Hey guys i aplogise if someone else has already created a topic similar to this one (i tried searching the forum for one but couldnt find it anywhere) but i felt at least someone needed to create a topic about this. Recently i was searching the web for some news about Hideaki anno out of pure boredom and came across this interesting article saying that with miyazaki retired Hideaki is the new king of Anime. I found this article rather interesting and was wondering wether all you fellow evageek users agreed with the statement. I respect Anno completely and adore all his produced works but i wouldnt ever go as far as to say that hes the king of Anime. But who knows maybe i'm wrong, so please tell me all your opinons on this below. P.s Hideaki also discussed his opinions on a live-action Eva film in the article which makes for a interesting read.
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Hideaki Anno new king of anime?
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Well, since Anime is not a recognised state, I fail to see how it could have a king.
But if we insist on imposing political terms upon an industry, Anno strikes me more as a revolutionary due to his unorthodox way of using his position to go about business.
On another note, looking at the heavy vote with you wallet philosophy* that's going on in this industry, I'd say it would be more of a democracy anyways.
tl,dr: Miyazaki is sprouting nonsense.
*(cue: manabi-line e.g. the minimum amount of sales one volume of a series must sell to not be considered a failure cue2: heavy fan-pandering on all fronts to ensure sales)
But if we insist on imposing political terms upon an industry, Anno strikes me more as a revolutionary due to his unorthodox way of using his position to go about business.
On another note, looking at the heavy vote with you wallet philosophy* that's going on in this industry, I'd say it would be more of a democracy anyways.
tl,dr: Miyazaki is sprouting nonsense.
*(cue: manabi-line e.g. the minimum amount of sales one volume of a series must sell to not be considered a failure cue2: heavy fan-pandering on all fronts to ensure sales)
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Kinda feel titles like "The King of Anime" or "The Lord of Porn" or "The Commander of Cinema" can't just be given. It's kinda dumb.
Though I will say with Hayao Miyazaki retired & Satoshi Kon dead (I guess "The Dreaming Machine" will never be finished) Anno is the only director of worth I can think of in the medium right now.
Though I will say with Hayao Miyazaki retired & Satoshi Kon dead (I guess "The Dreaming Machine" will never be finished) Anno is the only director of worth I can think of in the medium right now.
Gendo'sPapa wrote:Though I will say with Hayao Miyazaki retired & Satoshi Kon dead (I guess "The Dreaming Machine" will never be finished) Anno is the only director of worth I can think of in the medium right now.
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and Hayao Miyazaki, the King of Anime, proclaimed that upon his passing his kingdom and all rights and privileges shall be passed to the Duke of Jellyon Hideaki Anno...
is that how it goes? aha yeah, sure, when he does something new that isn't Eva we can talk.
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Slowly been moving away from anime into primarily gaming so i cant comment on the state of anime much right now but "king of anime" is a dumb title.
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Is Anno the king of anime? No. He's a fine director, though. As mentioned in the thread, being the king of anime isn't really a title that everybody's going to recognize. It's good enough just to be good at what you do, whether that be directing, VAing, or otherwise.
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Awesome responses!
Wow i am absolutely blown away by all the responses on this topic so far they are all extremely well thought out and to the point. Plus you all made valid points and i couldn't agree with all of your opinions more! 
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is that how it goes? aha yeah, sure, when he does something new that isn't Eva we can talk.
But Anno has done plenty of different things already.
I dunno, the Rebuilds are still Eva, but what matters to me is that they are good.
King of anime would imply he is better than anyone else in the industry. I never like putting one above everyone else whenthere are many talented people. He is among the best though.
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Tall order seeing as how all Miyazaki does is adapt books as fairy tales as opposed to creating new work since after the 90's. But if your definition of "new" is "I didn't think if that before" (read: ignorance and lack of foresight) then sure. We'll wait for something "new".
I thought it was a great coming of age story with a sports anime setting.
On topic: There's also Mamoru Oshii, apparently he's been doing live action lately but he still has a respectable anime filmography.
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"No you wouldn't. Oz's secret is he goes without food to buy that stuff. He hasn't eaten in years." - Brikhaus
"Often I get the feeling that deep down, your little girl is struggling with your embrace of filmfaggotry and your loldeep fixations, and the conflict that arises from such a contradiction is embodied pretty well in Kureha's character. But obviously it's not any sort of internal conflict that makes the analogy work. It's the pigtails." - Merridian
"Oh, Oz, I fear I'm losing my filmfag to the depths of Japanese pop. If only there were more films with Japanese girls in glow-in-the-dark costumes you'd be the David Bordwell of that genre." - Jimbo
"Oz, I think we need to stage an intervention and force you to watch some movies that aren't made in Japan." - Trajan
"No you wouldn't. Oz's secret is he goes without food to buy that stuff. He hasn't eaten in years." - Brikhaus
"Often I get the feeling that deep down, your little girl is struggling with your embrace of filmfaggotry and your loldeep fixations, and the conflict that arises from such a contradiction is embodied pretty well in Kureha's character. But obviously it's not any sort of internal conflict that makes the analogy work. It's the pigtails." - Merridian
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I'm obviously talking about works past Eva.
Kiki and Howl are the only Miyazakis that fall into the category of adaptations, so no, that's not all he did. My definition of "new" is simply new in something other than Eva because it's been 16 years since Kare Kano.
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As does Ponyo (The Little Mermaid) and Castle in the Sky (derivative of his own work with the Secret of Blue Water, which in turn was based on “20,00 Leagues Under the Sea”).
Even though Kare Kano is itself also an adaptation?
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