become the Shin tetralogy. Shin Kamen Rider?
Shinji: "Sooner or later I'll be betrayed... And they'll leave me. Still... I want to meet them again, because I believe my feelings at that time were real."
Ryuko: "I'm gonna knock ya on your asses!"
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Postby EscapismIsBad » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:02 pm

Ohhh, tell me more about it please, I'm genuinely interested.

Also, a bit unrelated but I seriously think Shin Godzilla may be the most famous Anno art piece EVER, even at another SIDE OF THE PLANET the little children and babies somehow know about Shin Godzilla, unfortunately they can't understand it but it has big lizard and purple laser which burn infrastructure, it's fair enough for them.
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Postby Zusuchan » Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:28 pm

I think you have a good point-Shin Godzilla might be the most internationally recognizable work by Anno. Still, I feel like overall NGE's influence and popularity in Japan and its steadily growing worldwide popularity means it's probably going to usurp Shin Godzilla's place sooner or later.

As for more "Shin" stuff by Anno, I feel that "Shin Nausicaä" (Anno adapting the Miyazaki manga, which we know he had stated an interest in) and a proper ending to Kare Kano are the two things I'm most interested in, in terms of Anno working with previously existing material. And yes, I know the Kare Kano one is pretty much a pipe dream.

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Postby EscapismIsBad » Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:13 pm

Indeed, funnily the results are the contrary in Japan, Eva is immensely more popular than Godzilla there (*cries because if Eva/Anno didn't ressurect Godzilla likely ALMOST nobody would do it in his home country*).
Khara should take some notices about EVA popularity out there, specifically South America, EVA is already popular here but isn't so mainstream as Naruto (there are frickin Naruto fanclub where even the teachers participate randomly situated at schools), Dragon Ball and such, they could earn potentially SO much money.
Sometimes some EVA references randomly appear in the TV like some otaku character reading the EVA manga or people mentioning EVA as source while talking about mental sickness in a very important test.


Higuchi and Anno (Kaworu and Shinji) single handedly revived (awakening) the tokusatsu industry (Evangelion 13) themselves.
*petrifies and is left floating adrift in space, where it will outlast Evangelion: Thrice Upon a Time 3.0+1.0, as an eternal testament that the human race existed*

Bye bye all of Evangelion and Evageeks.
When you feel sad remember that it's always epic Spinosaurus aegyptiacus time, you were born in the same planet as S. aegyptiacus, how cool is it?
I never understood why people hate the Rebuild because it's different and love the Series, can we just love it all without creating dilemmas and unnecessary discussions?
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