The accuracy of this Evangelion Timeline

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The accuracy of this Evangelion Timeline

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Postby Th3Marauder » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:59 am

http://qmisato.tumblr.com/post/97427931769

I'm not sure how many people would have seen this before, but as someone who is a big fan of being pedantic as hell about timelines in shows, it really caught my interest. A quick search on here didn't turn up that much talk about timelines (but if I just missed it and this exact topic has been talked about before, feel free to lock).

So my question is, how accurate is this timeline exactly? Also why have we always thought that EoE ends on January 1st, like why is it just a given? Is there anything in this timeline that doesn't work?

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Postby xPearse » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:11 am

That timeline seems pretty good, but for accuracy, I'm pretty sure there's a timeline in those Eva Chronicle things. Although, who knows if they're cannon or anything like that.

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Postby Atropos » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:11 am

Bleh, looks almost identical to Shadowjack's timeline—the only difference being that he moves the events of episode 24 back by one day, so the 17th Angel battle occurs on the 24th.

And, as NemZ noted in another thread, the attack on NERV can't be the day after Kaworu's death—both sides needed time to get their pieces in position.

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Postby Th3Marauder » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:19 am

View Original PostAtropos wrote:And, as NemZ noted in another thread, the attack on NERV can't be the day after Kaworu's death—both sides needed time to get their pieces in position.


... doesn't the timeline I linked show the attack on Nerv as the day after Kaworus death?

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Postby UrsusArctos » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:19 am

I'm not sure how this guy was so precise with every single date. In 2015, there are two Friday the 11ths - one being September 11, which he plugs as Israfel's date of defeat, and then there's December 11. You can check it on your computer calendars with ease - 2015 is almost here, after all.

I don't remember if we see the last row of that calendar, but if the month in question has 30 days instead of 31, he's right. Otherwise, the entire timeline could very well be shunted three months back. I don't remember where EoE being on New Years Day came from, either.
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Postby Monk Ed » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:01 am

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:I don't remember where EoE being on New Years Day came from, either.

To wit: In EoE, when Third Impact is starting, on Maya's monitor the date is displayed as 2015. But in EoTV, after 3I is underway, a telop says it is 2016. Obviously, this deduction requires a belief in at least some weak form of concurrency.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:57 pm

Thanks, Monk! It's been ages since I watched EoTV, and I'd totally forgotten about the date in it.

Okay, that gives us two points of reference - if EoTV/EoE's events happen over New Years for 2015-2016, the only correct month for Friday the 11th can be September, so it means that this timeline is correct after all.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:15 pm

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Postby Sachi » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:34 pm

However accurate the timeline may be, I wish there were more citations from the series proper to support a lot of these dates. Other than the Friday, September 11th and the New Years Eve/Day hint, are there anymore concrete details about dates within the show? Kaworu arriving Christmas Eve and dying Christmas Day may not contradict the timeline, but it sounds like fanwankery to me. God of the gaps mentality seems to be at work here.
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Postby Chuckman » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:35 pm

I'll bet you fifity bucks that the production staff never once glanced at a calendar.
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Postby StarShaper7 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:08 pm

Shinji missed Asuka's birthday?

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Postby Atropos » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:59 pm

View Original PostSachi wrote:However accurate the timeline may be, I wish there were more citations from the series proper to support a lot of these dates. Other than the Friday, September 11th and the New Years Eve/Day hint, are there anymore concrete details about dates within the show?

SJ's timeline (from which the one linked above borrows liberally) is based on the appearances of full moons etc. in the series.

God of the gaps mentality seems to be at work here.

...what?

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Postby Guy Nacks » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:13 pm

View Original PostStarShaper7 wrote:Shinji missed Asuka's birthday?

:asuka_sad:


More like Anno missed it, 'cause he prolly didn't give a fuck! The plot must go on!
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Postby Chuckman » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:14 pm

I thought the birthdays were based on the VA's birthdays and not acknowledged in universe in any way.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:29 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:I thought the birthdays were based on the VA's birthdays and not acknowledged in universe in any way.


There was a planned episode early in the development of the series to be centered around Shinji's 14th birthday, it would've been Episode 4 if I'm remembering correctly, so that would place it in the summertime, I guess. For whatever reasons, perhaps Anno wanting to flesh out Shinji's character in a different fashion, we ended up with Rain, After Running Away/Hedgehog's Dilemma and the whole birthday aspect was dropped.
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Postby pwhodges » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:44 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:I thought the birthdays were based on the VA's birthdays

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:19 pm

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:There was a planned episode early in the development of the series to be centered around Shinji's 14th birthday.

I thought Shinji was 14 during the series. His birthday is June 6, 2001.

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Postby Monk Ed » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:21 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:I thought the birthdays were based on the VA's birthdays and not acknowledged in universe in any way.

Regardless, IIRC they were not decided upon until after the show had aired.

And I too doubt they cared that they had their calendars and dates correct. This is the kind of thing that easily slips past continuity checks or even basic fact checks, for example in the Resident Evil series a particular journal entry is marked with a calendar day that doesn't even exist (a 31st of some month that has only 30 days).

Nevertheless people manage to construct credible timelines from incidental clues and it's interesting to see.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:27 pm

View Original PostNuclear Lunchbox wrote:I thought Shinji was 14 during the series. His birthday is June 6, 2001.


The episode title from the Proposal is: "14 Years, the First Day," so that seems to be an indicator that it's his 14th birthday even though earlier in the proposal it identifies Shinji's age as 14.

Gainax couldn't even keep continuity in their proposal :facepalm:
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Postby Monk Ed » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:01 am

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:Gainax couldn't even keep continuity in their proposal :facepalm:

Did the proposal actually say he starts the series as 14? Episode 4 is an early enough time for a birthday to say that he's 14 "in general" throughout the series.
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