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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:47 am

So this film is without a doubt the best film that I've ever seen. /initial reaction

I don't even know how to organize my thoughts about Nolan's Interstellar; it was so profoundly enjoyable and moving that I don't quite know how to put my thoughts into words. I am not a person who cries in movie theaters. There was a sequence in Interstellar that had me silently sobbing in my seat with no real control over my emotions. I was shaking in my seat and biting down on one of my fingers to stay quiet. The actors all give incredibly moving performances. The science in Interstellar is complicated, but your enjoyment of the film isn't going to be affected by whether or not you have a degree in physics. I have countless things to say about the feel of the film, about the characters, about the plot, about the subplots-- but putting it into words is difficult for me to do in a forum post.

I don't really want to give Interstellar a score out of ten, so I'll leave it at this: Should you watch Interstellar?

Yes.

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Postby Justacrazyguy » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:55 am

It was a fun movie. I feel like they could have given more development to certain characters(you know wich ones I´m talking about) and the fifth dimension munbo jumbo was ridiculous, but the action scenes were well done, the cgi was nice looking and the final scenes were effective at ripping a few tears out if you were so inclined.

Comparsions to 2001 and Gravity are inevitable, but ignoring those two superior products, Interstellar stands nicely on it´s own.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:47 pm

Here's my initial thoughts on it from the Last Movie You Watched thread:

View Original PostI wrote:I thought Interstellar was great, better than Gravity, which honestly got a little too melodramatic in certain parts. The movie looks gorgeous and the practical effects gave be a filmboner, 'cause it just looks so damn realistic compared to the CGI that, while good, was fairly noticeable in Gravity. I really fucking felt like I was out beyond our own galaxy in some of those scenes. Hans Zimmer once again knocks it out of the park with his Phillip Glass/Koyaanisqatsi/2001-inspired score. And Matty Mac. Damn. Everything I could've hoped from him and more. I don't cry in movies, but this was the first one in I don't know how long that made me tear up a couple times. It's no 2001, but it's a legitimately great effort at a time when practical effects and attempts at good science fiction are hard to come by. It's not perfect, but it and similar efforts should be encouraged and applauded.


As an addendum, as far as the Oscars are concerned, Visual effects, sound editing, and sound mixing are a lock in my mind. Zimmer will get a nod for his score, Hoyty Hoyt might get a nom for his cinematography, and it'll get nominated (but not win) Best Picture. I honestly don't think Nolan will be nominated for Best Director, cause it would feel like too repetitive of a movie to give one for, seeing as how Cuaron won for Gravitylast year (even though I personally feel Nolan's film was better).


Justacrazyguy wrote:It was a fun movie. I feel like they could have given more development to certain characters(you know wich ones I´m talking about) and the fifth dimension munbo jumbo was ridiculous, but the action scenes were well done, the cgi was nice looking and the final scenes were effective at ripping a few tears out if you were so inclined.


To be fair, nobody knows what the fuck happens when you go through a black hole other than spaghettification, so I guess you pretty much have free artistic licence to so whatever you want until scientists prove otherwise.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:51 am

I saw it on 70MM - the only way to see it I'm guessing - & I really did enjoy every minute of it. Nolan is definitely in that flawed "I'll do whatever I want" stage of his career where he's making messterpieces. A lot of the same flaws "The Dark Knight Rises" has this film did too. But I still loved it despite all it's flaws.

Though I feel if Spielberg had actually directed it I would have been a wreck during the emotional scenes.

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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:28 am

Guess who gets to pimp the movie out on the official Japanese website

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I saw it last Friday in glorious 70mm, as is mandatory by law here in Canada. Solid movie where the few flaws don't really get in the way of enjoyment. The only big thing that seemed off to me is that despite the almost 3 hours running time...is it just me or did it seem like Nolan didn't really get to jerk off the big visual shots as much as he wanted? It felt like a lot of the big shots should have lingered a bit longer, cut a bit slower, but in the end because of trying to find some minimum plot and character and maximum run time, it was the porntastic visual shots that have been chipped away at second by second throughout the edit. Am I the only one that got that feeling?
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:54 am

I felt like it was pretty glorious as it was-- I wouldn't have gotten any additional appreciation out of it if the shots were longer, I think.

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Postby Dream » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:29 pm

I have to admit i don't know what 70mm is, so i have no idea if i watched it in said quality or not. I watched it in the theater with my family and i'm really glad i did because the theather's sound arrangement really enhanced the epic/overwhelming feel of the movie.

That's pretty much the greatest thing the film had going for it... that epic and otherworldy -almost mystical- feel to it all. While the characters were, if good, nothing notable (the pilot and daugther and their dynamic was pretty good though. Really disliked Julia Roberts's character) or the writing was rather troublesome in parts (like their horrible survival skills highlighted in the water planet. It didn't help best character was taken out first in such a stupid way) it was a very moving experience. I don't quite know why it receives as much and as widespread acclaim as it does, since it is closer to very good than it is to great or a masterpiece.

But overall, it was an incredible theather experience and an amazing sci-fi/space story. Also, no wonder the english-sounding scientist wanted the ace as their pilot. Some of the stunts he pulled were medal worthy! :lol:

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:18 pm

70mm is IMAX film. If it wasn't an IMAX theater, you probably weren't watching 70mm.

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Postby Guy Nacks » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:29 pm

It could have been an IMAX theater, but odds are if it's a newer IMAX, it's probably just a digital projection and not the true filmstock being projected.

It's comparable to the classic record vs. CD debate. Analog gets you better quality, but is more cumbersome. Digital is more versatile, yet has slightly less quality.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:01 pm

Digital actually has the better quality-- the projection won't have any film artifacts, unless you're talking about some unquantifiable form of "quality".

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Postby Blue Monday » Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:50 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:A lot of the same flaws "The Dark Knight Rises" has this film did too. But I still loved it despite all it's flaws.

QFT. Personally I felt the ending was a little too tidy story-wise whilst feeling pretty clunky at the same time in regards to pacing. Something less on the nose would've been nice but I'm not going to hold it to mark. Also, all these comparison to 2001 are a given but I feel it has more akin to Contact, which is funny because Matthew McConaughey was in that movie, too.

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:20 pm

I remember there being a description of Interstellar as being Nolan's love letter to 2001. For parts of that, it certainly makes sense-- there are definitely elements of the movie (and book!) preserved inside of Interstellar.

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Postby Joy Evangelion » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:28 am

My only real beef with the movie was the unfreezing of Matt Damon because I saw it as sort of a "hey, look at what other famous actor is in this film," moment, which I don't think the film really needed. It just felt a little kitschy to me, but this may be tied to the fact that I just don't care all that much for Matt Damon, and have trouble seeing him as earth's greatest astronaut(I am a hater, I apologize). If anyone else here shares this opinion I'd probably feel better about myself.

Also, I was watching Ken Burn's Baseball the other day and thought, "oh yea, now I remember those weird Ken Burns like interviews in Interstellar. I actually really liked those." Lo and behold, it appears some of those interviews actually were from Burns' film about the Dust Bowl, which is sort of pretty cool that someone would bring together Ken Burns and sci fi.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:44 am

I'm going to go entirely against the flow here. I went to watch the movie with my uncle and aunt and the three of us agreed that it was absolutely the stupidest, most meaningless piece of idiocy we'd seen in a very long time.

The entire plot makes absolutely zero sense and would work within Christopher Nolan's warped sense of reality. The characters are ridiculous. Space exploration? It's a total joke. Physics? On vacation. The space scenes weren't even pretty enough to be worth it (and I was hoping to see something glorious) - heck, 2001: A Space Odyssey, which came out in 1968, had vastly superior scenes of space and the lunar surface than this thing!

Idiotic plot, characters who make no sense (The pilot's daughter is a science genius but can't understand why her dad is going? Matt Damon's character is a cowardly murderous nitwit?), a setting that makes no sense (everyone's becoming a farmer, they're stealing solar cells from Indian Air Force drones, NASA magically works by itself, the Apollo landings are rewritten as a hoax...the list of idiocies goes on and on), and science that absolutely makes no sense. I am not an astronomer or a physicist by profession but I can point out just about everything that the show got wrong with science, and it goes way beyond that "future humans can create wormholes and five-dimensional spaces" nonsense.

Even the scene where the pilot meets his now-dying daughter is totally screwed up. It's portrayed as a scene just between the two of them - except that the entire family - all his descendants - are in the same room, and they're in the presence of their 125 year-old ancestor. All those grandkids, great-grandkids and great-great-grandkids are in the presence of their forefather, who has practically not aged since he left the earth...and yet they seem to vanish to let the two of them together. That is absolute nonsense. Given how emotionally charged it was (and here the actor really did a great job) when he discovered he was going to be a grandfather, or that his daughter was now the same age as he was when he left the earth...the final scene is ruined. Michael Caine's character was screwed by the plot and that Anne Hathaway was thrown into an all-too-predictable role. The Nolan brothers don't know a thing about women.

And "love is a force of the universe" thing is the stupidest, most mind-numbing garbage to ever come out of a movie set in space, ever. Idiocy to the core.

Oh, and the movie score. Hans Zimmer keeps playing the same set of bars over and over again - a trick that worked beautifully for the Joker's theme and as the dream music in Inception, but which is tired and obnoxious here, more so because the loud music distracts from the few scenes that are actually genuinely beautiful. Way to screw up and make the trainwreck complete.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:38 am

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:stupidest, most meaningless piece of idiocy

ridiculous. It's a total joke. On vacation. weren't even pretty

Idiotic idiocies. nonsense.

totally screwed up. nonsense. ruined. don't know a thing.

stupidest, most mind-numbing garbage to ever come out of a movie set in space, ever. Idiocy to the core.


Oh, well.

Really? Are you seriously suggesting that this movie belongs in the Armageddon category? I don't think Interstellar was a perfect movie by any means, but your review just makes it sound you were actively trying to hate it and being overly nitpicky.

The thing that matters the most is, in an era with big, dumb action movies, movies like this are valuable because they at least try to be smarter, and try to be more restrained and try to be something more than just a commercial product and I think it has to be respected for that.

Also, if you go into a movie expecting physics to be completely factual, even if they have physicists in the credited crew:

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If you were watching a documentary, on the other hand, I'd say that your frustration is warranted because the purpose of a documentary is to inform and entertain.

There is something to be said for having high expectations and wanting a movie to do well, but there's also something to be said for just being able to enjoy the experience.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:30 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:I'm going to go entirely against the flow here. I went to watch the movie with my uncle and aunt and the three of us agreed that it was absolutely the stupidest, most meaningless piece of idiocy we'd seen in a very long time. [snip]

...ouch. I suppose I can understand why you didn't enjoy it-- I mean, not everything is for everyone... but given how much it contrasts with my own views on the matter, it's pretty jarring to read something from someone who totally hated the movie. Seems we practically disagree about every facet of the film.

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Postby UrsusArctos » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:32 pm

I'm not actively trying to hate it - the experience I had was an incredibly bad one. Heck, Mockingjay Part I, which, by this metric, should be the "low-brow" movie, was far more enjoyable in comparison, and if you ask me which movie was "deeper", I'd say "Mockingjay" without a second thought.

Unfortunately, this movie isn't even valuable for trying. Big, dumb action movies may be dumb but they don't have the pretense of being anything else. This movie was as dumb as or dumber than most big, dumb, action movies and it came about with the pretense of being grand and philosophical, and that is why it is so low.

Perhaps I'll write a cooler, more detailed response about why I hated this movie later, just to make it clear what I found so wrong about it. Right now I'm still pretty raw from the disappointment of it all.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:36 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:Heck, Mockingjay Part I, which, by this metric, should be the "low-brow" movie, was far more enjoyable in comparison, and if you ask me which movie was "deeper", I'd say "Mockingjay" without a second thought.

Double ouch. Mockingjay more enjoyable than Interstellar? That's something that I don't think I'll ever be able to get behind-- although it helps that Interstellar practically felt like it was made for me, so I assume that my firm stance in the pro-Interstellar camp has a lot to do with my personal taste. I love Zimmer, I love Nolan, I love sci-fi (particularly space sci-fi, in this case) and I'm a huge fan of time dilation and the other science discussed in the film.

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Postby Guy Nacks » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:39 pm

I'm still at a loss over how one can hate the movie that much. Why so serious?

As a side note, I did enjoy Mockingjay I more than Interstellar for character moments, but Interstellar had the grander overall spectacle, probably because, like Nuke, I like space sci-fi..

Although, that scene where Matty Mac watches all the 20 years of vids from his kids was fucking heartbreaking.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:42 pm

Yup. I mentioned in the first post that there was a sequence I was silently sobbing at-- didn't name the specifics to avoid spoiling anybody. I was shaking in my seat during that scene. Couldn't help it.


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